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Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

Kurt and I were talking about it on the air last night after the game, don't know if you heard it. Maybe the powers that be should look at the rule and institute something to discourage what happened after the game, where if you take something other than a 2 minute penalty within the last minute or so, when the game is clearly over, that it should be an automatic DQ for the next game. Giving a penalty after the game has ended and there is no consequence doesn't do anything to discourage those type of hits. If you want to try to make the game safer, this could be a start.
 
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The whole game is posted - First two periods are first, and the third period is listed second. Hit is around 44mins.
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

jericho said:
Kurt and I were talking about it on the air last night after the game, don't know if you heard it. Maybe the powers that be should look at the rule and institute something to discourage what happened after the game, where if you take something other than a 2 minute penalty within the last minute or so, when the game is clearly over, that it should be an automatic DQ for the next game. Giving a penalty after the game has ended and there is no consequence doesn't do anything to discourage those type of hits. If you want to try to make the game safer, this could be a start.
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One thing I did hear was Kurt's views about post-game review. According to the rules, you are allowed to do that in determining between a game misconduct and disqualification, however since the box score does not show a misconduct, there's no review in place.

CJ Lee hits a player even lighter at Colgate two years ago in OT, he gets a game DQ. Erik B gives a board at the end of the Cornell game four years ago, get s a game DQ and two game suspension. Colgate player hits it, I bet the league is cheering the hit because after all, it screws over RPI. Heck, I bet Ritchie gets sacked for even calling he five minute major, and he's one of the better refs in the league.
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

mackek2 said:
The whole game is posted - First two periods are first, and the third period is listed second. Hit is around 44mins.
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Just rewatched it - looked like Larkin elbowed Haggerty as he was falling down from the hard hit. Also saw the missed call at about 1:00 remaining when Lee got elbowed. Games with referees as bad as last night are just frustrating. If I feel like the game was frustrating, unfair to both teams, and disappointing as a fan, I can't imagine how much it must frustrate the players. And frustrated players leads to the kind of dangerous hits we saw. I really wish the refereeing in this league would get their act together.
 
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RKarger said:
Just rewatched it - looked like Larkin elbowed Haggerty as he was falling down from the hard hit. Also saw the missed call at about 1:00 remaining when Lee got elbowed. Games with referees as bad as last night are just frustrating. If I feel like the game was frustrating, unfair to both teams, and disappointing as a fan, I can't imagine how much it must frustrate the players. And frustrated players leads to the kind of dangerous hits we saw. I really wish the refereeing in this league would get their act together.
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I bet we see Hicks and Murphy tonight, Cornell gets 15 power plays and we get 0.
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

AspyDad said:
Bravo but when is Paul Stewart ever going to be accountable for the way these games are officiated. Paul, I challenge you to a debate on the Wyland show. I'll even let Schottsie be the moderator.
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the only reason I put Hagwell's info there and not Stewie's is because he can't police himself. BTW, I did get a response from Hagwell.......the hit in question will be reviewed today & if needed further disciplinary action is warranted it will be.
 
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turk181 said:
the only reason I put Hagwell's info there and not Stewie's is because he can't police himself. BTW, I did get a response from Hagwell.......the hit in question will be reviewed today & if needed further disciplinary action is warranted it will be.
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As much as we can crow about the lack of consistency, at least they're taking a look at it, and that is something I'm sure we can all expect. Whether or not action comes from the league is up to them.

I'm actually very impressed with Mr. Hagwell's responsiveness regarding our e-mail questions.
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

turk181 said:
interesting that Cornell's John McCarron recieved a game DQ (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2012-13/boxscores/20130105_ni8l.xml) in the last Cornell game before playing Union last night yet he played last night. Perhaps you remember Fat Mike in the video after the Cornell game whining about it.....
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There is a discrepancy. According to the box score on CHS http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/mcorden1.j05 , Rodger Craig was issued the disqualification penalty in question, not John McCarron. Rodger Craig served the suspension last night by virtue that he did not dress for the game.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
There is a discrepancy. According to the box score on CHS http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/mcorden1.j05 , Rodger Craig was issued the disqualification penalty in question, not John McCarron. Rodger Craig served the suspension last night by virtue that he did not dress for the game.
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discrepancy or Fat Mike convincing someone, no.... it wasn't one of our major players it was Craig. Who BTW, has been a scratch for 7 of Cornells 16 games....hmmmmmmm?
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

turk181 said:
discrepancy or Fat Mike convincing someone, no.... it wasn't one of our major players it was Craig. Who BTW, has been a scratch for 7 of Cornells 16 games....hmmmmmmm?
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I just call them as I read them. Whether or not it's a grand conspiracy, I have no comment.
 
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how offsides was cornell second goal? not enough? and a blown icing call brings the faceoff back to center ice. Can we give them more breaks? Great win . Great weekend. One game at a time
 
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Havasu M said:
how offsides was cornell second goal? not enough? and a blown icing call brings the faceoff back to center ice. Can we give them more breaks? Great win . Great weekend. One game at a time
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They don't ask how, they ask how many. Four. As in number of points we got this weekend.
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

Havasu M said:
how offsides was cornell second goal? not enough? and a blown icing call brings the faceoff back to center ice. Can we give them more breaks? Great win . Great weekend. One game at a time
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We beat a good Cornell team and we a beat a team of officials that were hopefully merely incompetent. (I really would not like to think they were morre than that)
 
Re: Colgate & Cornell @ RPI & Union (1/18, 1/19)

DrDemento said:
We beat a good Cornell team and we a beat a team of officials that were hopefully merely incompetent. (I really would not like to think they were morre than that)
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Doc,IMO the officials were very good tonight. The linesmen made 2 big mistakes late when it matters most but overall I thought the refs were very fair.
The thing I noticed most is that RPI was willing/able to match cornells intensity along the wall which is no easy task .In all honesty that hasn`t happened at the field house vs cornell in a long time. Kasdorf was excellent and special teams were very good. A very encouraging weekend.
 
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jstadts said:
Doc,IMO the officials were very good tonight. The linesmen made 2 big mistakes late when it matters most but overall I thought the refs were very fair.
The thing I noticed most is that RPI was willing/able to match cornells intensity along the wall which is no easy task .In all honesty that hasn`t happened at the field house vs cornell in a long time. Kasdorf was excellent and special teams were very good. A very encouraging weekend.
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They may have screwed up the icing, but they didn't screw up the offsides. I looked at the tape, and the Cornell player had the line.
 
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