Big Ten Out of Conference is a joke

[dxmnkd316]

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I wonder if this is the year where gopher fans start to buy into the new conference.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

You may be correct. However, the B1G will have to put together more performances like this season before anyone (outside of the B1G fans of course) will buy into their dominance. One year doesn't necessarily equate a trend. After all, the B1G hadn't put anyone in the Frozen Four the last three seasons. Heck, even with putting in 3 this season, they still rank third for conferences in Frozen Four appearances since realignment (NCHC: 8, Hockey East: 5, B1G: 4, ECAC: 3).

That being said, it is pretty definitive that this season, the B1G was the best conference in college hockey. Barring a couple of upsets, the conference should also earn its first national title. Again, congrats...very impressive results this weekend.

The king of backhanded compliments. Yawn.

 

[Speed Kills]

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You’ve been saying this every season since realignment and for the first time you may be right!!!!!! Congrats Davey on the season! Lol, maybe now instead of spending such unhealthy amount of time talking about the NCHC, you can focus on talking about the team you allegedly cheer for?

PS If UMD wins it all, prepare for flak!

As soon as obnoxious blowhard fans stop building the NCHC up to be something more than it actually is, I will stop spending such unhealthy amount of time talking about them. Speaking of spending unhealthy amounts of time talking about certain conferences, what's up with the amount of Big Ten talk among UND fans on their message board over the course of the last five years?

 

[chickod]

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Not sure there can be any such thing as a "dominant" conference in today's day and age. Expansion of the game geographically (and more schools recruiting internationally) has brought more parity. When it was a more regional sport, tradition played a huge part as kids went to the schools with great local pedigree. Sure, there will be "runs" for each conference, but that goes in cycles. For a long time the WCHA was dominant. In the 90's and early 2000s it was Hockey East. The ECAC got a couple in there. Same with NCHC (but they haven't been around long enough to establish a track record). B1G has had a great year this year. But even so, if ND doesn't win in OT and Michigan doesn't get a puck bouncing off the back boards, over the net to their player who taps it in, they may have only had one team in the FF. It's an unpredictable game and in a one and done scenario I think it takes a larger sample size, meaning years and years, to determine "dominance."

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Yeah, the NCHC has had 2 each of the last 3 seasons. I don't think anyone has had 3 since the WCHA put in 4 in 2005 (DU, North Dakota, CC, and Minnesota).

You are correct. The first year it was possible to have 3 teams from the same conference in the Frozen Four was 1981, when the tournament was expanded to 8 teams. This year is just the fifth time since then that three teams from one conference have made the Frozen Four:
1981 - WCHA 3: Wisconsin (champion), Minnesota (runner-up), Michigan Tech (4th)
1992 - CCHA 3: Lake Superior (champion), Michigan (semifinalist), Michigan State (semifinalist)
1999 - HEA 3: Maine (champion), New Hamphire (runner-up), Boston College (semifinalist)
2005 - WCHA 4: Denver (champion), North Dakota (runner-up), Colorado College (semifinalist), Minnesota (semifinalist)
2018 - B1G 3: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

Sean

 

[willythekid]

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Get used to it. I hate the fact the old WCHA is dead, but the future is the Big Ten, not some mid-major like the nachos.

Those mid-majors have made mince-meat out of the big10 the past three seasons. I'm fine with the old WCHA being dead... us nacho lovers have had it pretty **** good since realignment. I'm glad to see you weren't one of the goofer fans jumping off the I35 bridge when someone read the final RPI results to you.

 

[Speed Kills]

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Those mid-majors have made mince-meat out of the big10 the past three seasons. I'm fine with the old WCHA being dead... us nacho lovers have had it pretty **** good since realignment. I'm glad to see you weren't one of the goofer fans jumping off the I35 bridge when someone read the final RPI results to you.

As a Gopher fan, I too am fine with the old WCHA being dead. I'm happy to not have to slum around with Division II and I-AA schools.

 

[SiouxFanatic]

As soon as obnoxious blowhard fans stop building the NCHC up to be something more than it actually is, I will stop spending such unhealthy amount of time talking about them. Speaking of spending unhealthy amounts of time talking about certain conferences, what's up with the amount of Big Ten talk among UND fans on their message board over the course of the last five years?

Sounds like you will be stuck in a vicious cycle then, cause as long as you keep going, others will too. As to your question, I think you’d have a better take on that since you usually are right in the thick of the discussions you mention.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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You are correct. The first year it was possible to have 3 teams from the same conference in the Frozen Four was 1981, when the tournament was expanded to 8 teams. This year is just the fifth time since then that three teams from one conference have made the Frozen Four:
1981 - WCHA 3: Wisconsin (champion), Minnesota (runner-up), Michigan Tech (4th)
1992 - CCHA 3: Lake Superior (champion), Michigan (semifinalist), Michigan State (semifinalist)
1999 - HEA 3: Maine (champion), New Hamphire (runner-up), Boston College (semifinalist)
2005 - WCHA 4: Denver (champion), North Dakota (runner-up), Colorado College (semifinalist), Minnesota (semifinalist)
2018 - B1G 3: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

Sean

Good summary Sean. It also doesn't look good for Minnesota Duluth. In 3 of the previous 4 instances where a conference got at least 3 teams in the Frozen Four, it was an intra-conference championship tilt (unsurprisingly).

I get that a lot of B1G fans want to gloat about their conference's success this season, as they should...but can we just all agree that we will all cheer in unison against Michigan?

 

[Sean Pickett]

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...even with putting in 3 this season, they still rank third for conferences in Frozen Four appearances since realignment (NCHC: 8, Hockey East: 4, B1G: 3, ECAC: 3, Notre Dame Mercenaries 2).

Fixed your post.

Sean

 

[First Time Long Time]

As a Gopher fan, I too am fine with the old WCHA being dead. I'm happy to not have to slum around with Division II and I-AA schools.

Those schools that the Gophers can't beat...

 

[solovsfett]

That is what we have been hearing for the last 4 years, even before the new conferences started play... What is that saying about a blind squirrel finding a nut every now and again? No doubt the big10 has had a good year but being a dominate conference comes from more than just the most recent year's results. BTW, Ohio dominated an outstanding DU team tonight... that was impressive.

I forgot to mention Minnesota. I'm sure whoever the new coach is will get them on track soon.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Good summary Sean. It also doesn't look good for Minnesota Duluth. In 3 of the previous 4 instances where a conference got at least 3 teams in the Frozen Four, it was an intra-conference championship tilt (unsurprisingly).

I get that a lot of B1G fans want to gloat about their conference's success this season, as they should...but can we just all agree that we will all cheer in unison against Michigan?

Yes, although one time it was guaranteed. And I'm not sure how Michigan lost in 1992, since according to the NCAA they didn't even play anyone!

Sean

 

[SiouxFanatic]

Those schools that the Gophers can't beat...

Hahaha! Their football team would probably be more successful slumming it with DII and I-AA. Lol

 

[Speed Kills]

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Those schools that the Gophers can't beat...

Can't beat? I seem to recall they won the WCHA in each of the last two years that they were in it. Try again.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Fixed your post.

Sean

I believe Notre Dame may be the first program to appear in back-to-back Frozen Fours as a member of different conferences. Michigan has also now appeared in the Frozen Four as a representative of 4 different conferences (WIHL, WCHA, CCHA, and B1G). I don't believe any other program has accomplished that feat.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Can't beat? I seem to recall they won the WCHA in each of the last two years that they were in it. Try again.

Take a look at your in-state record since the B1G formed.
The fact you have to go back 5 years to try and puff your chest is very telling.

 

[alfablue]

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Good summary Sean. It also doesn't look good for Minnesota Duluth. In 3 of the previous 4 instances where a conference got at least 3 teams in the Frozen Four, it was an intra-conference championship tilt (unsurprisingly).

I get that a lot of B1G fans want to gloat about their conference's success this season, as they should...but can we just all agree that we will all cheer in unison against Michigan?

Maybe not gloating, but one can certainly say that the title of this thread is very wrong. The B1G isn't a joke this season. We got the max possible 3 of 4 spots in the FF (due to the seeding). Very much not a joke.

 

[willythekid]

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Take a look at your in-state record since the B1G formed.
The fact you have to go back 5 years to try and puff your chest is very telling.

He goes back 60 plus years when michigan won most of it's titles as the reasoning behind the big10 being better than the NCHC... Can't make this stuff up. He is good for an occasional laugh though. As soon as the big10 takes a dump again next year he will be gone like a fart in the wind.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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I believe Notre Dame may be the first program to appear in back-to-back Frozen Fours as a member of different conferences. Michigan has also now appeared in the Frozen Four as a representative of 4 different conferences (WIHL, WCHA, CCHA, and B1G). I don't believe any other program has accomplished that feat.

No current Hockey East team has done it, although Boston College did make the NCAA Tournament in back-to-back years as a member of different conferences.

BU and BC have both appeared as representatives of 3 different conferences (NEIHL, ECAC and Hockey East) and I don't believe any other eastern team has represented more than two conferences.

Sean