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Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
OK, I'll bite, what meme created the asterisk next to "Yale"?
OK, I'll bite, what meme created the asterisk next to "Yale"?
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Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
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Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
A) Wishing and hoping that the Cahill situation turns into an actual scandal, which it won't.
B) He thinks he's clever.
A) Wishing and hoping that the Cahill situation turns into an actual scandal, which it won't.
B) He thinks he's clever.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Which is why every team is wearing patches this year celebrating the league's 29th anniversary, right?
Which is why every team is wearing patches this year celebrating the league's 29th anniversary, right?
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Not known for taking the high road, Yale Coach Keith "Please, don't ever accuse me of being classy" Allain stated after the January 16 game:
“(The Zolnierczyk line) is a good line, and they play them all the time. But we’ve got lines that we think are better.” (New Haven Register story)
There's no question that Yale has far more depth than Brown. But it's also a fact that Harry Zolnierczyk outskated two Yale defenders for the winning goal.
Not known for taking the high road, Yale Coach Keith "Please, don't ever accuse me of being classy" Allain stated after the January 16 game:
“(The Zolnierczyk line) is a good line, and they play them all the time. But we’ve got lines that we think are better.” (New Haven Register story)
There's no question that Yale has far more depth than Brown. But it's also a fact that Harry Zolnierczyk outskated two Yale defenders for the winning goal.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
This is incorrect. The ECAC hockey league was formed in the mid-1960s. In the early 1980s Boston University, Boston College, Providence College, Northeastern University, the University of New Hampshire, and the University of Maine left ECAC hockey to form Hockey East.
This is incorrect. The ECAC hockey league was formed in the mid-1960s. In the early 1980s Boston University, Boston College, Providence College, Northeastern University, the University of New Hampshire, and the University of Maine left ECAC hockey to form Hockey East.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
I'm surprised that someone with a potential misunderstanding of transitivity hasn't already started a thread about this one...
I'm surprised that someone with a potential misunderstanding of transitivity hasn't already started a thread about this one...
Waterboy66
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Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
I am pretty certain Allain with always think he has better lines than the Brown top line, but I am not sure the facts actually bear that out (pun intended).
Browns top line is generally Zolniercyk, Maclellan coupled with a freshman (Hathaway, Goldberg) but has included the sophmore Zaires. Browns top scorers are easily equalling the Yale top scorer output (noting that Yale is definitely deeper) despite the fact that Yale has had a 'softer' non-conference schedule. I wonder what Browns top line numbers might be if they had the opportunity to play Sacred Heart and Holy Cross.
Looking at this weekend's numbers, in scoring Zolniercyk put up the most points of all players (both teams), and the Brown top line was a collective +7, while the Yale top line was a -4. I think the head-to-head data raises some questions about Allains beliefs.
No question the Yale team is talented and deep. They are scary with speed and skill, but that's not all it takes to create a great team. I think Allain is doing the players a bit of disservice with such a 'soft' out of conference schedule. It raises all kinds of questions like the ones above.
At the same time, I thought Whittet was a bit crazy with the Brown out-of-conference schedule this year, but he has made me a believer. But I guess that's why he's the coach and we are just chipping in comments from the 'cheap seats'.
I am pretty certain Allain with always think he has better lines than the Brown top line, but I am not sure the facts actually bear that out (pun intended).
Browns top line is generally Zolniercyk, Maclellan coupled with a freshman (Hathaway, Goldberg) but has included the sophmore Zaires. Browns top scorers are easily equalling the Yale top scorer output (noting that Yale is definitely deeper) despite the fact that Yale has had a 'softer' non-conference schedule. I wonder what Browns top line numbers might be if they had the opportunity to play Sacred Heart and Holy Cross.
Looking at this weekend's numbers, in scoring Zolniercyk put up the most points of all players (both teams), and the Brown top line was a collective +7, while the Yale top line was a -4. I think the head-to-head data raises some questions about Allains beliefs.
No question the Yale team is talented and deep. They are scary with speed and skill, but that's not all it takes to create a great team. I think Allain is doing the players a bit of disservice with such a 'soft' out of conference schedule. It raises all kinds of questions like the ones above.
At the same time, I thought Whittet was a bit crazy with the Brown out-of-conference schedule this year, but he has made me a believer. But I guess that's why he's the coach and we are just chipping in comments from the 'cheap seats'.
Ralph Baer
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Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Some of us were quite appalled with Giles Threadgold also. He was standard by which incompetent officiating was measured for many years.
Some of us were quite appalled with Giles Threadgold also. He was standard by which incompetent officiating was measured for many years.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Just noting how Yale's* wins this year should be vacated due to the Cahill fiasco.
Just noting how Yale's* wins this year should be vacated due to the Cahill fiasco.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
On behalf of all Brown fans I apologize for this post. I'm hoping this post was just a result of the poster smashing his face into the keyboard and not an attempt at rational thought.
On behalf of all Brown fans I apologize for this post. I'm hoping this post was just a result of the poster smashing his face into the keyboard and not an attempt at rational thought.
DarthBruno
The Force is with Brown hockey.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
No, it was formed in 1961 and included 28 teams then.
Source: http://www.ecachockey.com/men/history/M_timeline.pdf
No, it was formed in 1961 and included 28 teams then.
Source: http://www.ecachockey.com/men/history/M_timeline.pdf
DarthBruno
The Force is with Brown hockey.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
I know, right? When I saw BU on our schedule, I thought: WHAT??? Not so crazy, I guess.
I know, right? When I saw BU on our schedule, I thought: WHAT??? Not so crazy, I guess.
DarthBruno
The Force is with Brown hockey.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Ha ha. He wasn't popular with fans, for sure! Giles was tough in an era when the rules were looser and a much higher level of hard contact and fisticuffs was tolerated, so everyone complained about him. The old cheer (backed by band music) "Eat it ref!" rocked Meehan in those days.
Yeah, he could be a bit "cuckoo" too and obviously loved hamming it up on the ice. But he generally didn't yack everyone to death like so many of today's refs do -- I think they are wannabe coaches. Giles was pretty much all business.
Some of us were quite appalled with Giles Threadgold also. He was standard by which incompetent officiating was measured for many years.
Ha ha. He wasn't popular with fans, for sure! Giles was tough in an era when the rules were looser and a much higher level of hard contact and fisticuffs was tolerated, so everyone complained about him. The old cheer (backed by band music) "Eat it ref!" rocked Meehan in those days.
Yeah, he could be a bit "cuckoo" too and obviously loved hamming it up on the ice. But he generally didn't yack everyone to death like so many of today's refs do -- I think they are wannabe coaches. Giles was pretty much all business.
DarthBruno
The Force is with Brown hockey.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Oh man. Stay classy there, Coach Allain. How about trying this instead, "The Zolnierczyk line is one of the best in the country right now, and today we simply couldn't contain them well enough to beat Brown." That's a bit more to the point.
Oh man. Stay classy there, Coach Allain. How about trying this instead, "The Zolnierczyk line is one of the best in the country right now, and today we simply couldn't contain them well enough to beat Brown." That's a bit more to the point.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
The Cahill "fiasco" was nothing but a poor attempt by an inept reporter to stir the pot. It's now old news as Yale was cleared by the NCAA on Saturday. Get with the times Onion Man.
The Cahill "fiasco" was nothing but a poor attempt by an inept reporter to stir the pot. It's now old news as Yale was cleared by the NCAA on Saturday. Get with the times Onion Man.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
So let me get this straight...
Brown BEAT the #1 team in the nation, and our fans are talking about atrocious officiating and Yale's supposed "scandal" that they were cleared on. BrunoFan00's right - the story is more about Clemente (and the other Bears) than anything else.
I say we savor this moment. It's becoming more and more apparent that Brown knows how to play up to opponents. Need to keep momentum going in their favor when taking on opponents they now "should" beat. Not for nothing, but there's no excuse to tie BU and UNH, beat BU and Yale.... and lose to a team like Clarkson down the road (no disrespect to Knights fans).
That said, Brown is starting to gain traction against teams like Yale. They see them enough throughout the year to play strong against them, and the familiarity breeds an ability to beat them. I'm sure they will see each other down the road again at some point in the ECAC playoffs. Fans deserve it since it's developing into a great rivalry.
So let me get this straight...
Brown BEAT the #1 team in the nation, and our fans are talking about atrocious officiating and Yale's supposed "scandal" that they were cleared on. BrunoFan00's right - the story is more about Clemente (and the other Bears) than anything else.
I say we savor this moment. It's becoming more and more apparent that Brown knows how to play up to opponents. Need to keep momentum going in their favor when taking on opponents they now "should" beat. Not for nothing, but there's no excuse to tie BU and UNH, beat BU and Yale.... and lose to a team like Clarkson down the road (no disrespect to Knights fans).
That said, Brown is starting to gain traction against teams like Yale. They see them enough throughout the year to play strong against them, and the familiarity breeds an ability to beat them. I'm sure they will see each other down the road again at some point in the ECAC playoffs. Fans deserve it since it's developing into a great rivalry.
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Nope - tired of seeing Clemente stand on his head...hasn't this guy graduated already?!?
Good win for you guys...
Nope - tired of seeing Clemente stand on his head...hasn't this guy graduated already?!?
Good win for you guys...
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Sorry- he's only a junior
Unfortunately, he only seems to show up against you guys and BU :/ We've been praying for more consistency for his entire career.
Sorry- he's only a junior
Unfortunately, he only seems to show up against you guys and BU :/ We've been praying for more consistency for his entire career.
Re: Brown Hockey 2010-2011 - Onward and Upward
Interestingly enough, Harry Z is a humble, gracious, and calm personality on camera. I just watched the postgame interviews of him, Coach Whittet, and Mike Clemente on the Brown athletic site and was surprised that his personality does not seem to be a reflection of his energetic, intense, and aggressive style of play (to say the least).
Interestingly enough, Harry Z is a humble, gracious, and calm personality on camera. I just watched the postgame interviews of him, Coach Whittet, and Mike Clemente on the Brown athletic site and was surprised that his personality does not seem to be a reflection of his energetic, intense, and aggressive style of play (to say the least).