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Boston University 2011-2012: Part The Sixth

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Rover said:
and work to get Dave Quinn back to be head coach.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... but wasn't Quinn leading the recruiting? And if so, shouldn't there have been more screening about these possible dicipline cases? I mean, pretty much all the guys getting into trouble over the past few years were recruited while Quinn was involved.

Not saying he could not come in and do a nice job as head coach if/when Parker retires, but maybe we would be better off considering people that had no involvement at all with these issues.
 
claver2010 said:
Just pointing out, it's 99% of the time Cavanaugh drawing up plays on the time out and barking at the ref instead of Jerry.

I wouldn't read too much into that.
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Same with umass and unh from what I can tell. Bavis isn't the next coach. And it's not Sullivan either
 
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ericredaxe said:
Correct me if I'm wrong... but wasn't Quinn leading the recruiting? And if so, shouldn't there have been more screening about these possible dicipline cases? I mean, pretty much all the guys getting into trouble over the past few years were recruited while Quinn was involved.

Not saying he could not come in and do a nice job as head coach if/when Parker retires, but maybe we would be better off considering people that had no involvement at all with these issues.
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That's quite a stretch to start to pin some of this on Quinn. He hasn't been involved in their lives since Spring 2009. Also from what we know, especially with Trivino, they weren't in trouble when they were younger.
 
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brassbonanza said:
That's not anything to pump our chest about, we're not a participation banner program, but it's not a sign that we mailed it in during the big games we played this season. They mailed it in against Maine in 2010, and again last season in both Beanpot games and during the NU series. While we made some mistakes this season in big games, these guys didn't show up and not care, save for a few select occasions, such as the first half of the UNH game 3. Our problems this year were not a lack of effort by any means.
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I could drive myself nuts thinking about how differently this season could have been but for the fact that #7 and #10 got themselves into off-ice trouble. Nothing would be guaranteed, of course, but I would have liked the Terriers chances.

That said, I really respect what this team accomplished in 2012. It says a lot about the grit of those that we're left. I assume that Connolly deserves a lot of the credit, but he was hardly alone. The played hard and at their best, there wasn't a team I saw that moved the puck as well as they did. In the end, they were drained physically and probably emotionally, too. The character that they showed will serve them well in the future, whether they're on skates or in street shoes. I was proud to cheer for this team.
 
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goalguard said:
I could drive myself nuts thinking about how differently this season could have been but for the fact that #7 and #10 got themselves into off-ice trouble. Nothing would be guaranteed, of course, but I would have liked the Terriers chances.

That said, I really respect what this team accomplished in 2012. It says a lot about the grit of those that we're left. I assume that Connolly deserves a lot of the credit, but he was hardly alone. The played hard and at their best, there wasn't a team I saw that moved the puck as well as they did. In the end, they were drained physically and probably emotionally, too. The character that they showed will serve them well in the future, whether they're on skates or in street shoes. I was proud to cheer for this team.
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Well said. I don't think anyone has asserted that there was ever a lack of effort. I thought they played hard for the most part. If you looked at their faces you can tell they were extremely disappointed...not the look of a team that's mailing it in or doesn't care...
 
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goalguard said:
I could drive myself nuts thinking about how differently this season could have been but for the fact that #7 and #10 got themselves into off-ice trouble. Nothing would be guaranteed, of course, but I would have liked the Terriers chances.
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Or look at it another way... how do you think the last 2 games could have turned out if you took the top 2 centers and perhaps the #3 d-man off of Maine and Minnesota? Obviously nothing is guaranteed, but I would have liked our chances a lot better.

I think a lot of us (myself included) underestimated the impact that losing those players may have had over the long term as the season grinded on... oh well, the results are what they are, and while they were in many ways dissapointing, i think you have to give a lot of credit to the players and coaches for having done as well as they did.
 
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ericredaxe said:
I think a lot of us (myself included) underestimated the impact that losing those players may have had over the long term as the season grinded on...
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Grind is exactly the right word. It's a long season and a hard game. Even the great 2009 team looked tired at year's end (4 one-goal games out of their last 5).
 
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As I told Scarlet on Sunday I was impressed with BU, especially considering what the remaining players overcame during the season. Good luck next year.
 
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goalguard said:
I could drive myself nuts thinking about how differently this season could have been but for the fact that #7 and #10 got themselves into off-ice trouble. Nothing would be guaranteed, of course, but I would have liked the Terriers chances.

That said, I really respect what this team accomplished in 2012. It says a lot about the grit of those that we're left. I assume that Connolly deserves a lot of the credit, but he was hardly alone. The played hard and at their best, there wasn't a team I saw that moved the puck as well as they did. In the end, they were drained physically and probably emotionally, too. The character that they showed will serve them well in the future, whether they're on skates or in street shoes. I was proud to cheer for this team.
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I'm sorry, but what are we crediting Connolly for again? Seems as the captain he might have some responsibility to keep the team in line. Last time I checked, that didn't happen to degree I've never seen in all my years watching this team. They didn't play hard consistanty (again not sure if anybody even watched the Maine game who's saying that) and had little ability to keep each other out of trouble. I'm all for saluting teams overcoming adversity...except when they cause the adversity themselves. As the old saying goes, its like thanking the guy who burned down your house for saving the welcome mat by the front door.
 
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Brian Gentry said:
That's quite a stretch to start to pin some of this on Quinn. He hasn't been involved in their lives since Spring 2009. Also from what we know, especially with Trivino, they weren't in trouble when they were younger.
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Here's each recruiting class whom Quinn was the primary recruiter for. Durocher was the lead recruiter for the Seniors from the 2009 Championship team (with Gilroy being the exception).


2006
Bennett, Z. Cohen, Gryba, Popko, Strait

2007
Bonino, C. Cohen, Kraus, Pereira, Vic Saponari, Shattenkirk, Wilson

2008
Connolly, Gaudet, K. Gilroy, Glass, Millan, Rollheiser, Ruikka, Vinny Saponari, Trivino, Warsofsky

2009
Chiasson, Courtnall, Escobedo, Megan, Nicastro, Rosen, Santana

Escobedo and Megan were originally 2010 recruits. Escobedo came early b/c of Strait's (unexpected) early departure; Megan came early b/c of Wilson's departure.

2010
Cisse, Clendening, Coyle, Gill, MacGregor, Nieto, Ronan

IIRC Quinn was most involved with recruiting Cisse, Clendening and Nieto, although the latter two didn't commit after Quinn departed. Cisse came a year early b/c of the Saponaris' dismissals.

2011
Hohmann, Privitera, Rodrigues

IIRC Hohmann committed in early 2009 while Quinn was still on the coaching staff. I believe Quinn was also involved w/ recruiting Privitera, but he committed around the same time as Clendening & Nieto.


Looking at the players whom Quinn had a hand in recruiting and their productivity, I think Quinn's "legacy" as a recruiter is bringing in Wilson, Shattenkirk, Cohen, Bonino, and Millan, and the roles they played on the 2009 team. Other than that, it appears his track record is mixed, but IMO it's fair to ask whether things could've been different (re: better) if Quinn was still around to help develop and discipline the players he recruited -- most notably this year's Seniors and Juniors.
 
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Random reactions:
- Minnesota will make life challenging for BC. I think BC will win, but I don't see this as a cake walk for them. The Gophers are playing very good hockey. I thought BC was a lock last year, and they lost in the first round. JD is right.
- Given how long Bavis has been the #2, I think Parker pushes for him to get the job when he goes. While I would much prefer Quinn, I would still prefer the change, even if it meant Bavis getting the gig.
- My reason for wanting Quinn is not for recruiting, it's for Coaching and all that happens once a player arrives on Comm. Ave. I trust Quinn to delegate the recruiting. Let's be real here - if you start having consistent success as a program, the recruiting tends to be a much easier process. Lately, we've relied on "Lifetime BUers" like Warsofsky and Coyle.
- Assuming the reports are accurate, good luck Alex, and congrats on making the pros. As a second rounder, he'l get his shot at the big club before long, just to see how he responds.
 
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