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Boston College hockey 2021-2022

I thought the new hoops practice facility was being built now and attached to Conte? Gonna look very different when you visit Conte in the fall. But that's a nice perk for hoops. It doesn't change that you still have 4 teams fighting for game time slots and the ACC will always trump Hockey East. This isn't an immediate need but for everything York has done for the school I think a long term plan for a rink should be the next project once this Hoag Pavillion is completed. Wasn't Jack Parker heavily involved with Agganis? Give Jerry something to do in retirement. I have no doubt he could be a good fundraiser!
 
If you want a young coach AND experience the answer is JD Forrest. That is who I want. No experience in college but I think that's overrated. He's my first choice even if he agrees to just inherit the current assistants for now. Why can't he be BCs David Carle.
 
Because Carle coached in college for nine seasons and recruited the 2017 national championship team.

And one is a 41 year old head coach in the AHL. Coaching is coaching. Carle has two assistants who were both college head coaches. There's no one way to build a coaching staff. I am fairly confident whoever the coach is will be able to recruit to BC.

Some people are even obsessed with having HC experience which Carle had none. There is no one blueprint.
 
And while Forrest doesn't have college experience, he was involved with the National Development program as an assistant. To me, a good coach is a good coach. You can configure a staff that helps him ease into the position.
 
And while Forrest doesn't have college experience, he was involved with the National Development program as an assistant. To me, a good coach is a good coach. You can configure a staff that helps him ease into the position.

I like Forrest a lot but there's just a massive unknown on whether he can recruit. I think he can based on his demeanor in interviews but there is some added risk in hiring someone like him vs. someone like Cav or Brown who you know who can do it. That said, he's done a lot of work outside of college hockey that should translate to recruiting well like working with the NTDP & coaching the Hlinka team a couple of times. I'm not entirely against it but I'd rather take Cav than him at the moment

Also, as for a new rink vs. a new basketball arena, I think the hockey alumni could raise the money very easily compared to getting the money for a basketball arena. If they had a mission to go out and get $80 million for a new arena, I don't think it'd take much time at all. It took years and years to just scrounge up some dough for a practice facility for basketball, nevermind a new arena. I think it's more of a matter of getting the administration/athletic department on board than anything else
 
The recruiting issue might concern me at a lesser program but I just don't think recruiting to BC will be a problem. I just like the idea of going young with this hire. If they want to commit the resources you could even surround him with proven recruiters.

In recent years BC has gotten the new football facility done as well as the baseball stadium/facility and now hoops practice facility. They have been committing the resources to upgrades. Hopefully York has been pushing for something behind the scenes and it's next in line.
 
I thought the new hoops practice facility was being built now and attached to Conte? Gonna look very different when you visit Conte in the fall. But that's a nice perk for hoops. It doesn't change that you still have 4 teams fighting for game time slots and the ACC will always trump Hockey East. This isn't an immediate need but for everything York has done for the school I think a long term plan for a rink should be the next project once this Hoag Pavillion is completed. Wasn't Jack Parker heavily involved with Agganis? Give Jerry something to do in retirement. I have no doubt he could be a good fundraiser!

I can't think of two more different personalities than Parker and York. Once you get past the basics that both are locals and contemporaries who turned out to be great college hockey coaches, the similarities are pretty thin. Even the nature of their respective retirements was completely different - one guy probably was long-term planning for it all along at some point, the other guy had it sprung on him a few years earlier than he'd probably hoped or planned.

I won't pretend to know the ins and outs of what Coach York thinks and likes, but as an outside observer, he's always struck me as someone not entirely comfortable being in the spotlight. He has chosen this time to retire and walk away. "Keeping him busy" might not be something York is receptive to. If York himself was concerned about "keeping busy", he would just have stayed on as HC, doing what he does best (and loves doing) and I'm sure he'd have been welcome to do so for as long as BC Hockey remained relevant on the national stage. I just can't see York spending his golden years hustling rich alums for donations. It doesn't seem to match his public personality. Parker and Walshy (RIP) would lap that up; York? I doubt it.
 
I thought the new hoops practice facility was being built now and attached to Conte? Gonna look very different when you visit Conte in the fall. But that's a nice perk for hoops. It doesn't change that you still have 4 teams fighting for game time slots and the ACC will always trump Hockey East. This isn't an immediate need but for everything York has done for the school I think a long term plan for a rink should be the next project once this Hoag Pavillion is completed. Wasn't Jack Parker heavily involved with Agganis? Give Jerry something to do in retirement. I have no doubt he could be a good fundraiser!

Could it be a land issue more than a money issue?
 
Could it be a land issue more than a money issue?

Could be, not sure. I'm sure there are always battles with Newton/Boston and I don't know exactly where a new rink would go. I am encouraged by the other athletics related renovations they have done though. Just hoping a new rink emerges as the next big project.
 
The recruiting issue might concern me at a lesser program but I just don't think recruiting to BC will be a problem. I just like the idea of going young with this hire. If they want to commit the resources you could even surround him with proven recruiters.

In recent years BC has gotten the new football facility done as well as the baseball stadium/facility and now hoops practice facility. They have been committing the resources to upgrades. Hopefully York has been pushing for something behind the scenes and it's next in line.

They should build a Women's Hockey facility which doubles as the men's hockey practice rink.
 
Eh if they're gonna do a new rink I want the men playing games there. Women too. No issue with that. Much better than having 4 teams share Conte Forum. If anyone can name another D1 school with that setup please share.
 
Eh if they're gonna do a new rink I want the men playing games there. Women too. No issue with that. Much better than having 4 teams share Conte Forum. If anyone can name another D1 school with that setup please share.

I think what Zlax might be suggesting is they could build something with a smaller footprint and less money they could use for women's games who don't draw as well & practice? The only setup kind of like that is BU with the women playing at Walter Brown and the men using Agganis but that had a bunch of other reasons why it happened and what the original plan was for Agganis that didn't really work out

I'm pretty obviously with JD on the new rink, it's 100% needed now that York has retired. I also think it has zero to do with the money or the land. I think it 100% to do with whether or not it's a priority for the administration. If BC announced tomorrow they were starting a fundraising effort for a hockey only Jerry York arena and needed $80 million to get it done, it would be done very fast
 
I think what Zlax might be suggesting is they could build something with a smaller footprint and less money they could use for women's games who don't draw as well & practice? The only setup kind of like that is BU with the women playing at Walter Brown and the men using Agganis but that had a bunch of other reasons why it happened and what the original plan was for Agganis that didn't really work out

Ya to me a practice rink where the women play their home games would be a secondary option. I selfishly want the new gameday arena for the men to play in (and women can play there too). Something like Agganis, Pegula, Compton. A hockey specific facility where the men's team play their games. As for Agganis I don't really understand why the women's team doesn't play their homes games there. Is it because of all the other events Agganis has?

If you build a practice rink where the women play their home games, the men's team still has to share Conte with both basketball teams.
 
Ya to me a practice rink where the women play their home games would be a secondary option. I selfishly want the new gameday arena for the men to play in (and women can play there too). Something like Agganis, Pegula, Compton. A hockey specific facility where the men's team play their games. As for Agganis I don't really understand why the women's team doesn't play their homes games there. Is it because of all the other events Agganis has?

If you build a practice rink where the women play their home games, the men's team still has to share Conte with both basketball teams.

The Agganis thing happened because BU looks at it like you have to draw a certain number of fans in order to play there. They kicked out their own basketball team from Agganis back to Case Gym because their attendance was so bad. The whole idea when Agganis was built was to fill it every night they could and keep Walter Brown so the hockey teams could practice as much as they wanted without basketball or events getting in the way. I don't think it was ever in the plans for the women's team to play full time at Agganis, just some off games here or there
 
I think JD might be onto something with Forrest. A head coach in the AHL has to be a candidate, especially given that he is an alum. How has he done record wise in the AHL? I have no concerns about JD’s ability to recruit. BC is the top choice in the East, it’s a destination school. The key is for the coach to know which recruits to go after and how to structure a roster of young talent and older players. I think Cav would do an excellent job at BC.

The answer is too build two hockey rinks either on Hammond Pond Parkway or the newly acquired Pine Manor campus. Rent both rinks out to the public, huge money makers. They just built two rinks in Wellesley that are booked full time. They are not building a new arena for either hockey or hoops. There will be renovations to Conte at some point.

Go Eagles!
 
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