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MavsFan sure hope not.. I said this on the Mavs thread need to spend a get a catch of a coach also. Kinda like a younger guy who has a name and looking to jump start coaching career. Ex NHL player maybe from Minnesota
 
Puckstopper467 said:
MavsFan sure hope not.. I said this on the Mavs thread need to spend a get a catch of a coach also. Kinda like a younger guy who has a name and looking to jump start coaching career. Ex NHL player maybe from Minnesota
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The AD better move fast. Hearing nothing. Anyone???
 
Nothing,

I think the fact that 4 already hit the transfer portal gave the AD more time. Those guys are gone, he even said it in the paper. Players rarely don't leave once in the portal. It can't get any worse so he might as well due his due diligence and get a good coach
 
Puckstopper467 said:
Yeah I mean Hastings did a great job do not get me wrong, but he was hardly a name when he arrived. Get the name now and players will follow.
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The two big differences between when Hastings came and today:

1. Eleven years ago, Jutting was fired because MSU had been finishing in 11th place in a 12-team league. The players were looking forward to a change.

2. Eleven years ago, the guys with eligibility left weren't being offered pro contacts in the numbers they are now, and they couldn't transfer without sitting out a year.

So, players stuck around, unlike the massive exodus we've seen in the last week.
 
I just have to say it. The big has been working on using their financial muscle to make sure no one else wins for some time. Is it successful?... to some degree it is. All the top recruits go to big money schools. And I include BU and BC in big money. it makes me mad every time I think about it. Small teams honestly are going to start re-evaluating whether they participate if they have no shot at winning, especially given the ever increasing cost. I think that's sad. If you can't win on a level playing field unlevel the field.
Let me give you an example . A few years ago Tech had been recruiting a guy real hard who they felt would really help and was a hands type guy. A big team found out about it and offered him a visit. They picked him up in a private jet and flew him in. He went with them. No offense of course. He had a great career. Smaller schools just don't have money to do that.
I think this same thing is true in Football. EMU tried to drop football last year and ended up reinstating it after an outcry. But it costs them every year, for what?
 
manurespreader said:
I just have to say it. The big has been working on using their financial muscle to make sure no one else wins for some time. Is it successful?... to some degree it is. All the top recruits go to big money schools. And I include BU and BC in big money. it makes me mad every time I think about it. Small teams honestly are going to start re-evaluating whether they participate if they have no shot at winning, especially given the ever increasing cost. I think that's sad. If you can't win on a level playing field unlevel the field.
Let me give you an example . A few years ago Tech had been recruiting a guy real hard who they felt would really help and was a hands type guy. A big team found out about it and offered him a visit. They picked him up in a private jet and flew him in. He went with them. No offense of course. He had a great career. Smaller schools just don't have money to do that.
I think this same thing is true in Football. EMU tried to drop football last year and ended up reinstating it after an outcry. But it costs them every year, for what?
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This is why I shake my head when the pundits at USCHO.com gush about Power 5 schools moving their ACHA progams to D1. It will absolutely ruin college hockey as we know it.
 
manurespreader said:
I just have to say it. The big has been working on using their financial muscle to make sure no one else wins for some time. Is it successful?... to some degree it is. All the top recruits go to big money schools. And I include BU and BC in big money. it makes me mad every time I think about it. Small teams honestly are going to start re-evaluating whether they participate if they have no shot at winning, especially given the ever increasing cost. I think that's sad. If you can't win on a level playing field unlevel the field.
Let me give you an example . A few years ago Tech had been recruiting a guy real hard who they felt would really help and was a hands type guy. A big team found out about it and offered him a visit. They picked him up in a private jet and flew him in. He went with them. No offense of course. He had a great career. Smaller schools just don't have money to do that.
I think this same thing is true in Football. EMU tried to drop football last year and ended up reinstating it after an outcry. But it costs them every year, for what?
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BG's women's hoops made it to the Fab Four of the NIT. Fantastic season. Great incoming recruiting class. Michigan State hires away our coach to the tune of $900k (their AD admitted he may have overpaid since he was aware other schools were targeting our coach and he wanted her on board). Now we have some of our best players in the portal with recruiting up in the air. Sound familiar?

There's now talk amongst MAC schools that we should more fully embrace being a stepping stone when it come to the revenue sports and learn to live with the build up/tear down that the portal brings with it. This scenario isn't going away for any of us.
 
So it's the big now saying be happy we are sc**** you? Sorry I'm not happy to be Sc****. And i'm not ok with being the minor leagues. You want me to play in the minors? I have other things I can do with that money.
 
manurespreader said:
So it's the big now saying be happy we are sc**** you? Sorry I'm not happy to be Sc****. And i'm not ok with being the minor leagues. You want me to play in the minors? I have other things I can do with that money.
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I’m 100% with you. I just don’t know what to do about it. We don’t have $700k to spend on a hockey coach nor do we have access to a private jet to impress recruits.
 
TalonsUpPuckDown said:
I’m 100% with you. I just don’t know what to do about it. We don’t have $700k to spend on a hockey coach nor do we have access to a private jet to impress recruits.
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Well, about that jet..... access is there. Availability and whether or not it would make a difference is another story.
 
TalonsUpPuckDown said:
BG's women's hoops made it to the Fab Four of the NIT. Fantastic season. Great incoming recruiting class. Michigan State hires away our coach to the tune of $900k (their AD admitted he may have overpaid since he was aware other schools were targeting our coach and he wanted her on board). Now we have some of our best players in the portal with recruiting up in the air. Sound familiar?

There's now talk amongst MAC schools that we should more fully embrace being a stepping stone when it come to the revenue sports and learn to live with the build up/tear down that the portal brings with it. This scenario isn't going away for any of us.
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That is what we are as long as we stay in FBS. Of course, I don't think that changes much if the entire MAC dropped to FCS. WMU had no way to keep Fleck in 2016 - we certainly tried, but in the end money is always the thing. Stop buying cable packages, and save the world.
 
It will be interesting to see how many of these teams lose young players and how many keep them. If you are CCHA teams, do you wait and hold onto a slot or two hoping to pick up someone or do you stick with the kids you have so far.
 
manurespreader said:
It will be interesting to see how many of these teams lose young players and how many keep them. If you are CCHA teams, do you wait and hold onto a slot or two hoping to pick up someone or do you stick with the kids you have so far.
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for the CCHA I am 100% in the camp you develop and play your own kids. CCHA teams will only get kids who are unhappy with their lack of playing time or kids that were really good early in juniors and cannot make that kind of impact at the college level. The portal only fits CCHA teams if you have a hole by senior and you need some leadership or a late departure. The threat to CCHA teams is a player excelling and taking off to the B1G or NCHC
 
Puckstopper467 said:
for the CCHA I am 100% in the camp you develop and play your own kids. CCHA teams will only get kids who are unhappy with their lack of playing time or kids that were really good early in juniors and cannot make that kind of impact at the college level. The portal only fits CCHA teams if you have a hole by senior and you need some leadership or a late departure. The threat to CCHA teams is a player excelling and taking off to the B1G or NCHC
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Yes, because none of Hank Crone last year, and David Keefer, Artem Shlaine and Kristof Papp this year all didn't make an impact for NMU...
 
moose97 said:
Yes, because none of Hank Crone last year, and David Keefer, Artem Shlaine and Kristof Papp this year all didn't make an impact for NMU...
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Then why did Larson leave? and the players you named were not wanted where they were. Let's be honest, NMU was terrible all year and and caught a few teams playing down at the end. Keep working the portal and stay 5-8 in the CCHA if that works, have fun with that
 
Puckstopper467 said:
Then why did Larson leave? and the players you named were not wanted where they were. Let's be honest, NMU was terrible all year and and caught a few teams playing down at the end. Keep working the portal and stay 5-8 in the CCHA if that works, have fun with that
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Because he saw an opportunity that wasn't there before. Yes, NMU underachieved all year until the last month. And yeah, Tech & BSU were so down they beat Mankato just before playing NMU. And BG had just beaten Tech. What a clown shoes comment...
 
Wouldn't that be something if the Summit League started a hockey conference? They have 5 out of 6 members already playing hockey and then they can invite CC to make it 6 schools. Might even help the expansion of college hockey on the western frontier.
 
4four4 said:
Wouldn't that be something if the Summit League started a hockey conference? They have 5 out of 6 members already playing hockey and then they can invite CC to make it 6 schools. Might even help the expansion of college hockey on the western frontier.
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They have 4 members. Lindenwood is an affiliate member & the Summit wouldn't be obligated to include them. Pretty sure they would throw out invites to CC, SCSU, Mankato & Duluth. Possibly Western & ASU, but those two would sure be on an island compared to the rest of the league. And so to would BSU be a geographic outlier in the CCHA.
 
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