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Colgate offseason speculations

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why do we continue to punish the team with this Cape Cod deal year-after-year...one time, fine...two times, OK...three times...can it (unless we are getting some decent feedback on recruiting outreach)...this year's scheduling makes the game even more questionable...only see three incoming for 2013 and it's getting somewhat late...haven't calculated how many seniors we will lose this year and I know, with adjustments, we can only bring in a like number of frosh (self-imposed disadvantage)...only 2 1/2 months to go...
 
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BTW, we have EIGHT seniors on the team and, unless I'm missing something, 3 incoming for 2013...in light of today's recruiting process this appears rather distressing...if anyone can add some info here I'd love to hear it...
 
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BTW, we have EIGHT seniors on the team and, unless I'm missing something, 3 incoming for 2013...in light of today's recruiting process this appears rather distressing...if anyone can add some info here I'd love to hear it...

Remember Colgate headed into the off-season with four players for 2013-2014. However, Darcy Murphy was bumped up a year due to Chris Wagner's departure. So then you have three - two of which are d-men and one is a forward. The two d-men should be solid, I don't really know a lot about the forward.

Generally speaking, it seems that Colgate has done most of its recruiting and offering during junior hockey season - when the coaches that go recruit can actually see the kids play in league games. For the most part, the current incoming class and the one before that were committed at some point during the 09-10 and 10-11 seasons. So, I would assume that we'll see things pick up once we get to September. Latest recruit I've seen signed play the following year was Daniel Gentzler. I think Gudge committed during the Union playoff series and then was on the ice come October. There's a guy that with the proper development, should be a solid third or fourth line checking forward that brings energy.

In terms of what will have to be replaced from the upcoming senior class, you're looking at four d-men and four forwards. Currently of the three commits listed on Heisenberg, two are d-men and one is a forward. The numbers may shift around depending on what the coaches want to do. I would think a goaltender may be added into the mix as someone that will compete with Finney for minutes after Mihalik graduates. It never hurts to have too many goaltenders - just look at last year. The numbers issue could be a factor in a few years with just two current juniors on the roster (McCann, Mihalik).
 
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as always appreciate Gate Radio's input, especially in July...the one question (and concern) I have is: if we need three additional forwards for 2013 how many good ones out there are left??? The same could be said for the requirement for 2 d-men...as we all know MOST of the quality kids are locked up a lot earlier than the beginning of their last year in secondary school...BTW Roach has flown the coop as of 7/31...
 
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as always appreciate Gate Radio's input, especially in July...the one question (and concern) I have is: if we need three additional forwards for 2013 how many good ones out there are left??? The same could be said for the requirement for 2 d-men...as we all know MOST of the quality kids are locked up a lot earlier than the beginning of their last year in secondary school...BTW Roach has flown the coop as of 7/31...

One has to wonder how the shake-up in the athletic department will effect the funding push for a new ice hockey facility that would also have locker room space for several other teams.

As for who's left? It's hard to say. I think the natural inclination is to go out and lock up guys early if they show promise since that's what everyone else is doing. What then happens when you get a player like Kevin Roy from Brown commits early and then has a boffo season in the USHL and now likely will go to BC/BU or Major Junior? That's a risk you of course. But, Colgate is in a unique spot where if they gamble on someone and they are wrong, they essentially have to eat the scholarship and/or roster spot for four years. So, the coaches have to show a little caution in going after someone with reckless abandon. My guess is that there are certainly players that are targets right now that will get offers once they get one more look or have a chance to visit campus come August-September.

With the incoming group combined with last year's class, you have a very solid base for the next 3-4 years that will consist of the Spink twins, Lidgett, Wilson, Borkowski, Murphy and Baun in no particular order up front and then Goulakos, Johnston and Lough at least on the back end. Plus Eric Mihalik still has two years left. So, honestly in my view, that's your main nucleus. Ideally by the time they graduate, they will be playing in a new facility but that's another subject for another time.

So then you have to look at how to build around that. On paper, up front you have a team that can skate very well and has good quickness. Lidgett got better as last year went along - mostly because he started the season at 18 and Wilson turned in a tremendous season playing alongside two pros that will be in the AHL this season. If the recruiting class pans out - and from talking to DV, he's very high on it - then you're looking at a team with good speed that has players that can skate well and finish. A lot like the team from last year. The d-group will be younger in the coming years (not this year) so that could be an issue moving forward depending on how strong the incoming players are.

Really, looking ahead at this year and years to come, Colgate needs to find those gritty, diamond-in-the-rough type players exactly like a Tyler Burton or a Burton with a little more size. Players that will go to the net, muck in the corners and score ugly goals. There weren't a lot of those last year. And I think you'll need size along the lines of a Firman-Prockow-Gillanders-Winchester-Huculak that will give the smaller guys time and space to operate. Firman and Prockow did that well last year for Mayer when the team was winning.

On a side note, great photo gallery at Radio Free Hamilton from the Terry Slater golf tournament this past weekend.
 
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Dammit....GR you got my juices flowing for this team, It's way too early, even for me (LOL). Great reporting !
 
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thanks Gate Radio...as always, objective and informative...for those of us who bleed maroon, especially in hockey, you've been a real blessing to us and to the program...
 
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Can not wait for the season to get started. Although the Olympics have been a pleasure to watch.

I just saw that Don has been promoted to Associate Athletic Director. G R, any insight as to what this is about and how it will affect his coaching time?
 
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Can not wait for the season to get started. Although the Olympics have been a pleasure to watch.

I just saw that Don has been promoted to Associate Athletic Director. G R, any insight as to what this is about and how it will affect his coaching time?

I don't think it will have much of an impact if any. Don's been an assistant AD as long as I can remember and that to my knowledge has never impeded coaching time or off-ice tasks. If anything, he may delegate some more responsibilities to his assistants. Both have been around long enough to where there should be no drop off.
 
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Off topic: My computer died and I cannot find the Colgate athletic voy discussion forum on Google. Does anyone here know the website address for that and could you pass it along the link to me via this board? I'd be much appreciative.

Sorry to bust into the hockey talk.....:o

Thanks much.
 
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agree...who WERE the bozos who came up with the Atlantic City experiment?...been there, was frankly quite sad...love Lake Placid - if only we could win ONE semi-final game before I go to a better place...
 
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While I like the move back to LP, what housing (motels, inns, B&B's) are available up there? Are they usually booked early? Anyone have experience spending a few days in March in the hinterland?
 
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While I like the move back to LP, what housing (motels, inns, B&B's) are available up there? Are they usually booked early? Anyone have experience spending a few days in March in the hinterland?
There are a plethora of options for lodging at any price point. As you might expect, the pricier hotels (Crowne Plaza, Golden Arrow, Mirror Lake Inn) are located right along Main Street / on Mirror Lake and are closest to the rink. But there are several affordable options -independents, chains, B&Bs - along Saranac Ave. and the sidestreets on either end of town. A good place to start: http://www.lakeplacid.com/stay
 
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I continue to monitor the Heisenberg list for 2013 and, God forbid, 2014 'Gate recruits...NONE...and I do see continuous commitments throughout the summer to other programs - including those that already have a bevy of young men entering in September, 2013 and September, 2014...I've heard the "rationales", but I remain focused on what virtually EVER OTHER DIVISION I program in the country is doing...to repeat, we have three recruits committed for 2013 with eight seniors graduating...I pray we are on the cusp of bringing in a solid class for 9/2013, but again I ask, is the real talent already gone...to suggest that we are searching for a "perfect fit" fourth liner suggests more about our recruiting reach than our effort to remain ECAC competitive...DV's a very good on-ice coach, but we desperately need a constant infusion of depth. I've said this for SIX years: we have high, high levels of Line #1 talent, yet our depth, especially at forward, is very questionable...
 
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New thread coming soon ! Football next week....I'm going!

Biddle says "I've got a great QB, offensive line should be better, all receivers back too. Look for McCord to have a big year !! Defense needs improvement badly . We were terrible last year.

Nate Eachus was 10-98 yards last night for KC with a touchdown !!!!
 
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