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Colgate 2013-14
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Boy, was I right or what? WOW!!!!!
Also, we hold tiebreakers over both Cornell and Clarkson. Very critical because this looks like it'll be one of those years where a team finishes with at least 26 ponts and misses the bye.
Boy, was I right or what? WOW!!!!!
Also, we hold tiebreakers over both Cornell and Clarkson. Very critical because this looks like it'll be one of those years where a team finishes with at least 26 ponts and misses the bye.
Re: Colgate 2013-14
If you watch a replay of the game look for the distance Illes' water bottle flew. I think it made if to the face off dot.
Pretty complete game, it's the game we needed to forget about the Yale brown wkend. And it was nice to get under their skin as there were a few Cornell players who were less than sportsman in the handshake line.
If you watch a replay of the game look for the distance Illes' water bottle flew. I think it made if to the face off dot.
Pretty complete game, it's the game we needed to forget about the Yale brown wkend. And it was nice to get under their skin as there were a few Cornell players who were less than sportsman in the handshake line.
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Exactly the rebound we needed, great game for Colgate!
Exactly the rebound we needed, great game for Colgate!
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I will play the downer a little bit- for as thoroughly satisfying, both from an atmosphere, and a result standpoint that tonight was- I don't like that the next two Fridays are RPI and Princeton. They both scream "trap game" knowing what is waiting the following day in both cases.
That said, they take care of business, and a regular-season championship is entirely gettable, as is a first-round bye. THAT said, looking ahead to next year, knowing that the only guaranteed losses are McCann and Mihalik, is starting to look very, very interesting. This has turned out to be a pretty fun season thus far, and there's no reason why that fun can't continue.
By the way, though it wasn't announced in-arena, the box score does have some scoring changes, giving Spiro his hat trick.
I will play the downer a little bit- for as thoroughly satisfying, both from an atmosphere, and a result standpoint that tonight was- I don't like that the next two Fridays are RPI and Princeton. They both scream "trap game" knowing what is waiting the following day in both cases.
That said, they take care of business, and a regular-season championship is entirely gettable, as is a first-round bye. THAT said, looking ahead to next year, knowing that the only guaranteed losses are McCann and Mihalik, is starting to look very, very interesting. This has turned out to be a pretty fun season thus far, and there's no reason why that fun can't continue.
By the way, though it wasn't announced in-arena, the box score does have some scoring changes, giving Spiro his hat trick.
Kepler
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
To be fair, Johnston was less than sportmanlike when his dirty hit injured Mowry. Somebody mugged Gotovets later but thankfully he returned to the ice for one shift late in the game.
But there was plenty of crap going on from both teams tonight. Celebrate your win, but leave the homer b.s. at home -- nobody was wearing a white hat.
To be fair, Johnston was less than sportmanlike when his dirty hit injured Mowry. Somebody mugged Gotovets later but thankfully he returned to the ice for one shift late in the game.
But there was plenty of crap going on from both teams tonight. Celebrate your win, but leave the homer b.s. at home -- nobody was wearing a white hat.
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No doubt that both teams were feisty. I will have to look at both major's to see exactly what happened before I pass judgment on either (saw them at the rink but will have to see where contact was actually made).
I wasnt being a homer with my comment, it was an observation that in past years Cornell would skate around Starr like their S*** doesnt stink. The series has tightened up in recent years and Cornell seems to be taking issue with that.
The issue I had with the handshake line is that it is so easy to shake hands and move on but Cornell seemed to try to start something in the line and even after the line when Colgate was waiting to salute the fans.
No doubt that both teams were feisty. I will have to look at both major's to see exactly what happened before I pass judgment on either (saw them at the rink but will have to see where contact was actually made).
I wasnt being a homer with my comment, it was an observation that in past years Cornell would skate around Starr like their S*** doesnt stink. The series has tightened up in recent years and Cornell seems to be taking issue with that.
The issue I had with the handshake line is that it is so easy to shake hands and move on but Cornell seemed to try to start something in the line and even after the line when Colgate was waiting to salute the fans.
Kepler
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Fair enough.
I don't agree with your assessment about Cornell taking Colgate lightly -- we've always been very leery of Colgate. IIRC when we went 16-1-1 down the stretch in 2003, they were the one. The sense of "skating like their **** don't stink" sounds very much like the accusation whenever A is archrivals with B who is archrivals with C. That's familiar because we have the same situation with Harvard, and I've heard Cornell fans say the same thing about the Crimson. It may seem to be true, but it's just a normal artifact of hating somebody who hates another. We don't circle the Colgate game but we don't ignore it either. (Although evidently we did tonight... and boy did we pay.)
Likewise the games have been tight for a while, now. Very physical, bordering on nasty, particularly when they are on successive nights. The younger fans of both teams seem to be inordinately idiotic to one another, but one advantage of being ancient is having seen that come and go in rivalries throughout the years -- nothing is probably ever going to be as malicious as the way Princeton and RPI fans used to go at each other; now that seems comical. Likewise we used to have issues with SLU when dinosaurs roamed the earth. And out west, of course, there have been rivalries where fans lose teeth. Thankfully we've never seen anything like that in this series, although visiting fans have been treated badly at both rinks unfortunately. But it will pass; it always does.
I really hope the Johnston hit was just an aberration and not a sign that there's brewing bad blood between the teams. After all, bad **** happens sometimes, even premeditated stuff by one player who thinks that's acceptable, and it's not significant -- the coach takes him aside and, er, re-educates him. One thing that's been a circuit breaker is that Schafer and Vaughn are friends -- they were assistant coaches together in 1989 and 1990. From what I've heard they like each other and they understand that each team benefits greatly when both teams are strong, since it makes the weekend pairing against us a nightmare.
'Gate destroyed us tonight and IMHO they outplayed us in both RS games. While neither team looks good enough to stand with Union or Quinnipiac, we're both candidates to get to Placid after which anything can happen. Hopefully that's where meeting #3 will take place (though I'd also accept Philadelphia).
Good luck for the rest of the RS.
Fair enough.
I don't agree with your assessment about Cornell taking Colgate lightly -- we've always been very leery of Colgate. IIRC when we went 16-1-1 down the stretch in 2003, they were the one. The sense of "skating like their **** don't stink" sounds very much like the accusation whenever A is archrivals with B who is archrivals with C. That's familiar because we have the same situation with Harvard, and I've heard Cornell fans say the same thing about the Crimson. It may seem to be true, but it's just a normal artifact of hating somebody who hates another. We don't circle the Colgate game but we don't ignore it either. (Although evidently we did tonight... and boy did we pay.)
Likewise the games have been tight for a while, now. Very physical, bordering on nasty, particularly when they are on successive nights. The younger fans of both teams seem to be inordinately idiotic to one another, but one advantage of being ancient is having seen that come and go in rivalries throughout the years -- nothing is probably ever going to be as malicious as the way Princeton and RPI fans used to go at each other; now that seems comical. Likewise we used to have issues with SLU when dinosaurs roamed the earth. And out west, of course, there have been rivalries where fans lose teeth. Thankfully we've never seen anything like that in this series, although visiting fans have been treated badly at both rinks unfortunately. But it will pass; it always does.
I really hope the Johnston hit was just an aberration and not a sign that there's brewing bad blood between the teams. After all, bad **** happens sometimes, even premeditated stuff by one player who thinks that's acceptable, and it's not significant -- the coach takes him aside and, er, re-educates him. One thing that's been a circuit breaker is that Schafer and Vaughn are friends -- they were assistant coaches together in 1989 and 1990. From what I've heard they like each other and they understand that each team benefits greatly when both teams are strong, since it makes the weekend pairing against us a nightmare.
'Gate destroyed us tonight and IMHO they outplayed us in both RS games. While neither team looks good enough to stand with Union or Quinnipiac, we're both candidates to get to Placid after which anything can happen. Hopefully that's where meeting #3 will take place (though I'd also accept Philadelphia).
Good luck for the rest of the RS.
Re: Colgate 2013-14
Still pinching myself and trying to wake up!! Our PP was great first half of last year, it is good again. I wonder if Spiro has anything to do with it
. Let me savor this for awhile. BTW..I would love to see a replay of the major penalties and maybe the handshake line. Any help out there ?
Still pinching myself and trying to wake up!! Our PP was great first half of last year, it is good again. I wonder if Spiro has anything to do with it
. Let me savor this for awhile. BTW..I would love to see a replay of the major penalties and maybe the handshake line. Any help out there ?'Gate Radio
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Just to quickly chime in here - the trash talking was going on both ways all night long. As mentioned on air, players were hanging out of the penalty boxes yelling at one another a few times during the third period. Thankfully at the end of the day, cooler heads prevailed. I didn't notice anything in the handshake line other than it was extremely fast which is probably a very good thing.
On the two major penalties, I wouldn't mind seeing the replay for both of them. I didn't see Johnston's hit live though he has made a few jarring hits like that this season where he cut across the defensive zone to try to stop an offensive rush. He most certainly has been a lot more physical this year than last but unfortunately at times, he has been a little over aggressive. I would imagine this was the case last night. Hopefully Dustin Mowrey is OK and returns for Cornell next weekend. I did see the J. McCarron major though I wouldn't mind another look. At live action from the end zone, it didn't appear to be anything that was deliberate and I thought at worst it may have been a double minor for simply being reckless with his stick off the face-off and catching Freeman in the side of the head.
That's my two cents. It was a very good win for the Raiders in front of a great crowd. Tremendous third period effort especially from Goulakos though it would've been a better period without some of the after the whistle shenanigans. Hopefully we'll see all of the students back next weekend. The key now for the Raiders is not to get too high after the win and stay focused on the task which is winning the next game on the schedule. Colgate leads Cornell and Clarkson by just one point and Yale isn't quite out of the mix just yet, especially if the Bulldogs get healthy.
Just to quickly chime in here - the trash talking was going on both ways all night long. As mentioned on air, players were hanging out of the penalty boxes yelling at one another a few times during the third period. Thankfully at the end of the day, cooler heads prevailed. I didn't notice anything in the handshake line other than it was extremely fast which is probably a very good thing.
On the two major penalties, I wouldn't mind seeing the replay for both of them. I didn't see Johnston's hit live though he has made a few jarring hits like that this season where he cut across the defensive zone to try to stop an offensive rush. He most certainly has been a lot more physical this year than last but unfortunately at times, he has been a little over aggressive. I would imagine this was the case last night. Hopefully Dustin Mowrey is OK and returns for Cornell next weekend. I did see the J. McCarron major though I wouldn't mind another look. At live action from the end zone, it didn't appear to be anything that was deliberate and I thought at worst it may have been a double minor for simply being reckless with his stick off the face-off and catching Freeman in the side of the head.
That's my two cents. It was a very good win for the Raiders in front of a great crowd. Tremendous third period effort especially from Goulakos though it would've been a better period without some of the after the whistle shenanigans. Hopefully we'll see all of the students back next weekend. The key now for the Raiders is not to get too high after the win and stay focused on the task which is winning the next game on the schedule. Colgate leads Cornell and Clarkson by just one point and Yale isn't quite out of the mix just yet, especially if the Bulldogs get healthy.
Re: Colgate 2013-14
The Johnston hit happened just about right in front of me. There was contact to the head, though I don't think it was intentional. Given the referee's discussions, I really think that what tipped it to 5+game was the fact that Mowrey was helped off the ice. McCarron, I think was an attempt by the referees to get things under control, that game was really on the verge of bubbling over on more than one occasion. By that point, the wheels were already starting to come off for Cornell- they had gotten it to 2-1, and then almost immediately thereafter, the penalty and the start of that 4-goals-in-5-minutes stretch that totally blew things open. I can't entirely blame Cornell for a lot of the shenanigans that went on, because they were absolutely shell-shocked by that blitz.
The Johnston hit happened just about right in front of me. There was contact to the head, though I don't think it was intentional. Given the referee's discussions, I really think that what tipped it to 5+game was the fact that Mowrey was helped off the ice. McCarron, I think was an attempt by the referees to get things under control, that game was really on the verge of bubbling over on more than one occasion. By that point, the wheels were already starting to come off for Cornell- they had gotten it to 2-1, and then almost immediately thereafter, the penalty and the start of that 4-goals-in-5-minutes stretch that totally blew things open. I can't entirely blame Cornell for a lot of the shenanigans that went on, because they were absolutely shell-shocked by that blitz.
Re: Colgate 2013-14
The entire game is archived here:
http://new.livestream.com/Colgate/channel2?query=colgate &cat=event
Still pinching myself and trying to wake up!! Our PP was great first half of last year, it is good again. I wonder if Spiro has anything to do with it
The entire game is archived here:
http://new.livestream.com/Colgate/channel2?query=colgate &cat=event
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Johnston was given a game disqualification for his contact to the head major which was assessed after a hit on Cornell's Dustin Mowrey. The game disqualification penalty carries with it an automatic one-game suspension as per NCAA rules. There may or may not be additional discipline from the league as well. There is an outside chance I suppose as well for Colgate to appeal the penalty to try and have it to taken down to a game misconduct. However, if there is no change in the penalty, Johnston will not play against RPI.
Johnston was given a game disqualification for his contact to the head major which was assessed after a hit on Cornell's Dustin Mowrey. The game disqualification penalty carries with it an automatic one-game suspension as per NCAA rules. There may or may not be additional discipline from the league as well. There is an outside chance I suppose as well for Colgate to appeal the penalty to try and have it to taken down to a game misconduct. However, if there is no change in the penalty, Johnston will not play against RPI.
Kepler
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Re: Colgate 2013-14
Well, that and at least half the shenanigans were initiated by 'Gate.
Our radio guy, who is usually pretty fair, tagged the McCarron call exactly as you did: things were getting very rough out there and the next guy who did anything was going to get A Statement. It happened to be one of our guys; it could easily have gone the other way. It was in a way poetic justice because there is no way we deserved to win that game, and we were getting momentum in the third and might have somehow turned it around if given enough chances (as we did for the first 'Gate game this year at Lynah).
Although you never, ever want to drop 2 points, particularly against a team you are fighting for a key slot, losing so horrendously was I hope a blessing in disguise, since nobody can fool themselves that the kind of effort we put in Saturday is acceptable. Colgate may have been the Lord's Vengeance that showed out guys they can't mail it in. Having that in combination with an opponent on fire and a terribly officiated game makes me thankful a given game can only count for one result.
Well, that and at least half the shenanigans were initiated by 'Gate.
Our radio guy, who is usually pretty fair, tagged the McCarron call exactly as you did: things were getting very rough out there and the next guy who did anything was going to get A Statement. It happened to be one of our guys; it could easily have gone the other way. It was in a way poetic justice because there is no way we deserved to win that game, and we were getting momentum in the third and might have somehow turned it around if given enough chances (as we did for the first 'Gate game this year at Lynah).
Although you never, ever want to drop 2 points, particularly against a team you are fighting for a key slot, losing so horrendously was I hope a blessing in disguise, since nobody can fool themselves that the kind of effort we put in Saturday is acceptable. Colgate may have been the Lord's Vengeance that showed out guys they can't mail it in. Having that in combination with an opponent on fire and a terribly officiated game makes me thankful a given game can only count for one result.
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I just "tried" to watch the game to see the penalties. The feed keeps jumping ahead a few seconds, doesn't show the penalties or half the goals.
I just "tried" to watch the game to see the penalties. The feed keeps jumping ahead a few seconds, doesn't show the penalties or half the goals.
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