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Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is awful

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St. Clown said:
Because enough people just don't care, that's how.
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Other than "they are coming for my GUNSSSS!" BS.

Even though Obama never did anything to suppress guns, my friends still claim he tried to get them, which is why they went out and got more. Amazing the degree of brainwashing the NRA and the gun industry did. If Hillary wins, I should go and get some stocks- certainly sales will rocket up, again.
 
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French Rage said:
Retraction on page D-12: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-me...for-clinton-foundation-report-230743?cmpid=sf
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Literally does not matter. The only people who take FNC seriously are straight ticket R until they die, which can't be soon enough.

By any reasonable calculation, Fox News is niche. And its niche is old white men. Cable news is a gerontocratic kingdom where Fox News serves as king. The median age of Americans watching CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News is over 60. Half of Fox News viewers are over the age of 68.

Television is particularly popular among men, people who didn’t go to college, and people over the age of 70, which is a great description of a predictable conservative. (Retired seniors watch more than 50 hours of television a week.) Indeed, this older male group is not only ready-made for cable-television-viewing; it comes prepackaged with extremely conservative views. Over the last three general-election cycles, the 65-and-up group voted for the GOP presidential candidate by an average of 9 percentage points.

This is Fox News’s secret sauce: not production values, personalities, or entertainment, but demography. Old men are the most dependably conservative of any age group, and old men watch the most cable news of any age group. Fox News’ core demographic—and, by the transitive property, its success—is a fortuitous alignment, the perfect captive audience for an interminable documentary of the conservative outlook on American life.
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A Democratic elector from Washington state said he won't vote for Hillary even if she wins the popular vote in WA. So she now technically needs 271 EVs to win.
 
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MaizeRage said:
A Democratic elector from Washington state said he won't vote for Hillary even if she wins the popular vote in WA. So she now technically needs 271 EVs to win.
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I don't understand how that can be. Aren't the elector slates chosen after the election?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
And some of you wondered what you'd be seeing on television all weekend ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8


Some of that B-role footage is bogeyman-scary-ominous Infowars worthy. :D
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I think that ad is fantastic. Right message (except the immigration b.s.), but wrong, wrong, wrong guy.

That's the most frustrating thing about all this. If this election was Jeb! against Bernie, we'd be running that ad (except the immigration b.s.). Virtually everything that ad says is correct. But the f-ckwit orangutan running it and the organized crime party he's the nominee of will do nothing but make everything 10x worse.

A huge blown chance.
 
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Kepler said:
I don't understand how that can be. Aren't the elector slates chosen after the election?
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Not in Minnesota, and I can't imagine we're alone in that regard. When the party files its candidate for president, they also file their list of EC voters should their candidate win.
 
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St. Clown said:
There's no great reason that the SCOTUS has to be a 9-seat body. It began as a 5-seat body for its first quorum in 1789 while the sixth was still under consideration by the Senate. It eventually grew to 10 justices by the 1860, only to then be shrunk to 7 by 1867 and returned to 9 in 1869. FDR threatened to add four more justices in the Court ruled against his New Deal laws. Nine isn't really a sacred number, Scooby.
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And while all that is true...would we be having this discussion if a Republican was set to win? Would the GOP be looking to lower the number? Hell no they consider 9 sacred when #9 is a Scalia type.

An even number is untenable...we need decisions made.
 
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St. Clown said:
Not in Minnesota, and I can't imagine we're alone in that regard. When the party files its candidate for president, they also file their list of EC voters should their candidate win.
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I'm sure you're right; I knew the party ran an election for its slate, and that could as easily be before the election. And now that I think of it I believe that when we vote we're really voting for our state elector slate, so yeah, you're right.

But I wonder if that means there are a ton of Faithless Electors hidden among the GOP slates. I believe Cruz was trying to load up on Never Trumpers.
 
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Handyman said:
And while all that is true...would we be having this discussion if a Republican was set to win? Would the GOP be looking to lower the number? Hell no they consider 9 sacred when #9 is a Scalia type.

An even number is untenable...we need decisions made.
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Well, ties are decisions -- they uphold the lower court.

But the larger point is the GOP are baldly vying to destroy the Court because they refuse to submit to the will of the people. They're domestic terrorists, nothing more.

The dead hand of the old order is still clutching on to power no matter who they hurt. The only way out is to blow right through them. The voters can do that. Republican voters don't have to follow their leaders into the abyss.
 
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rufus said:
You missed his point, which was sarcasm. The right's been making a huge thing all election season that you need to vote for them, so they can stop ISIS, unlike those treasonous democrats who created ISIS, cause over in the Middle East, ISIS is killing and beheading all the gheys, ISIS got no tolerance for those folk. Not like the compassionate and loving GOP.
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Are they in Mosul...cause Mosul is a mess. Mosul is a tremendous mess caused by Crooked Hillary Clinton and the idiots in the military. If Donald was in charge we never would have told the people of Mosul what was going on and Mosul would not be in the hands of ISIS. The disastrous Obama administration and Hillary Clinton created ISIS and Mosul and we need a tremendous change. If Donald is in charge we will get victories in Mosul, tremendous victories...the greatest victories Mosul has ever seen!
 
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Kepler said:
I'm sure you're right; I knew the party ran an election for its slate, and that could as easily be before the election. And now that I think of it I believe that when we vote we're really voting for our state elector slate, so yeah, you're right.

But I wonder if that means there are a ton of Faithless Electors hidden among the GOP slates. I believe Cruz was trying to load up on Never Trumpers.
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Was Cruz at all successful? When GWB won in 2004, a MN elector was making a statement for direct elections and chose not to cast her vote for Kerry (largely symbolic at that point), and instead cast it for one of the third-party candidates or one of the primary losers - I forget which now.
 
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Kepler said:
Well, ties are decisions -- they uphold the lower court.

But the larger point is the GOP are baldly vying to destroy the Court because they refuse to submit to the will of the people. They're domestic terrorists, nothing more.
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That is true...but I dont want the Supreme Court punting on some of these issues just because they are divided 4-4. I want them to make rulings and set things straight.

Speaking of that: Media Matters Calls Out Faux For How They Covered The Cop Shootings in Iowa

Basically they went from ripping Obama and blaming him and his "Anti-Cop" stances to almost no coverage when they found out it was a racist white guy who did it who is an avid Drumpf Supporter.
 
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MaizeRage said:
A Democratic elector from Washington state said he won't vote for Hillary even if she wins the popular vote in WA. So she now technically needs 271 EVs to win.
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He wont hold to it...
 
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Handyman said:
Are they in Mosul...cause Mosul is a mess. Mosul is a tremendous mess caused by Crooked Hillary Clinton and the idiots in the military. If Donald was in charge we never would have told the people of Mosul what was going on and Mosul would not be in the hands of ISIS. The disastrous Obama administration and Hillary Clinton created ISIS and Mosul and we need a tremendous change. If Donald is in charge we will get victories in Mosul, tremendous victories...the greatest victories Mosul has ever seen!
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Trump as Commander in Chief is the scariest part about him being elected.
 
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