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Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with us?
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KnightsOfTheRound
Hockey Knight in Boston
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
I was thinking the same thing. No news is good news!
I was thinking the same thing. No news is good news!
Harry Cleverly
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
A very interesting investigative article into the downward spiral of an iconic college sports program -- in this case, UCLA Basketball.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/3.html
Any parallels drawn are purely coincidental.
A very interesting investigative article into the downward spiral of an iconic college sports program -- in this case, UCLA Basketball.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/3.html
Any parallels drawn are purely coincidental.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Sad story there, Howland never should've left Pitt. I don't see comparisons between UCLA and BU, though. While we've had our fair share of underwhelming seasons lately, we haven't dipped to the level they've reached of consistent sub .500 years in a TERRIBLE conference, where they were finishing near the bottom. The Pac-12 might get one or two teams in the tournament this year, including the auto-bid. At least we were still performing marginally, though still below expectation, in one of the two best conferences in the nation. Also, while we've had our fair share of players that have put in half-efforts, and not really cared as much as they should at times, I can't think of any that I'd label as actively trying to injure teammates and making an effort to hurt the team. Plus, I cannot imagine Parker ever letting a guy get away with showing up to a practice drunk and/or stoned with absolutely no punishment. Howland has totally lost control of his players and the program out there. For all of his faults, the same parallels cannot be drawn to Parker here.
Sad story there, Howland never should've left Pitt. I don't see comparisons between UCLA and BU, though. While we've had our fair share of underwhelming seasons lately, we haven't dipped to the level they've reached of consistent sub .500 years in a TERRIBLE conference, where they were finishing near the bottom. The Pac-12 might get one or two teams in the tournament this year, including the auto-bid. At least we were still performing marginally, though still below expectation, in one of the two best conferences in the nation. Also, while we've had our fair share of players that have put in half-efforts, and not really cared as much as they should at times, I can't think of any that I'd label as actively trying to injure teammates and making an effort to hurt the team. Plus, I cannot imagine Parker ever letting a guy get away with showing up to a practice drunk and/or stoned with absolutely no punishment. Howland has totally lost control of his players and the program out there. For all of his faults, the same parallels cannot be drawn to Parker here.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Tough to argue with the results without Charles, but he made the hot list this week. Thought it might be worth posting for any of his fans (were there any?):
Tough to argue with the results without Charles, but he made the hot list this week. Thought it might be worth posting for any of his fans (were there any?):
DaveStPaul
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Hear hear.
Heck, there's not even a BU-NU thread yet. Think I'll get that started so we can all get to know one another again.
Hear hear.
Heck, there's not even a BU-NU thread yet. Think I'll get that started so we can all get to know one another again.
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Still would be a better team with Coyle no doubt.
Still would be a better team with Coyle no doubt.
Harry Cleverly
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Would have a more talented group of individuals, no doubt.
A better team?
They've played better - AS A TEAM - since he abandoned ship.
Would have a more talented group of individuals, no doubt.
A better team?
They've played better - AS A TEAM - since he abandoned ship.
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
So you insinuate that Coyle leaving has caused the team to play better? By what rationale?
So you insinuate that Coyle leaving has caused the team to play better? By what rationale?
sterlippo1
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
addition by subtraction
I dont pretend to have a clue but something was amiss...........
addition by subtraction
I dont pretend to have a clue but something was amiss...........Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
I guess my point is that there was never any knowledge of Coyle being a negative personality on the team. My guess (and we're all guessing) is that the team came together more because of Trivino's arrest/dismissal from the team.
addition by subtraction
I guess my point is that there was never any knowledge of Coyle being a negative personality on the team. My guess (and we're all guessing) is that the team came together more because of Trivino's arrest/dismissal from the team.
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Preface: I love this team and this current collection of players, no doubt the adversity has brought them together, but they also haven't taken the us against the world approach where they become less social with the general public (not just females)
Those saying this team is playing better now is absolute revisionist history, was Coyle playing like a first round draft pick and taking over games, or even shifts? Not to my eyes. Was Nicastro having an All-American year? Nope. Trivino had the most goals, but quietly, as he allowed other teams to game plan for Nieto and Chiasson.
But look at the team when they left. They had just won 7 out of 8, even with 3 of those games being against BC. The last game the team played before the turbulence started was at Maine anyone at that game saw a team that just wouldn't let the other team into the game. It may have the most complete domination in a fall semester game since BU was a less than gracious host to Michigan in Fall 2008.
Losing just Coyle while retaining the other two may not have been a detriment as it would have set the forward lines, but all three. Thats a lot of subtraction to become addition.
addition by subtraction
Preface: I love this team and this current collection of players, no doubt the adversity has brought them together, but they also haven't taken the us against the world approach where they become less social with the general public (not just females
)Those saying this team is playing better now is absolute revisionist history, was Coyle playing like a first round draft pick and taking over games, or even shifts? Not to my eyes. Was Nicastro having an All-American year? Nope. Trivino had the most goals, but quietly, as he allowed other teams to game plan for Nieto and Chiasson.
But look at the team when they left. They had just won 7 out of 8, even with 3 of those games being against BC. The last game the team played before the turbulence started was at Maine anyone at that game saw a team that just wouldn't let the other team into the game. It may have the most complete domination in a fall semester game since BU was a less than gracious host to Michigan in Fall 2008.
Losing just Coyle while retaining the other two may not have been a detriment as it would have set the forward lines, but all three. Thats a lot of subtraction to become addition.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Congrats to Coyle!
Congrats to Coyle!
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Parker's comments to the Freep about this are hilarious, and correct.
Parker's comments to the Freep about this are hilarious, and correct.
BigRedTerrier
Registered User
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Link? I couldn't find the article
Link? I couldn't find the article
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
http://www.thebostonhockeyblog.com/2012/03/jack-parker-reacts-to-charlie-coyles.html
http://www.thebostonhockeyblog.com/2012/03/jack-parker-reacts-to-charlie-coyles.html
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Haha are you serious, who cares about him.
Haha are you serious, who cares about him.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Sure, why not. I do think he bailed on his teammates and think he should have waited til the end of the season to leave, but no hard feelings.
Hilarious. Some people will probably say that its throwing Coyle under the bus.... but I'd say I love how candid Jack is.
Sure, why not. I do think he bailed on his teammates and think he should have waited til the end of the season to leave, but no hard feelings.
Hilarious. Some people will probably say that its throwing Coyle under the bus.... but I'd say I love how candid Jack is.
Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Jack has always felt strongly, as do many others, that US college hockey is every bit as capable at developing players for the professional ranks. I think he made that point very clear in his remarks and I don't fault him one bit for saying it.
Coyle's bailing took place long before he actually left (i.e. Academics). The handwriting was on the wall for him and he left himself no other choices.
It's old news at this point. I certainly understand why our fanbase, and probably players and coaches feel the way they do about his situation.
At the end of the day, it's still
refreshing to know that the term student-athlete has some meaning to some people at some schools.
Jack has always felt strongly, as do many others, that US college hockey is every bit as capable at developing players for the professional ranks. I think he made that point very clear in his remarks and I don't fault him one bit for saying it.
Coyle's bailing took place long before he actually left (i.e. Academics). The handwriting was on the wall for him and he left himself no other choices.
It's old news at this point. I certainly understand why our fanbase, and probably players and coaches feel the way they do about his situation.
At the end of the day, it's still
refreshing to know that the term student-athlete has some meaning to some people at some schools.
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