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College Football 2015-16: The Big Ten Rises

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Being a Stanford fan, of course I'm biased. I agree, though, it came down to who had the ball last. And a timely facemask certainly helped things out.

In addition to beating USC, we will need a loss by Alabama or Clemson. Then it really comes down to how much conference championships matter. The committee has said it is a major factor, but the sample size is too small to know how major. Last year, the favored teams won their conferences, so we never got a glimpse of how much it matters (other than the Big12 being left out for not having a CCG). This year, if Clemson were to lose, would a 11-2 teams with a CC beat a 12-1 without one? I hope so, but again I'm biased.

I would also make a point about which is more impressive, getting through Stanford's schedule with only 2 losses, or Oklahoma's with only 1? One schedule has you opening and closing with top-12 OOC opponents and a tough conference schedule; the other allows you to avoid any real games until the last month of the year. Again, I'm biased.

Also, I'll leave this: the Pac12 and SEC both ended up with 10 >=6-win teams. Of course, the Pac12 did it with two fewer teams and an additional conference game.
 
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Coaches

1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. Iowa
4. OU

5. MSU
6. OSU

AP is the same, but flip Iowa and OU.

Pairwise
1. MSU
2. Iowa
3. Clemson
4. ND

5. Bama
6. OU

ND, Bama, and OU are seperated by a mere .0004 in the RPI. Bama will jump ND with a win, and I don't know for sure if this is true, but I think Baylor over Texas and Houston over Temple would drop ND enough for OU to pass them too. However, the big issue is going to be if MSU or Iowa drop enough. MSU has a huge SOS advantage over other teams, and playing an undefeated certainly won't change that. Iowa lags behind the rest of the contenders, but their SOS will get a boost that may keep them in it.
 
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Composite has:
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Clemson
4. Ohio State

5. Michigan State
6. Stanford
7. Iowa
8. Notre Dame
 
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Super excited for Indy. With this being a de facto Playoff game, the atmosphere should be really cool.
 
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French Rage said:
...In addition to beating USC, we will need a loss by Alabama or Clemson. Then it really comes down to how much conference championships matter. The committee has said it is a major factor, but the sample size is too small to know how major. Last year, the favored teams won their conferences, so we never got a glimpse of how much it matters (other than the Big12 being left out for not having a CCG). This year, if Clemson were to lose, would a 11-2 teams with a CC beat a 12-1 without one? I hope so, but again I'm biased...
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Agree with all of that.

In the both two team BCS format, and the current four team format, the playoff field is very small. As such, the regular season and the CCGs have to stand in the place of early round playoffs. That being the case, a lot of weight should be put on the CCGs. For the same reason, intra-league rematches should be strongly disfavored.

The playoffs should be national in character, pitting the various conferences against each other. If you allow CCG losers into the 4 team field, the likely outcome is that a certain number of "quarterfinal losers" will be given a second chance, denying another team/conference the opportunity to keep winning on the field. Similarly, if you lose a key November game, my opinion is that you shouldn't be granted a rematch in the context of a four team tournament, absent truly extraordinary circumstances.

Obviously a different set of priorities might benefit the 2015 Buckeyes. But I'm sticking with my long-held opinion, as described above.
 
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8. Notre Dame
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Which means an NY6. I am well satisfied. Fiesta Bowl against either Iowa or Houston according to 247Sports, although I do not know whether they are reputable.

I'd love to play Iowa -- we haven't played since 1968 and I have always kinda liked Iowa.
 
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Stanford one spot behind ohio state. I think the committee still has room to elevate them anove ohio state provided they beat usc. Ohio state is done playing where as stanford can make another statement against a solid team on a neutral field.
 
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Which means an NY6. I am well satisfied. Fiesta Bowl against either Iowa or Houston according to 247Sports, although I do not know whether they are reputable.

I'd love to play Iowa -- we haven't played since 1968 and I have always kinda liked Iowa.
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We? Does eLynah know?
 
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I have to root for Iowa for the rest of the season. My cousin goes there, and with my immediate family history I simply can't root for MSU. :)

But, I expect Sparty (wears a dress!) to make quick work of the Hawkeyes, and my cousin will, hopefully, get to go to the Rose Bowl and march in the parade with the Iowa band. Pretty good for a sophomore.
 
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J.D. said:
Stanford one spot behind ohio state. I think the committee still has room to elevate them anove ohio state provided they beat usc. Ohio state is done playing where as stanford can make another statement against a solid team on a neutral field.
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Pretty much. At this point, Stanford does not have a conference championship, so they can't pretend like they do. If they (HOPEFULLY) win, they will, and that should give them the edge, similar to how it helped OSU last year.

In the meantime, Go Florida/UNC!
 
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538 was saying the Stanford vs Ohio State was about 50/50 on who to take if Stanford does win the Pac 12. So it'll be interesting to see where the committee goes if it comes to that.
 
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The rules explicitly say a conference champion goes first unless a lower team is "significantly" better. I don't see Stanford not passing OSU next week.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
538 was saying the Stanford vs Ohio State was about 50/50 on who to take if Stanford does win the Pac 12. So it'll be interesting to see where the committee goes if it comes to that.
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I think if its close between the two, the committee will give the nod to Stanford if nothing more than to give the Big Twelve more of a reason to add a couple of teams so that they can have a conference Championship game. Plus, it would also has the added bonus that if Norte Dame really wants to make the playoffs, they need to join a conference.
 
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The rules explicitly say a conference champion goes first unless a lower team is "significantly" better. I don't see Stanford not passing OSU next week.
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OSU is significantly better based on what? Their 1-1 record against teams with pulses?
 
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Take another look at bronconick's post. I read him as saying the same thing as you, me and everyone else: If Stanford wins their CCG, they'll jump ahead of idle OSU.
 
Kepler said:
Which means an NY6. I am well satisfied. Fiesta Bowl against either Iowa or Houston according to 247Sports, although I do not know whether they are reputable.

I'd love to play Iowa -- we haven't played since 1968 and I have always kinda liked Iowa.
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If Iowa loses Saturday and doesn't get the trip to Pasadena, I'd love to play Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. Sounds like a blast.
 
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I have to root for Iowa for the rest of the season. My cousin goes there, and with my immediate family history I simply can't root for MSU. :)

But, I expect Sparty (wears a dress!) to make quick work of the Hawkeyes, and my cousin will, hopefully, get to go to the Rose Bowl and march in the parade with the Iowa band. Pretty good for a sophomore.
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Welcome aboard!:p Curious, what leads you to think it won't be a good game?
 
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