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Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
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JF_Gophers
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Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Maybe the team just isn't good.
Maybe the team just isn't good.
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Or maybe they're dealing with a lot of injuries. Maybe they're dressing 7 defensemen because they don't have enough healthy bodies to fill 4 forward lines. Maybe they're showing a lot of character by competing through some very tough circumstances, with the full support, admiration, and gratitude of their new coach. Maybe this type of criticism is ridiculous after less than one season.
Or maybe they're dealing with a lot of injuries. Maybe they're dressing 7 defensemen because they don't have enough healthy bodies to fill 4 forward lines. Maybe they're showing a lot of character by competing through some very tough circumstances, with the full support, admiration, and gratitude of their new coach. Maybe this type of criticism is ridiculous after less than one season.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Fire Bob Prier!
Fire Bob Prier!
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Are you serious? 8 members of Gadowsky's last team graduated, including 3 of the top 4 scorers from last year. Of course it looks a lot different. What in the world did you expect?
This year's Princeton team has 17 freshmen and sophomores (just 9 juniors and seniors), has lost a ton of player-games to injury, and is adjusting to a coaching change. And you guys are going to judge the new program before you even get through the first season?
Are you serious? 8 members of Gadowsky's last team graduated, including 3 of the top 4 scorers from last year. Of course it looks a lot different. What in the world did you expect?
This year's Princeton team has 17 freshmen and sophomores (just 9 juniors and seniors), has lost a ton of player-games to injury, and is adjusting to a coaching change. And you guys are going to judge the new program before you even get through the first season?
hockeyplayer1015
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TimU speaks the truth.
Atleast give Coach Prier 3 years to get his own recruits in, get his systems in place, etc.
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
I won't disagree with the fact that he needs to be given a chance and that it's still early, but why give him so long and to get new recruits. It's not like he took over a program in shambles and was brought in to save it. Au contraire, the head coach left for greener pastures in the Big 10. He deserves a chance to the youth and injuries, but the players he has now were brought in by a pretty good coaching staff and should be able to compete and be among the league's elite.
I won't disagree with the fact that he needs to be given a chance and that it's still early, but why give him so long and to get new recruits. It's not like he took over a program in shambles and was brought in to save it. Au contraire, the head coach left for greener pastures in the Big 10. He deserves a chance to the youth and injuries, but the players he has now were brought in by a pretty good coaching staff and should be able to compete and be among the league's elite.
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Again: 3 of 4 top scorers graduated. 17 freshmen and sophomores. Inordinate number of injuries. New coach. Not even one season in the books yet. Questioning the system or the head coach's connection with the players at this point is flat-out ridiculous.
By the way, Guy Gadowsky's record in his first three seasons:
8-20-3
10-18-3
15-16-3
Calm down. Be patient.
Again: 3 of 4 top scorers graduated. 17 freshmen and sophomores. Inordinate number of injuries. New coach. Not even one season in the books yet. Questioning the system or the head coach's connection with the players at this point is flat-out ridiculous.
By the way, Guy Gadowsky's record in his first three seasons:
8-20-3
10-18-3
15-16-3
Calm down. Be patient.
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hockeyplayer1015
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Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Yes, Prier took over a program that was on the rise. Yes, there is a pretty good group of players there. However, something that needs to be considered in this as well are a couple things. (Disclaimer, I have not seen Princeton this year) It is possible that the players aren't truly suited to the new systems/style that Prier has brought in. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just something that should be recognized. Also, as Tim has mentioned, a fair amount of man-games being lost to injury doesn't help matters any. The other thing here is that the parity of the league this year trumps what we have become accustom to, outside of Cornell and Union, the rest of the league is extremely bunched up.
Look at Colgate from last year. Just struggled to win games, often losing by a goal or 2 with an ENG against. This year's Colgate team isn't much different with their roster, but they have been winning those close games they lost last year. That's the excitement we have with this league, you just can never take a night off or coast by on a weekend.
Something else to think about. I think we can all agree that Gadowsky is a very good coach. Do you expect Penn St to go and be a front runner for the Big10 next year? I doubt anybody does, it will take a while. The situation is different there with essentially starting from scratch, but coaches still need to be given a few years to get their recruits in place and the players to really get the systems and style of play.
You guys will be alright, just be patient. Bobby Prier is a great guy who learned from one of the best in the nation.
Yes, Prier took over a program that was on the rise. Yes, there is a pretty good group of players there. However, something that needs to be considered in this as well are a couple things. (Disclaimer, I have not seen Princeton this year) It is possible that the players aren't truly suited to the new systems/style that Prier has brought in. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just something that should be recognized. Also, as Tim has mentioned, a fair amount of man-games being lost to injury doesn't help matters any. The other thing here is that the parity of the league this year trumps what we have become accustom to, outside of Cornell and Union, the rest of the league is extremely bunched up.
Look at Colgate from last year. Just struggled to win games, often losing by a goal or 2 with an ENG against. This year's Colgate team isn't much different with their roster, but they have been winning those close games they lost last year. That's the excitement we have with this league, you just can never take a night off or coast by on a weekend.
Something else to think about. I think we can all agree that Gadowsky is a very good coach. Do you expect Penn St to go and be a front runner for the Big10 next year? I doubt anybody does, it will take a while. The situation is different there with essentially starting from scratch, but coaches still need to be given a few years to get their recruits in place and the players to really get the systems and style of play.
You guys will be alright, just be patient. Bobby Prier is a great guy who learned from one of the best in the nation.
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
I was under the impression that this was a bona fide rebuilding year for Princeton, and that ANY success would be somewhat surprising. Not to say they've overachieved, but they don't seem to be such a huge disappointment to me. They looked pretty decent when I saw them play Brown in Providence in January. Although outplayed, they were able to turn great goaltending and opportunistic offense into a victory.
I was under the impression that this was a bona fide rebuilding year for Princeton, and that ANY success would be somewhat surprising. Not to say they've overachieved, but they don't seem to be such a huge disappointment to me. They looked pretty decent when I saw them play Brown in Providence in January. Although outplayed, they were able to turn great goaltending and opportunistic offense into a victory.
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
He is way over his head at a top academic school. Gadowsky knew how to motivate the kids at such a place but Prier seems to alienate them. I don't believe that he is a good fit there Maybe another university would be a different story.
He is way over his head at a top academic school. Gadowsky knew how to motivate the kids at such a place but Prier seems to alienate them. I don't believe that he is a good fit there Maybe another university would be a different story.
bcuafmsu2
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Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
“It’s been great,” (Michael) Sdao said of the transition. “There’s been some changes in our system, and it took a while to get used to. [Now that we're used to it] I think we’ll have a great last 15 to 20 games.”
http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/24/sdaos-good-feeling-about-princeton-gets-better
“It’s been great,” (Michael) Sdao said of the transition. “There’s been some changes in our system, and it took a while to get used to. [Now that we're used to it] I think we’ll have a great last 15 to 20 games.”
http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/24/sdaos-good-feeling-about-princeton-gets-better
Re: Coaching experiment at Princeton failing?
Right, that makes perfect sense. They should have gone back to what worked with Gadowsky, and found someone who understands the subtleties of coaching at a top-flight academic institution like Alaska-Fairbanks. Prier's spent the past ten years working with those ECAC dummies at St. Lawrence and . . . what was that other school? Oh yeah, PRINCETON.
You're making less and less sense the more you say.
Right, that makes perfect sense. They should have gone back to what worked with Gadowsky, and found someone who understands the subtleties of coaching at a top-flight academic institution like Alaska-Fairbanks. Prier's spent the past ten years working with those ECAC dummies at St. Lawrence and . . . what was that other school? Oh yeah, PRINCETON.
You're making less and less sense the more you say.