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Colgate 2013-14

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I think next week is going to be our season. If they can hold close to .500 we can work with that record. I worry that if they get swept this young team struggles to get confidence back and could start a long year.

On a similar note our schedule has been difficult and they have done a decent job play well within games. I woulda liked to see them .500 going into the league but hopefully anyways
 
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Now let's not jump off the bridge here. Yes, we got swept at home by the same team for the first time since March 2010 (St. Lawrence), but these were essentially 1-goal losses. And last night, we could have thrown in the towel when it was 4-0, but we made a game out of it. Problem is, we shouldn't be falling behind early.

However, from a larger perspective, we got swept by St. Cloud (at home), Clarkson sweeps Colorado College, and Cornell sweeps Nebraska-Omaha (on the road). The ECAC as a whole has been doing well out-of-conference so far, but we're in a bit of a funk.

It doesn't get easier with our next 9 games being all league contests, but it's still early and we have the potential to go on a run of sorts. But at the same time, I don't want us to have a slow start to the league schedule.
 
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It's somewhat ironic that Andrew Dickson will be the featured guest at Silver Puck this weekend. The decline in our hockey fortunes is coincident with Dickson's departure (along with Stan Moore) when he was tapped by Columbus to scout for the Blue Jackets. He is now scouting for my Red Wings, one of the best run sports franchises in North America. Ron Fogarty, who played at a high level for DV in the early to mid 1990s and then became an assistant shortly thereafter, runs a very successful program at Adrian College. IF your assistants are perceived as good at what they do, they will be in demand. Gendron, on Allain's staff at Yale for several years, is now HEAD coach at Maine. Sometimes the truth is unpleasant, but our recruiting efforts over the past seven years has been, at a minimum, hap hazard and disappointing. AGAIN, no USHL presence and other choices that have been a failure. The ECAC continues to improve; we stand still. A 1-4-1 OOC record is not "OK"; St. Cloud is most likely a top 10 team, but one is hard pressed to continue either Bowling Green or Ferris State as top 20 programs this year. And four of these six games were on home ice. Look at Canisius...a strong finish to last year (should've beaten Q-Pac last year in NCAAs), they beat Denver in Colorado on Saturday night, 4-1. How many of those type wins have we witnessed in the past 7 1/2 yeras? Now I pray we start to improve - and on the defensive end I would expect to improve. I know DV can coach, but as head of the program he's also responsible at the end of the day for the talent arriving at Colgate...maybe the new building will help...it's really too early to judge this year's freshman class, but, to date, it appears the quantity is better than the quality. The next two years will be critical as the building is finished. At this point it is hard to justify a high level of confidence in light of the recent compete level of this program. PLEASE prove me wrong...
 
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What happened this weekend is reminiscent of the last few years. Friday night we go down 2-0, then come back to tie it and have the mo. 45 seconds later we give up the lead and lose the game. Saturday we give up 4 goals and play a horrible first period, then fight back, but it's too late. We've seen exactly these scenarios bedevil the team in the past. Lack of experience, problems clearing the puck from our zone, weaknesses on defense - these seem to be repetitive problems. Not to be redundant redundant, but there's a lot of truth to what GreenCoat posts.

I, too, would like to see more positive movement upward from season to season. That said, I'm not ready to give up on this team - it's much too early. The hope is that the frosh and sophs are steadily getting more experience and adjusting to ECAC play (if not OOC play). Hopefully this will pay off as we work thru the schedule. I prefer to see the glass as half full. One of the first true tests will come this weekend with QU and Princeton. We should get three points out of it, but I'm hoping for four.

Hey, as afternoon doubleheader on Saturday with Bucknell and Princeton + Silver Puck. What's not to like?
 
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3 or 4 points would be great...we're at home, there seem to be a few more fannies in the seats and maybe, just maybe, Sat night's horrible start and improved 2nd and 3rd period play will be the start of something positive...IT REALLY DOES NEED TO START THIS WEEKEND, at least re: consistent, competitive hockey...
 
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I agree with most of what you're saying coat and skate. The Bowling Green fiasco I just think maybe young misteaks, and when you get down 2-0 or 3-0 tendency is to press more offensively, and get caught up ice allowing more scores and getting completely out of your game plan, especially a young team. Forget about it.

Now, St Cloud is the best team I've seen so far this year. A Frozen Four participant last year, and #9 in the nation. Saturday night they looked like the Russian Red Army team in the first period, incredible tape to tape passing breaking out of their own end. They are a very good team, one of the best we'll face this year.

We could of packed it in after the first, down 4-0. But we didn't, we played a tremendous second and third period , a called off goal and Baum clanging one of the post with about five minutes left prevented the comeback. I'm with skate on this, always seeing the glass half full. We have SEVENTEEN frosh and sophs playing, they are still learning. Our forwards are good, we're deep in goal, the defense is where we're lacking skill and mostly depth. Next year we lose two players, we will hopefully fill the void and with our four scholarships focus on defensemen. The new rink should help immensely also. Going forward I am very positive, currently we will go thru growing pains, but I feel like it only gets better. Like our football team, we are undefeated in league play. Quinnipiac is maybe even better than St Cloud, we may lose, maybe not. I feel your frustration Green, I have been here way longer than you.

We really do posess a lot of talent on this team, they have to figure how to win, and play a full sixty minutes.
 
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I hear you Shabby and you make some very valid points...I really hope you're right...BTW, I've only been posting for c. 7 years, but have been contributing to Silver Puck since 1977-78 (Terry's first season where we gave up an ECAC record 180 goals in league play)...back then I enjoyed watching the program grow with "The General" and then with DV...would love to see the new facility attract great players and good kids...it might even convince the Silver Puck Council to treat its contributors as benefactors of 'Gate hockey and not those on a mandatory Christmas thank-you list.
 
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Just one thing to note here.

Colgate being a young team - that's putting it mildly. Looking at the numbers - you have two seniors, one of which is a forward (McCann). He is the only current player with over 100 games played. Barring injury, two returning junior forwards (Lidgett, Wilson) will surpass the 100-game mark this season (after the turn of the calendar to 2014) as will one of seven roster defensemen (Goulakos). No other skater has played more than 44 games in a Colgate sweater.
 
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yes...and we MUST recruit talented kids over the next two years to complement a good sophomore class and an unknown freshmen class...potential is just that: a hoped-for ability to raise the overall talent level to legitimately compete at a top 20 level in DI hockey...it's up to the coaches to bring in a limited AND TALENTED group of freshman this year and next...at some point our assistant coaches have to "bat" over .300 and deliver...maybe the prospect of a new facility will help...BTW, love listening to 'Gate Radio (as always)...he's pretty **** good at telling it like it is...go 'Gate..let's get a 4-point weekend for Silver Puck...
 
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Gate I am old and crotchety maybe but I'm sure I can tell you this without angering you. The thing around the ice is the "boards" not the "halfwall". I have heard why it's called that but it makes me cringe when I hear it used. There is no fullwall and they are the same height everywhere. While I'm confessing here, "saucer" pass drives me nuts(nuttier) also, it's a flip pass. You do a tremendous job, and offer much meaningfull insight here.

Coat, I got you by almost twenty years, I think I saw my first game in 1960 or 61, played on the first pee wee team in 62, first bantam team in 64, and first high school team after that, all at Starr.

Now let's beat Q-Pac !! BTW...Black is only playing at 75-80% cause he tweaked his hamstring. He will be a major impact player again.
 
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We are young and I would expect next year to be our best since I have been following the program (2001).

That being said lets not forget that quinnipiac had a really bad loss early last season (to AIC) at home. So just having a couple mediocre games does not ruin a season.

And look I would rather have the team play representative hockey instead of the hot starts and ice cold finishes of the last two years.

Plus if we can get on a roll we still have a huge game against Minnesota which could be a spring board
 
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Q-Pac is ranked #7 and is a great team. Their goalie a sophomore won fourty four straight games with the Penticon Vees in the BCHL:eek:. We are averaging just over "two" goals a game ranked about #50 nationally. We need a strong start, don't fall behind early.
 
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We have our second recruit for next year listed by Heisenberg, Racine from the USHL, can't find anything on him yet.
 
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Thanks Ralph. How does that league compare to the USHL..the P is for Premier. Another goalie.
 
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sshablak said:
Thanks Ralph. How does that league compare to the USHL..the P is for Premier. Another goalie.
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It appears the USPHL is the new incarnation of what was the EJHL --with additional tiers / teams /regions.

http://usphl.com/mission

USHL is of course top of the heap competition wise, with BCHL a solid 2nd, with the CCHL, OJHL ,NAHL , and the USPHL following . (I'll let others opine as to ranking these latter 4)
 
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I would be shocked if this young man was from the USHL...after all, many years ago we decided - with an exception here or there, including a young man coming from Green Bay in two years - that recruiting in the premier junior league in the United States wasn't in the cards. Why? I don't know; I've never been really provided with a rational answer...
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
It appears the USPHL is the new incarnation of what was the EJHL --with additional tiers / teams /regions.

http://usphl.com/mission

USHL is of course top of the heap competition wise, with BCHL a solid 2nd, with the CCHL, OJHL ,NAHL , and the USPHL following . (I'll let others opine as to ranking these latter 4)
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I would respectfully disagree Slapper. Having seen both, this year I would say the BCHL is on par with the USHL.
 
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