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Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
I'm warming up to Rand Paul a bit.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/08/politics/rand-paul-abortion-democrats/
Not that the media would ever ask such questions of the Dems, but it's nice to see someone push back at the poor excuse for media we have in this country.
I'm warming up to Rand Paul a bit.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/08/politics/rand-paul-abortion-democrats/
Not that the media would ever ask such questions of the Dems, but it's nice to see someone push back at the poor excuse for media we have in this country.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
What a crock. Dems get asked all the time. Debbie got asked just like Rand wanted her to get asked and she answered it. Rand Paul's a fraud.
What a crock. Dems get asked all the time. Debbie got asked just like Rand wanted her to get asked and she answered it. Rand Paul's a fraud.
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Agreed. Bob was getting tired of hanging on the cross he'd been nailed to since last week and decided to erect a new one.
Not that he didn't deserve it, but how much scrutiny did Kerry get over his changing positions? How quickly we forget...
To joecct's point, I'm not totally kidding about Biden filling a Hillary void. He's far more personable than either Obama or Hillary, and really he can afford to lose several Obama states and still win the Presidency if he holds onto say Ohio, a place his working class Irish roots ought to play well in (give him PA since he's originally from there). Plus, you have to admire his ability to dominate a debate. Could Cruz hold his own one on one in front of the cameras? Sure, I suppose so, but what would Biden do with Walker? Or W's kid brother? Or Rand Paul and is nutty positions? My guess is Uncle Joe isn't nearly as interesting in having a "conversation" like Obama was vs Mittens....
Agreed. Bob was getting tired of hanging on the cross he'd been nailed to since last week and decided to erect a new one.
Not that he didn't deserve it, but how much scrutiny did Kerry get over his changing positions? How quickly we forget...
To joecct's point, I'm not totally kidding about Biden filling a Hillary void. He's far more personable than either Obama or Hillary, and really he can afford to lose several Obama states and still win the Presidency if he holds onto say Ohio, a place his working class Irish roots ought to play well in (give him PA since he's originally from there). Plus, you have to admire his ability to dominate a debate. Could Cruz hold his own one on one in front of the cameras? Sure, I suppose so, but what would Biden do with Walker? Or W's kid brother? Or Rand Paul and is nutty positions? My guess is Uncle Joe isn't nearly as interesting in having a "conversation" like Obama was vs Mittens....
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Yup, there's such a history of Dem candidates being asked about the difficult aspects of their abortion positions. But, yah, when your guys are used to getting an easy pass, you aren't going to want that to change. No question about that.Agreed. Bob was getting tired of hanging on the cross he'd been nailed to since last week and decided to erect a new one.
Not that he didn't deserve it, but how much scrutiny did Kerry get over his changing positions? How quickly we forget...
To joecct's point, I'm not totally kidding about Biden filling a Hillary void. He's far more personable than either Obama or Hillary, and really he can afford to lose several Obama states and still win the Presidency if he holds onto say Ohio, a place his working class Irish roots ought to play well in (give him PA since he's originally from there). Plus, you have to admire his ability to dominate a debate. Could Cruz hold his own one on one in front of the cameras? Sure, I suppose so, but what would Biden do with Walker? Or W's kid brother? Or Rand Paul and is nutty positions? My guess is Uncle Joe isn't nearly as interesting in having a "conversation" like Obama was vs Mittens....
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
On the GOP wooing of the Jews: don't be silly. Every time the GOP opens up their vacuous maw about "liberal intellectuals," they lose a hundred times the number of Jews that they gain through their Likudnik drag act. Jews have heard the stirring "heartland" theme any number of times in their history, and they know it means run for the attics. The Goobers' only Jewish fans are Neocons, and that's not nearly enough.
On Biden: don't be silly. Handsome Joe is a great guy to have as your veep or your uncle, but he's a caretaker, and we're entering a transitional period. His demographic appeal is to old, white, lower middle class Irish Catholics who are solidly Republican. He'd be a total loser as a candidate.
On abortion: be my guest to make that a major campaign theme, particularly running against a woman. I'm sure you'll enjoy losing 51% of the electorate by 30 points. Throw in the scourge of homosexuality while you're at it. I'm not sure that would even win a majority of Catholic votes anymore, let alone the entire nation.
On Paul: any time he spends not hammering the rest of the GOP field on corporate welfare is time wasted. It's his gig. He needs to dig deep into the Tea Party hatred of the banksters and embarrass Jeb et al. for their associations. He's not getting anywhere talking about social issues; he doesn't have the chops.
On the GOP wooing of the Jews: don't be silly. Every time the GOP opens up their vacuous maw about "liberal intellectuals," they lose a hundred times the number of Jews that they gain through their Likudnik drag act. Jews have heard the stirring "heartland" theme any number of times in their history, and they know it means run for the attics. The Goobers' only Jewish fans are Neocons, and that's not nearly enough.
On Biden: don't be silly. Handsome Joe is a great guy to have as your veep or your uncle, but he's a caretaker, and we're entering a transitional period. His demographic appeal is to old, white, lower middle class Irish Catholics who are solidly Republican. He'd be a total loser as a candidate.
On abortion: be my guest to make that a major campaign theme, particularly running against a woman. I'm sure you'll enjoy losing 51% of the electorate by 30 points. Throw in the scourge of homosexuality while you're at it. I'm not sure that would even win a majority of Catholic votes anymore, let alone the entire nation.
On Paul: any time he spends not hammering the rest of the GOP field on corporate welfare is time wasted. It's his gig. He needs to dig deep into the Tea Party hatred of the banksters and embarrass Jeb et al. for their associations. He's not getting anywhere talking about social issues; he doesn't have the chops.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
I find it disingenuous that Rand Paul, a Duke-educated physician and alleged champion of the "libertarian" wing, would support government interference in people's private medical decisions.
I find it disingenuous that Rand Paul, a Duke-educated physician and alleged champion of the "libertarian" wing, would support government interference in people's private medical decisions.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
His dad at least is from that strange wing of the big 'L' Libertarians who are big fans of Jeebus. I don't know where Rand stands on it, but I assume he can count and understands that you don't win a Republican nomination being pro-choice. Property rights, yes. Reproductive rights, no. I mean, they're not even in the Bible or anything.
His dad at least is from that strange wing of the big 'L' Libertarians who are big fans of Jeebus. I don't know where Rand stands on it, but I assume he can count and understands that you don't win a Republican nomination being pro-choice. Property rights, yes. Reproductive rights, no. I mean, they're not even in the Bible or anything.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
They're not difficult positions at all. In fact, Dems support the things that reduce abortions the most. Repubs waste all their oxygen on making it illegal while at the same time slashing funding for women's Health Care.
But , you crawl right up on that cross.
They're not difficult positions at all. In fact, Dems support the things that reduce abortions the most. Repubs waste all their oxygen on making it illegal while at the same time slashing funding for women's Health Care.
But , you crawl right up on that cross.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Alex Jones is also one of those big fans of Jeebus.
It's one of the sad points where two parties have an effective monopoly, and they're both the same fascist folk. Rand Paul will get shut out of the nomination because he is a libertarian, and they will push a fascist establishment GOP candidate. As to who, I'm not sure.
I'm still not counting out martial law happening and the 2016 elections being suspended, thereby keeping Obozo in office for life.
Alex Jones is also one of those big fans of Jeebus.
It's one of the sad points where two parties have an effective monopoly, and they're both the same fascist folk. Rand Paul will get shut out of the nomination because he is a libertarian, and they will push a fascist establishment GOP candidate. As to who, I'm not sure.
I'm still not counting out martial law happening and the 2016 elections being suspended, thereby keeping Obozo in office for life.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Dems actually support choosing to not have sex? Could have fooled me, given the blithering from some of your cohorts...
Dems actually support choosing to not have sex? Could have fooled me, given the blithering from some of your cohorts...
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
His other big thing, though I've not followed him in recent months, was hammering away against more American money/lives spent on wars. I don't know if that rhetoric has been eschewed to garner more support from his base, but it was something I genuinely liked about the man.
His other big thing, though I've not followed him in recent months, was hammering away against more American money/lives spent on wars. I don't know if that rhetoric has been eschewed to garner more support from his base, but it was something I genuinely liked about the man.
P
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Quite a few refuse to have children because of the population explosion and the harm humans are doing to the ecosystem. Not that they're choosing not to have sex...they're choosing to use protection.
Quite a few refuse to have children because of the population explosion and the harm humans are doing to the ecosystem. Not that they're choosing not to have sex...they're choosing to use protection.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Maybe it's just my troubled libertarian logic, but it seems to me that the only way to 100% make sure that you are physically not going to have a baby is to not have sex. But hey, if those loony environmentalists want to choose not to reproduce, I'm willing to be patient and let their kind die out.
Maybe it's just my troubled libertarian logic, but it seems to me that the only way to 100% make sure that you are physically not going to have a baby is to not have sex. But hey, if those loony environmentalists want to choose not to reproduce, I'm willing to be patient and let their kind die out.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Vasectomy. Or tying of the tubes. While both procedures can technically fail, it's highly unlikely that they will.
Vasectomy. Or tying of the tubes. While both procedures can technically fail, it's highly unlikely that they will.
If our ancestors had that attitude they would not be our ancestors.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Falls under corporate welfare. Military spending is just another giveaway to the 1%.
Falls under corporate welfare. Military spending is just another giveaway to the 1%.
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
That's blatantly unfair. Some of us are only 2%-ers.
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