Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
I was confining the list to people in the here and now but point taken.
I was confining the list to people in the here and now but point taken.
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Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
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ticapnews
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Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
The European Court of Justice has already ruled that at any point prior to 29 March the UK can unilaterally rescind Article 50.
The European Court of Justice has already ruled that at any point prior to 29 March the UK can unilaterally rescind Article 50.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
Do we count Maduro as left? He seems to be well out of his depth in his role, even though he was supposedly an excellent administration guy lower down. (Chávez OTOH was quite competent as he managed to stick his middle finger in the big dumb eye of The New World Order without getting Dole Pineappled).
Do we count Maduro as left? He seems to be well out of his depth in his role, even though he was supposedly an excellent administration guy lower down. (Chávez OTOH was quite competent as he managed to stick his middle finger in the big dumb eye of The New World Order without getting Dole Pineappled).
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
Was the EU just keeping the pressure on the UK by saying they would not rescind?
It sure seems like it would be a seriously expensive point to make on general principles. Could they simply say, "just like Dumpy this was the work of the Russians conning our stupids, so we're rolling it back"?
At some point we're just going to have to disenfranchise the stupids. Slap a barely minimal (say, 1200) SAT requirement on the right to vote. Democracy doesn't mean being pulled over the cliff by the mental and moral deadweight.
Was the EU just keeping the pressure on the UK by saying they would not rescind?
It sure seems like it would be a seriously expensive point to make on general principles. Could they simply say, "just like Dumpy this was the work of the Russians conning our stupids, so we're rolling it back"?
At some point we're just going to have to disenfranchise the stupids. Slap a barely minimal (say, 1200) SAT requirement on the right to vote. Democracy doesn't mean being pulled over the cliff by the mental and moral deadweight.
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
I think the problem for the EU is any country looking for their own side deal would threaten to leave and then rescind at the last minute if nobody called their bluff.
I think the problem for the EU is any country looking for their own side deal would threaten to leave and then rescind at the last minute if nobody called their bluff.
ticapnews
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Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
We're supposed to go to Scotland next month to celebrate my mom's 75th birthday at my grandfather's ancestral home. We are flying into Heathrow and then to Glasgow. My mom found this news on the BBC website and now she doesn't want to go. Thanks Brexiteers.
We're supposed to go to Scotland next month to celebrate my mom's 75th birthday at my grandfather's ancestral home. We are flying into Heathrow and then to Glasgow. My mom found this news on the BBC website and now she doesn't want to go. Thanks Brexiteers.
ticapnews
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Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
There's two different issues. The UK can unilaterally *rescind* Article 50, they cannot unilaterally *extend* the declaration. An extension (which the UK will probably seek before week's end) has to be agreed to by all 27 members of the EU. The UK better come up with a good reason to ask for an extension other than just kicking the can down the road. It is interesting that May said yesterday after the vote that it would be up to Parliament to explain why the UK needs the extension. In all of her previous messages it was "I, I, I" now it's "You, you, you."
There's two different issues. The UK can unilaterally *rescind* Article 50, they cannot unilaterally *extend* the declaration. An extension (which the UK will probably seek before week's end) has to be agreed to by all 27 members of the EU. The UK better come up with a good reason to ask for an extension other than just kicking the can down the road. It is interesting that May said yesterday after the vote that it would be up to Parliament to explain why the UK needs the extension. In all of her previous messages it was "I, I, I" now it's "You, you, you."
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
I'm not sure about the logic behind that. Why cancel?
We're supposed to go to Scotland next month to celebrate my mom's 75th birthday at my grandfather's ancestral home. We are flying into Heathrow and then to Glasgow. My mom found this news on the BBC website and now she doesn't want to go. Thanks Brexiteers.
I'm not sure about the logic behind that. Why cancel?
ticapnews
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Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
She's afraid that there will be an attack or a bomb or something while we're at Heathrow, or at the airport in Glasgow, or something else. The odds of something like that happening are infinitesimal but try telling her that. I went to Rome, Naples and Athens when I was in high school shortly after terrorist attacks had rocked all three cities. When we landed in Rome there were tanks on the runway and soldiers with Uzis and German Shepherds in muzzles were patrolling the airport. I was fine. We're not canceling (yet) but if the situation gets worse we probably will.
She's afraid that there will be an attack or a bomb or something while we're at Heathrow, or at the airport in Glasgow, or something else. The odds of something like that happening are infinitesimal but try telling her that. I went to Rome, Naples and Athens when I was in high school shortly after terrorist attacks had rocked all three cities. When we landed in Rome there were tanks on the runway and soldiers with Uzis and German Shepherds in muzzles were patrolling the airport. I was fine. We're not canceling (yet) but if the situation gets worse we probably will.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
Ah gotcha. I missed that jump. For some stupid reason, I had assumed you were referring to the passport and customs process.
Sorry about that.
I hope you still go. Like you said, the odds of something happening even in a heightened state of unrest are still extremely low. When I was traveling to Europe last year, I had to try to calm my mom's fears about terrorist attacks and me being caught up in one. I know it's not the same situation, but I can sort of relate. It sucks. I remember back in high school when I was over in either Budapest or Prague, there was one building, which I seem to remember being a concert hall or opera house, that was being guarded by APCs and heavily armed troops. I can still picture the street corner. I probably should have been more scared, but I don't recall being particularly upset by it. Chalk that up to being a stupid teenager I guess.
Anyways, I really hope you get to go.
Ah gotcha. I missed that jump. For some stupid reason, I had assumed you were referring to the passport and customs process.
Sorry about that.I hope you still go. Like you said, the odds of something happening even in a heightened state of unrest are still extremely low. When I was traveling to Europe last year, I had to try to calm my mom's fears about terrorist attacks and me being caught up in one. I know it's not the same situation, but I can sort of relate. It sucks. I remember back in high school when I was over in either Budapest or Prague, there was one building, which I seem to remember being a concert hall or opera house, that was being guarded by APCs and heavily armed troops. I can still picture the street corner. I probably should have been more scared, but I don't recall being particularly upset by it. Chalk that up to being a stupid teenager I guess.
Anyways, I really hope you get to go.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
If anything it's probably safer. You know what day not to attempt your terrorist attack in DC? The day when big protests are in town, because then each one of our 5 different levels of law enforcement is bulked up.
If anything it's probably safer. You know what day not to attempt your terrorist attack in DC? The day when big protests are in town, because then each one of our 5 different levels of law enforcement is bulked up.
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
Poop or get off the crapper
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47562995
Poop or get off the crapper
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47562995
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
That's a weird vote. It's like while you're falling you vote to not hit the ground.
Are they just trying to rig a democratic fig leaf before they blow off the referendum and tell the people they're too dumb to have self-determination? Like putting a 5150 on an entire country?
That's a weird vote. It's like while you're falling you vote to not hit the ground.
Are they just trying to rig a democratic fig leaf before they blow off the referendum and tell the people they're too dumb to have self-determination? Like putting a 5150 on an entire country?
This is like watching a loved one dying of a prolonged illness (been there). Pull the plug for cripes sake!
ticapnews
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Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
That's a growing possibility. Although they won't say the people are too stupid (telling your voters they're morons isn't the best election strategy, although it worked for Sniffles) they'll say the referendum was non-binding. Then May rescinds Article 50 and retires to whatever paradise she chooses while the rest of Parliament are left to pick up the pieces.
That's a growing possibility. Although they won't say the people are too stupid (telling your voters they're morons isn't the best election strategy, although it worked for Sniffles) they'll say the referendum was non-binding. Then May rescinds Article 50 and retires to whatever paradise she chooses while the rest of Parliament are left to pick up the pieces.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??
All exiles are distinguished / More important, they're not dead
All exiles are distinguished / More important, they're not dead
The quote I saw today from some EU official was that it's like the crew of the Titanic voting that the iceburg must move.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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