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Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

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Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

There are good jobs out there for low skilled and mechanically inclined people, it's just that people aren't learning those mechanical skills. Look up job openings for machinists. Companies can't find enough of them becuase people don't know the skillset. Jobs around here start at $19-20/hr. While it's not great, experienced machinists can get around $30-35/hr, which will make for a comfortable living. My brother owns a small commercial HVAC company that employs five union craftsmen, the union appretinceship starting wage of $25/hr, has a number of the experienced journeymen making $45/hr plus union benefits, but my brother complains of not enough qualified HVAC techs with enough skills for him to commit the $85,000 in startup equipment required per employee. He has a backlog of work out there right now. A service industry isn't all retail and restaurants.

They said the same thing about Welders. Then a guy went through and got certified and no one would pay him so he went off and did something else. He wrote a letter to the Star Tribune about it. If I can find it I'll post it.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Well, since I have a captive audience interested in the subject, here goes:

People IMHO don't care what CEO's are making, or about a multiple of CEO earnings to their own. Whether Donald Trump is making 500x or 1000x your salary - what difference does it make?

The problem is working class jobs now come with little job security or benefits, if they can be found at all. Lets face it, not everybody has the intelligence, money, or interest to go to college. Yes you can join the military but you probably need schooling to advance and make a career out of it. Otherwise its a short term solution unless you land in law enforcement afterwards and to the best of my knowledge the country isn't ramping up police and fire jobs, its cutting them.

So you can make money as a roofer, or a plumber, but you're working for yourself with no security. You'll also work until you drop. Small wonder people are PO'd. Also private sector unions have basically ceased to exist and are shrinking if they do.

So, what to do? This is from page 50 of the Rover Manifesto. ;)

First, I'd recreate the steel industry in this country, in the places where its departed (the rust belt). Steel production used to support over 1M jobs. Now its less than 100K I think. The problem is slave labor in cheap places like China, which controls half the market and dwarfs all other countries. That's great, but say we get into a conflict, military or economic with that country. Still think they'll sell us this vital product? Uh - no. For national security reasons, which ought to be a legal way around any economic pacts we're bound to, the US needs to have the capacity to supply its own needs in times of crisis. As you can't slap up one of these factories overnight, they need to be built and supported by tax breaks to make the price of manufacturing comparable with slave labor competitors, up to the point where its deemed this country is self sufficient then tax breaks end for additional production. The rest of the world doesn't like it? Tough sh !t. Stop asking us to be the world's policeman then. :rolleyes: Job creation from this (say half million jobs as automation prevents you from getting back to old #). That will have a spillover effect creating even more jobs in these communties.

Why the Rust Belt? States are already a giant hazmat zone. Might as well put it where you can't do any more damage, and restore some hope to these places. Really, if you place these in Detroit, Buffalo, or WVA, what part of the landscape are you ruining?

Page 51 of Manifesto - Supply Chain Diversification. I don't know what the fuk the Commerce Dept does all day, but they're getting a new mandate. Having all of your I-Pod, Computer, or Widget factores in China, El Salvadore, or Vietnam is a bad idea. A natural disaster, political unrest, disease, etc can cripple the production of a company's products. I'm not expecting these jobs to move wholesale back here, but the case must be made that relocating some production back in the US is a good idea. New Balance shoe company does this - making some, but not all, of its sneakers in Mass and Maine. The company seems to be thriving, so if it can be done in the sneaker business it ought to be done everywhere. Joseph Abboud makes high end suits in Mass as well.

This has the potential to create millions of jobs, and it violates no treaties nor do any laws have to be passed. With China and US labor costs converging, this needs to start happening now to take advantage of that.

Lastly, in conjunction with energy independence, US trucking and bus fleet needs to convert to natural gas. That means infrastructure improvements running pipelines to all service stations. It means retrofitting trucking and bus fleets. It means blue collar jobs! AND it helps achieve fuel efficiency goals using a natural resource we have in abundance.

Now I realize some of these proposals take some balls. My marketing campaign is America, FIRST. As in, lets put our own needs first and foremost, and give those working class slobs a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Also note that none of this will bust the budget.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

I say we leave the steel production to China for awhile. As soon as the Chinese figure out they actually like to breathe, they'll either dramatically back off of their own production or figure out (steal?) a way to produce steel without the wholesale use of coal. Once they do that, we'll just steal that idea from them and bring the business back to this country without killing our air.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

American commercial policy has always been Me First. The Me just happens to be the 1%.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

I say we leave the steel production to China for awhile. As soon as the Chinese figure out they actually like to breathe, they'll either dramatically back off of their own production or figure out (steal?) a way to produce steel without the wholesale use of coal. Once they do that, we'll just steal that idea from them and bring the business back to this country without killing our air.


Tough to demand change when you live in the Communist dictatorship that is China....
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

I say we leave the steel production to China for awhile. As soon as the Chinese figure out they actually like to breathe, they'll either dramatically back off of their own production or figure out (steal?) a way to produce steel without the wholesale use of coal. Once they do that, we'll just steal that idea from them and bring the business back to this country without killing our air.

Don't you need coal (coke) to make steel? It will take a Nobel Prize winning metallurgist to discover a new method.

Which leads to a question (sorry LynahFan, I know how you hate questions) - are we becoming a risk averse nation? Are we willing to undergo (multiple) failures to achieve a goal?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Which leads to a question (sorry LynahFan, I know how you hate questions) - are we becoming a risk averse nation? Are we willing to undergo (multiple) failures to achieve a goal?

We are becoming a nation where all the resources are tied up by a caste that also owns the government, so no matter what they do they continue to magnify their wealth and face zero risk. Whenever that's been the case before (14th century Baghdad, 15th century China, 17th century Spain) innovation has died.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Tough to demand change when you live in the Communist dictatorship that is China....

Even that's loosening, though very slowly. It's going to spread outward from Hong Kong.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

We are becoming a nation where all the resources are tied up by a caste that also owns the government, so no matter what they do they continue to magnify their wealth and face zero risk. Whenever that's been the case before (14th century Baghdad, 15th century China, 17th century Spain) innovation has died.

Correct on all counts.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Don't you need coal (coke) to make steel?

Since everything always comes back to oil, it appears that modern steel mills use a petroleum byproduct called "petcoke."
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Want a great job?

Learn to weld
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Trust me. Skilled welders who can work on piping are in such demand right now.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

You can't outsource a field welder.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Don't you need coal (coke) to make steel? It will take a Nobel Prize winning metallurgist to discover a new method.

Which leads to a question (sorry LynahFan, I know how you hate questions) - are we becoming a risk averse nation? Are we willing to undergo (multiple) failures to achieve a goal?
If we were a risk-averse nation, we wouldn't go $17 trillion or whatever the current number is in debt.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

We are becoming a nation where all the resources are tied up by a caste that also owns the government, so no matter what they do they continue to magnify their wealth and face zero risk. Whenever that's been the case before (14th century Baghdad, 15th century China, 17th century Spain) innovation has died.

A little bit more than just innovation died in (technically 13th century) Baghdad.
 
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