College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

[Hammer]

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Wow. So what do you do with VT in the polls now? I don't think I'd move them down at all.

Well, they're going to drop a couple spots due to the loss, but I don't think they're going much past 13.

 

[Biddco]

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Great game. I have found a team to root for this year!

 

[komey1]

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What is more impressing is that Boise St won WITHOUT going to trick plays. The coach's gotta pay attention now.

 

[Dirty]

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Great game. I have found a team to root for this year!

You didn't know about them before? Every day you become biddier and biddier.

 

[pirate]

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Looking at the uniforms last night, they reminded me of the uniforms seen in movies like Any Given Sunday and/or some of those futuristic movies like Rollerball.

Like looking at concept cars, they look strange/ugly the first time you see them and after a while they grow on you.

I thought they both were ok. Reminds me of soccer where the teams frequently have annual jerseys with new colors etc. They sold more merchandise. That is the point, isn't it??

 

[alfablue]

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For those of you who are jumping on the Boise State Bandwagon, one quick reminder.

Remember when they played the "nobody wants to play us" card? B12 schools would not do a home/home exchange, but would be happy to host BSU? And everyone thought BSU was getting the short end?

Don't forget that Boise is now doing that against their RIVAL. Not just some small school in the middle of nowhere, but their #1 Rival for the past 40 years. They do not want to come back up to Moscow to play Idaho once they move to the MWC.

These guys are major league hypocrates. Worse, if you ask me- since they are ready to turn their back on their main rival for monetary reasons.

(For a while I wasn't rooting so much for/against them, until I saw what happened this past off season)

 

[JF_Gophers]

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For those of you who are jumping on the Boise State Bandwagon, one quick reminder.

Remember when they played the "nobody wants to play us" card? B12 schools would not do a home/home exchange, but would be happy to host BSU? And everyone thought BSU was getting the short end?

Don't forget that Boise is now doing that against their RIVAL. Not just some small school in the middle of nowhere, but their #1 Rival for the past 40 years. They do not want to come back up to Moscow to play Idaho once they move to the MWC.

These guys are major league hypocrates. Worse, if you ask me- since they are ready to turn their back on their main rival for monetary reasons.

(For a while I wasn't rooting so much for/against them, until I saw what happened this past off season)

Pretty sure this was already brought up awhile back. I think the feeling was that, for awhile at least, they need to be more picky about who they play as they move from being a small team to large team. Once they have established the ability to get big games they can go back to playing Idaho.

Its not hypocracy, its trying to fix your schedule when you play in a crap conference. It has little to do with Idaho and everything to do with the broken BCS system.

They already are wasting 8 out of 11/12 games a year on bad teams, why would they purposely schedule another and give the system more chance to screw them over? BCS conference schools do not have the same excuse as they are 1) AQ teams and 2) generally have 8 quality games a year.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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For those of you who are jumping on the Boise State Bandwagon, one quick reminder.

Remember when they played the "nobody wants to play us" card? B12 schools would not do a home/home exchange, but would be happy to host BSU? And everyone thought BSU was getting the short end?

Don't forget that Boise is now doing that against their RIVAL. Not just some small school in the middle of nowhere, but their #1 Rival for the past 40 years. They do not want to come back up to Moscow to play Idaho once they move to the MWC.

These guys are major league hypocrates. Worse, if you ask me- since they are ready to turn their back on their main rival for monetary reasons.

(For a while I wasn't rooting so much for/against them, until I saw what happened this past off season)

aaaannnnnnddd, I don't care.

 

[alfablue]

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Pretty sure this was already brought up awhile back. I think the feeling was that, for awhile at least, they need to be more picky about who they play as they move from being a small team to large team. Once they have established the ability to get big games they can go back to playing Idaho.

Its not hypocracy, its trying to fix your schedule when you play in a crap conference. It has little to do with Idaho and everything to do with the broken BCS system.

They already are wasting 8 out of 11/12 games a year on bad teams, why would they purposely schedule another and give the system more chance to screw them over? BCS conference schools do not have the same excuse as they are 1) AQ teams and 2) generally have 8 quality games a year.

So it's ok that money is more important, then.

It is hypocracy to whine and cry to the media when some teams do that to you, and then you do it to teams you've been playing for 40 years.

Alas- it's all about money. Making sure Florida and Texas can have perfect records, and that appearences give BSU a chance of being relevant.

(and yes, I brought it up before)

 

[WeWantMore]

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So it's ok that money is more important, then.

It is hypocracy to whine and cry to the media when some teams do that to you, and then you do it to teams you've been playing for 40 years.

Alas- it's all about money. Making sure Florida and Texas can have perfect records, and that appearences give BSU a chance of being relevant.

(and yes, I brought it up before)

I see it as two different scenarios though. "Big" teams duck Boise because they're afraid of losing, I don't think Boise is ducking Idaho for the same reason.

It would be different in my opinion if the Vandals suddenly became a top 25 team and BSU started ducking them.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Pretty sure this was already brought up awhile back. I think the feeling was that, for awhile at least, they need to be more picky about who they play as they move from being a small team to large team. Once they have established the ability to get big games they can go back to playing Idaho.

It has little to do with Idaho and everything to do with the broken BCS system.

Knockout blow in this argument. Given the overall crappiness of the WAC (and then the MWC) compared to the "bigger" conferences, Boise State can't be wasting their non-conference games on teams that aren't going to help them reach the title game, even if it means having to give up a rivalry game. They've twice gone undefeated without even having the opportunity to play for a national championship. If Frank Beamer were as big of a pansy as most of the other big school coaches, this year would have been a good chance at being number three, it still could be number three in the end.

 

[unofan]

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Remember when they played the "nobody wants to play us" card? B12 schools would not do a home/home exchange, but would be happy to host BSU? And everyone thought BSU was getting the short end?

Which isn't entirely true, either.

Nebraska would have accepted a home and home, but Boise State wanted 1)a buy game and 2)$1million+ for doing so because that'd make them more money than they'd get from a home game. Nebraska balked at the million dollar price tag, not the game itself.

 

[pirate]

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at the end of the day it is about money and BCS points...schools have had to give up a lot of rivalry games to succeed in today's ncaa...in isolation those decisions look to be cold and calculated...which means it is business, not personal...it sucks when PSU and Pitt stop playing, LSU drops Tulane etc. but to build the facilities, expand stadiums and pay coaches the decisions have to be about maximizing revenue, maintaining the BCS points and figuring out a balanced schedule and less about tradition and mutual benefit

 

[bigmrg74]

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I was hoping they were throwbacks to 1975 when NMU beat Boise in the D-II Title game

Wasn't the runner-up that year Western Kentucky?

Yeah, you're right. We beat Boise sometime. The ball is in the dome "Hall of Fame" Im getting my D-II to D-I schools confused.

Edit...NCAA Quarter Final...NMU beat Boise

Boise State never made it to the D2 championship game.

 

[RaceBoarder]

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Reggie Bush will have the Heisman Trophy recalled later this month...

How does this retroactive stuff prove anything to a player/team??? I highly doubt that Reggie gives a flip about what he did at USC...

 

[bronconick]

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Knockout blow in this argument. Given the overall crappiness of the WAC (and then the MWC) compared to the "bigger" conferences, Boise State can't be wasting their non-conference games on teams that aren't going to help them reach the title game, even if it means having to give up a rivalry game. They've twice gone undefeated without even having the opportunity to play for a national championship. If Frank Beamer were as big of a pansy as most of the other big school coaches, this year would have been a good chance at being number three, it still could be number three in the end.

They haven't played for a national championship because their non-conference schedule is usually something that a Big Ten team would put together. This year they've got Toledo and Wyoming in addition to Oregon State and Virginia Tech. Last year was Oregon, two MAC schools and a 1-AA. 2008- 1-AA, Southern Miss, Oregon, BGSU. 2007- 1-AA, Southern Miss, BGSU, Washington. Then they play New Mexico State, Louisiana Tech, and Nevada instead of Iowa, Penn State and Wisconsin, and wonder why they're left out? Really?

1, maybe 2 tough games, and 10 that you're favored by 4 touchdowns. Nice gig if you can get it.

 

[MaizeRage]

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1, maybe 2 tough games, and 10 that you're favored by 4 touchdowns. Nice gig if you can get it.

And yet Pete Carroll failed at that almost every year.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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And yet Pete Carroll failed at that almost every year.

He was still good enough to humiliate the best of the Big 10 on a regular basis.

 

[MaizeRage]

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He was still good enough to humiliate the best of the Big 10 on a regular basis.

That's the thing. His problem wasn't the one, maybe two tough games. His problem was that he was a ****ty coach that would rather scheme up his next prank to pull in practice than actually practice and he'd blow it against some joke of a team they should have beaten by four touchdowns.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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That's the thing. His problem wasn't the one, maybe two tough games. His problem was that he was a ****ty coach that would rather scheme up his next prank to pull in practice than actually practice and he'd blow it against some joke of a team they should have beaten by four touchdowns.

Some of those "joke" losses are inflated in hind sight. A number of them, including at least 2 to Oregon State, came up against teams that went 9-4 and finished in the top 25 and that loss usually came on the road in hostile environment. The only truly horrific loss I can recall the Stanford debacle at the Coliseum in the year of the upset.