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CHL to NCAA Recruiting Megathread

cinnamoroll said:
07 G Samuel Meloche commits to Northeastern, Rouyn-Noranda standout rookie, 4th round pick of Buffalo this summer. Notably comes from the same youth program as a certain Devon Levi, also Buffalo property…

Also something that could help with CHL retention particularly the high end guys: the NHL has announced certain CBA changes going into effect this season instead of next, among which is the updated NHL/CHL agreement allowing for 1 19 y/o CHL player per NHL team to be AHL eligible.
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For the Sharks, is that Dickinson?
 
Sparkee said:
For the Sharks, is that Dickinson?
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yes, except this has now been walked back by puckpedia. reportedly the start date still needs to be discussed

also, in a week or so NHL camps are having their rookie tournaments. CHL players are eligible to attend, so they usually miss the end of preseason (and depending on when they get cut, the first few regular season games). NCAA commits in the CHL are also attending. Sharks have Max Heise (Prince Albert, Michigan State) and Teddy Mutryn (Moncton, BC) both attending theirs. plenty of CHL FA get invites so if a commit looks like they're missing from preseason, they could be on a camp roster
 
BREAKING NEWS: a CHL team has finally posted the first lineup card with college logos on it!!!!! Shout out Wenatchee Wild, who dressed Minnesota State commits Aiden Grossklaus and Mason Kraft, Yale commit Rui Han, Colgate commit Luka Shcherbyna, Merrimack commit Sam Elliott, and St. Thomas commit Josh Toll. Roster also has a lot of Minnesota representatives besides those 3 who are uncommitted atp.

Probably helps they inherited the organization of a BCHL franchise when Winnipeg relocated two seasons ago, maybe Penticton will also do it before everyone else for similar reasons. Honestly having those relationships in place through BCHL experiences probably helps those two with the transition
 
Ditra said:
Article posted on NHL.com about NCAA rule change opening up path for CHL player's. Somehow throughout the whole article they never mention that players can make a ton of money by going NCAA route over traditional CHL. 🤷‍♂️

https://www.nhl.com/news/ncaa-college-hockey-becoming-major-pathway-to-nhl
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probably because compared to what they'll make at the NHL level it's negligible. the NHL doesnt care about that stuff, they just wanna know how prospects are going to be best prepared for the NHL, which is what the article does cover well

maybe im in the minority here, but i couldn't care less about most of the NIL discourse. CHL fans bring it up all the time but the much bigger impact of money in this equation is the facilities, which are vastly superior at the college level.
 
Ditra said:
Article posted on NHL.com about NCAA rule change opening up path for CHL player's. Somehow throughout the whole article they never mention that players can make a ton of money by going NCAA route over traditional CHL. 🤷‍♂️

https://www.nhl.com/news/ncaa-college-hockey-becoming-major-pathway-to-nhl
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In most cases, it won't be either/or in regards to the CHL and NCAA. It will be more of first the CHL and then the NCAA as most NCAA coaches want the more mature and developed 19 and 20 year old.
 
cinnamoroll said:
probably because compared to what they'll make at the NHL level it's negligible. the NHL doesnt care about that stuff, they just wanna know how prospects are going to be best prepared for the NHL, which is what the article does cover well

maybe im in the minority here, but i couldn't care less about most of the NIL discourse. CHL fans bring it up all the time but the much bigger impact of money in this equation is the facilities, which are vastly superior at the college level.
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It feels like you are more interested in following players versus those who have a specific team they follow. Deeper pockets are going to sway the landscape, while the NHL may not care about NIL, a player's agent certainly does. This will be a very interesting season for sure.
 
beaverhockeyfan said:
In most cases, it won't be either/or in regards to the CHL and NCAA. It will be more of first the CHL and then the NCAA as most NCAA coaches want the more mature and developed 19 and 20 year old.
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It isn't any different than USHL/NAHL playing experience before NCAA. Players starting as high schoolers in many instances in both USHL and CHL.
 
Ditra said:
It isn't any different than USHL/NAHL playing experience before NCAA. Players starting as high schoolers in many instances in both USHL and CHL.
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You post made it sound like the players were going to choose either the CHL route or the NCAA route. I was just pointing out that the CHL route, in almost all cases, will come before the NCAA route. You are correct in saying that it isn't any different that the USHL/NAHL route in the past.
 
Ditra said:
It feels like you are more interested in following players versus those who have a specific team they follow. Deeper pockets are going to sway the landscape, while the NHL may not care about NIL, a player's agent certainly does. This will be a very interesting season for sure.
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absolute true on all counts- i just meant that naturally the nhl isn’t going to mention it in an article on their own website when it’s about the specific players for them as well. not surprising they didn’t mention NIL. i didn’t mean to invalidate the issues if that’s how it came across. more just like the NHL, i’m also not all that bothered about the NIL stuff. i also think the pool of new players does a lot for evening out the playing field in the grand scheme of things

the one thing i do think is worth pointing out is that McKenna seemed to be interested in Penn State from the start, and accepting more money was more about setting a precedent (which agents definitely care about). if a Gavin McKenna isn’t getting the most money, it kneecaps the rest of the players. his agent was doing the players and agents a favor and i’m sure felt some responsibility here to do so.
 
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cinnamoroll said:
absolute true on all counts- i just meant that naturally the nhl isn’t going to mention it in an article on their own website when it’s about the specific players for them as well. not surprising they didn’t mention NIL. i didn’t mean to invalidate the issues if that’s how it came across. more just like the NHL, i’m also not all that bothered about the NIL stuff. i also think the pool of new players does a lot for evening out the playing field in the grand scheme of things

the one thing i do think is worth pointing out is that McKenna seemed to be interested in Penn State from the start, and accepting more money was more about setting a precedent (which agents definitely care about). if a Gavin McKenna isn’t getting the most money, it kneecaps the rest of the players. his agent was doing the players and agents a favor and i’m sure felt some responsibility here to do so.
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I think it is going to be interesting to see what happens going forward. Schools have $20.5 million a year to spend on NIL across all sports (I hesitate to say "only $20,5 million"). At a "Power 5" schools like the Big 10, are the football teams going to be happy with a niche sport like hockey taking $700,000 away from the pot? I mean, I have heard reports from someone very close to college hockey recruiting that backup linemen in the SEC are getting $150,000+.....

Also, with payment outside of the NIL guidelines allowed, how is this going to figure in? Yes, all those have to be reported to the Clearinghouse and are subject to Fair Market Value guidelines, but who/what decides fair market value? If a player is offered a deal that gets shot down, will said player sue for taking their earning potential away from them?
 
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beaverhockeyfan said:
I think it is going to be interesting to see what happens going forward. Schools have $20.5 million a year to spend on NIL across all sports (I hesitate to say "only $20,5 million"). At a "Power 5" schools like the Big 10, are the football teams going to be happy with a niche sport like hockey taking $700,000 away from the pot? I mean, I have heard reports from someone very close to college hockey recruiting that backup linemen in the SEC are getting $150,000+.....

Also, with payment outside of the NIL guidelines allowed, how is this going to figure in? Yes, all those have to be reported to the Clearinghouse and are subject to Fair Market Value guidelines, but who/what decides fair market value? If a player is offered a deal that gets shot down, will said player sue for taking their earning potential away from them?
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Rumor has it the University of Minnesota hands out an average of 5k per month to football, basketball and men's hockey players.
 
beaverhockeyfan said:
I think it is going to be interesting to see what happens going forward. Schools have $20.5 million a year to spend on NIL across all sports (I hesitate to say "only $20,5 million"). At a "Power 5" schools like the Big 10, are the football teams going to be happy with a niche sport like hockey taking $700,000 away from the pot? I mean, I have heard reports from someone very close to college hockey recruiting that backup linemen in the SEC are getting $150,000+.....

Also, with payment outside of the NIL guidelines allowed, how is this going to figure in? Yes, all those have to be reported to the Clearinghouse and are subject to Fair Market Value guidelines, but who/what decides fair market value? If a player is offered a deal that gets shot down, will said player sue for taking their earning potential away from them?
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Does Bemidji have a NIL collective? I am really hoping the CCHA can get more non-conference wins this year and challenge to get two teams in the NCAA Tournament.
 
Ditra said:
Does Bemidji have a NIL collective? I am really hoping the CCHA can get more non-conference wins this year and challenge to get two teams in the NCAA Tournament.
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Bemidji State opted out of the settlement this year and will re-examine next year. With being a D-II school in all sports but hockey, they wanted to see where everything falls. I know they had some concerns with the roster limits, last year the Women's team would have been down to one goalie due to injuries. They would have had to cut a player or two mid season and brought goalies in to have spares on the roster.

Players still can be paid outside of the settlement as long as it passes the Clearinghouse. Not sure where the money would come from outside of some free meals from businesses and such, with BSU being a small school. I know last year some of the football linemen got some meals through NIL deals with a restaurant.
 
So in those three men's sports, that would be 146 players. 146 x $5000 = $730,000 a month. I will assume that is for the whole year, so $8,760,000 used.

4four4 said:
Rumor has it the University of Minnesota hands out an average of 5k per month to football, basketball and men's hockey players.
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