Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

[St. Clown]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Au contraire. My sample size of 1 tells me that IA girls are totally awesome.

Sooo... you're the one who sucked in that relationship and that's why it ended?

 

[busterman62]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Where's the indictment then? She lied to the FBI and Congress. Both are criminal acts.

Same Source.

statement by Comey to Congress: “We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI.”

still the same source

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

still the same source

She can't be lying to the FBI and Congress and not lying at the same time. That's unpossible. That's really the point.

 

[Rover]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Ya know, you can beat a dead horse all day, but its still not going to get up and gallop away...

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Ok, then genius. Explain how he won the primary.

"Think of how stupid the average person is...and then realize, half of 'em are stupider than that!" -George Carlin

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Ya know, you can beat a dead horse all day, but its still not going to get up and gallop away...

I guess the bottom line for me is that you can't convince me she lied if she hasn't been indicted. Sorry, not going to happen.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Fareed Zakaria Calls Donald Trump A ‘Bulls**t Artist’ On Live Television

Nailed it.

Please, the term is "stand-up philosopher".

 

[Rover]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Also, I'll say again, Donald Trump won the primary because he perfectly represents the Republican party. Too many people want to claim it was a divided field or some such nonsense. In reality the nutter caucus (Trump-Cruz-Carson-etc) won like 2/3rds of the vote. The so called sane people (Kasich-Rubio-Jebbers!) got about 1/3rd if even that. Its like people want to convince themselves that Kasich would have beaten Trump one on one. Wake up already. If Trump didn't win Cruz who's just as nuts would have.

 

[busterman62]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

She can't be lying to the FBI and Congress and not lying at the same time. That's unpossible. That's really the point.

She did not lie to Congress or the FBI. She does however continue to lie to the public, at least in mine and the Washington Post's opinion. Were her actions criminal? Not in my opinion or the FBI's. Does that make it acceptable? Not to me. Not indicted but incompetent.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted. I believe that was the reason she used her own server (and before you start in that previous SOS did also, times/rules/threats/technology changed considerably over that time frame). IMO, the current events just shows us what we're in store for in the coming 4-8years. We're going to look back at the GWB & BO years as ones of bipartisanship and cooperation when compared to what we're in store for. And even how bad that will be is better than the other possibility.

 

[Rover]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

She did not lie to Congress or the FBI. She does however continue to lie to the public, at least in mine and the Washington Post's opinion. Were her actions criminal? Not in my opinion or the FBI's. Does that make it acceptable? Not to me. Not indicted but incompetent.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted. I believe that was the reason she used her own server (and before you start in that previous SOS did also, times/rules/threats/technology changed considerably over that time frame). IMO, the current events just shows us what we're in store for in the coming 4-8years. We're going to look back at the GWB & BO years as ones of bipartisanship and cooperation when compared to what we're in store for. And even how bad that will be is better than the other possibility.

Who cares? We should give in to people drumming up false accusations so they'll stop doing it? Yeah, like that ever works. What's that expression about not giving in to terrorists?

There's two things that I'm looking forward to most in a Clinton Presidency that have little to do with anything Hillary will or won't do while in office. First, completing the liberal takeover of the federal court system including the SCOTUS is going to be a thing of beauty. As right wing laws get overturned on a daily basis, what's not to love? Second, her as Prez p isses off all the right people. It humiliates the right wing conspiracy complex as impotent in front of the entire nation. The absolute last person they wanted as President won. It would be the equivalent of the country electing Dick Cheney President from the perspective of a lefty.

 

[unofan]

She did not lie to Congress or the FBI. She does however continue to lie to the public, at least in mine and the Washington Post's opinion. Were her actions criminal? Not in my opinion or the FBI's. Does that make it acceptable? Not to me. Not indicted but incompetent.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted. I believe that was the reason she used her own server (and before you start in that previous SOS did also, times/rules/threats/technology changed considerably over that time frame). IMO, the current events just shows us what we're in store for in the coming 4-8years. We're going to look back at the GWB & BO years as ones of bipartisanship and cooperation when compared to what we're in store for. And even how bad that will be is better than the other possibility.

Is it really paranoia when the right wing hate radio machine has literally been out to get her for the better part of 25 years? How many fake scandals has she already endured?

And incompetent is one of the last words I'd use to describe her; even her rivals acknowledge her skills and ability to do get things done.

 

[BassAle]

Not even Susan Collins?

I have voted for Susan Collins (once), I don't know if I can again. If she endorses Hillary I might.

Edit: Actually, I'm not sure if I have ever voted for her. I know I didn't last two times she was up for reelection for her senate seat. It's possible I did in 2002, but I'm having doubts about that.

 

[burd]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

She did not lie to Congress or the FBI. She does however continue to lie to the public, at least in mine and the Washington Post's opinion. Were her actions criminal? Not in my opinion or the FBI's. Does that make it acceptable? Not to me. Not indicted but incompetent.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted. I believe that was the reason she used her own server (and before you start in that previous SOS did also, times/rules/threats/technology changed considerably over that time frame). IMO, the current events just shows us what we're in store for in the coming 4-8years. We're going to look back at the GWB & BO years as ones of bipartisanship and cooperation when compared to what we're in store for. And even how bad that will be is better than the other possibility.

That's the mindset of someone Trump will prey on. He's a carnival barker, and he's counting on you to be a sucker, which you appear to be. I suggest you put your wallet back in your pants if you want to walk away with anything. Better yet, check your facts.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Well, you may think she lied to the public and to me, but I don't. It's all semantics. I'm smart enough to weed through the riff raff.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

Hillary's going to win, but I don't think she is going to have Obama's EV numbers. She is just too hated by the sort of old, white men who will come out in droves to vote, not necessarily for Trump, but against her. I predict she will lose Florida (too many old white people, and not enough retired New Yawker Jews to offset them), and maybe even Nevada, but as long as she hangs onto Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, and PA, that is all that really matters.

Colorado should be a piece of cake - Denver has been flooded with young liberals for years, even moreso since the green became legal. I don't understand how PA is currently considered a swing state, I guess Pennsyltucky really is a thing. Regardless, I don't see Trump flipping that one - it's been a blue state since 1992. Kaine and the flow of young liberal-ish DC stiffs into NoVA should lockup Virginia. Assuming she loses FL and NV, New Hampster does it's once-a-decade flip to red, and leaving Ohio undecided, I've got it at 259-261.

Ohio, you're going to see a political ad on TV every 2 minutes for the next 3 months. SorryNotSorry.

 

[busterman62]

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Is it really paranoia when the right wing hate radio machine has literally been out to get her for the better part of 25 years? How many fake scandals has she already endured?

And incompetent is one of the last words I'd use to describe her; even her rivals acknowledge her skills and ability to do get things done.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted.

I've conceded that many of the threats are real. Will you concede that many are perceived or self-inflicted?

 

[GrinCDXX]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

She did not lie to Congress or the FBI. She does however continue to lie to the public, at least in mine and the Washington Post's opinion. Were her actions criminal? Not in my opinion or the FBI's. Does that make it acceptable? Not to me. Not indicted but incompetent.

IMO, HRC is paranoid to a Nixonian level of threats real, perceived and self-inflicted. I believe that was the reason she used her own server (and before you start in that previous SOS did also, times/rules/threats/technology changed considerably over that time frame). IMO, the current events just shows us what we're in store for in the coming 4-8years. We're going to look back at the GWB & BO years as ones of bipartisanship and cooperation when compared to what we're in store for. And even how bad that will be is better than the other possibility.

Yeah, and that will be because of Clinton

 

[unofan]

Hillary's going to win, but I don't think she is going to have Obama's EV numbers. She is just too hated by the sort of old, white men who will come out in droves to vote, not necessarily for Trump, but against her. I predict she will lose Florida (too many old white people, and not enough retired New Yawker Jews to offset them), and maybe even Nevada, but as long as she hangs onto Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, and PA, that is all that really matters.

Colorado should be a piece of cake - Denver has been flooded with young liberals for years, even moreso since the green became legal. I don't understand how PA is currently considered a swing state, I guess Pennsyltucky really is a thing. Regardless, I don't see Trump flipping that one - it's been a blue state since 1992. Kaine and the flow of young liberal-ish DC stiffs into NoVA should lockup Virginia. Assuming she loses FL and NV, New Hampster does it's once-a-decade flip to red, and leaving Ohio undecided, I've got it at 259-261.

Ohio, you're going to see a political ad on TV every 2 minutes for the next 3 months. SorryNotSorry.

Going to see? We've already been getting them in Iowa for the better part of the whole farking year.

 

[busterman62]

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Well, you may think she lied to the public and to me, but I don't. It's all semantics. I'm smart enough to weed through the riff raff.

"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is"

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[unofan]

I've conceded that many of the threats are real. Will you concede that many are perceived or self-inflicted?

I don't see her as particularly paranoid, so no.

If all you're saying she's had some self-inflicted damage, I'll agree to that. But then show me a politician who hasn't.