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Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus

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4four4 said:
SCSU
UMD
UND
BSU
MSU
DU
CC
UAA
UNO
MT
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If you want to see what Minnesota's schedule at Mariucci will be in a few years, just go look at Michigan's schedule for the past dozen years on this site. Other than the college hockey showcase, which of course necessitates that Michigan travel every other year on a quid pro quo basis, this is what your season tickets will buy you:

Niagara
St. Lawrence
Niagara
BU (but only if you agree to go to BU the next year)
UAH
Connecticut
Northeastern
Quinnipiac
BC (one game)
Merrimack
UNH (one game)
St. Lawrence
Mercyhurst
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
Harvard (one game)
Mass-Lowell
Yale (back when Yale was bad)
Niagara

That takes you back to '99. But all will be good. You'll get to see a bunch of teams you didn't even know existed. :p
 
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4four4 said:
SCSU
UMD
UND
BSU
MSU
DU
CC
UAA
UNO
MT
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There is nothing in it for the WCHA schools if they don't get home games back. Sure the minnesota schools want to the Gophers, but why would they care if they never play them at home? If the Big Ten schools are willing to travel then yeah, you will see WCHA teams scheduling them. Otherwise Big Ten teams are going to have to buy the small schools(i.e AHA) off and pay them to travel. WCHA teams only have 6 open dates a year, so I am sure they are going to want some of those to be home games.
 
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scsutommyboy said:
There is nothing in it for the WCHA schools if they don't get home games back. Sure the minnesota schools want to the Gophers, but why would they care if they never play them at home? If the Big Ten schools are willing to travel then yeah, you will see WCHA teams scheduling them. Otherwise Big Ten teams are going to have to buy the small schools(i.e AHA) off and pay them to travel. WCHA teams only have 6 open dates a year, so I am sure they are going to want some of those to be home games.
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You could see the Huskies go to Madison one year and then host UW in Green Bay the next ;)
 
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scsutommyboy said:
There is nothing in it for the WCHA schools if they don't get home games back. Sure the minnesota schools want to the Gophers, but why would they care if they never play them at home? If the Big Ten schools are willing to travel then yeah, you will see WCHA teams scheduling them. Otherwise Big Ten teams are going to have to buy the small schools(i.e AHA) off and pay them to travel. WCHA teams only have 6 open dates a year, so I am sure they are going to want some of those to be home games.
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I'm willing to bet that conference schedules are cut back considerably if the BTHC comes into being and cross conference agreements are made between the WCHA, CCHA, and tBTHC.
 
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SJHovey said:
If you want to see what Minnesota's schedule at Mariucci will be in a few years, just go look at Michigan's schedule for the past dozen years on this site. Other than the college hockey showcase, which of course necessitates that Michigan travel every other year on a quid pro quo basis, this is what your season tickets will buy you:

Niagara
St. Lawrence
Niagara
BU (but only if you agree to go to BU the next year)
UAH
Connecticut
Northeastern
Quinnipiac
BC (one game)
Merrimack
UNH (one game)
St. Lawrence
Mercyhurst
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
Harvard (one game)
Mass-Lowell
Yale (back when Yale was bad)
Niagara

That takes you back to '99. But all will be good. You'll get to see a bunch of teams you didn't even know existed. :p
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Yep. The CCHA needs Michigan/Michigan State. Those two schools can do without the CCHA.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I'm willing to bet that conference schedules are cut back considerably if the BTHC comes into being and cross conference agreements are made between the WCHA, CCHA, and tBTHC.
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I think that would be the smart move for everybody involved and I would love to see it.
 
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So have the rest of the teams that are pathetic and have crappy fans and no support quitting hockey yet? Those of us real teams in big conferences want you to go away now so we can play real hockey and not deal with you peons!

:D
 
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I'll bet Minnesota football fans didn't know South Dakota had a D1 football team before this year?
(Talking about playing lower level teams, USC is the only decent game in many people's eyes.)
Michigan's is slightly better, with two major conference opponents, a mid major and a squeaker vs a DI-subdivision.

So in all honesty, everyone in a major conference should be use to these types of OOC schedule.:D
Does Appalachin State have hockey?

SJHovey said:
, this is what your season tickets will buy you:

Niagara
St. Lawrence
Niagara
BU (but only if you agree to go to BU the next year)
UAH
Connecticut
Northeastern
Quinnipiac
BC (one game)
Merrimack
UNH (one game)
St. Lawrence
Mercyhurst
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
Harvard (one game)
Mass-Lowell
Yale (back when Yale was bad)
Niagara

That takes you back to '99. But all will be good. You'll get to see a bunch of teams you didn't even know existed. :p
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The BTN will be featuring Penn State hockey on its Tailgate Show on Friday night (11pm ET).

BTN reporter and Penn State alum Melanie Collins is back home this week and had a little fun on Tuesday.

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scsutommyboy said:
There is nothing in it for the WCHA schools if they don't get home games back. Sure the minnesota schools want to the Gophers, but why would they care if they never play them at home? If the Big Ten schools are willing to travel then yeah, you will see WCHA teams scheduling them. Otherwise Big Ten teams are going to have to buy the small schools(i.e AHA) off and pay them to travel. WCHA teams only have 6 open dates a year, so I am sure they are going to want some of those to be home games.
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Ok, for example Minnesota and Wisconsin should travel to SCSU once every five years. I think that is fair.
 
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SteveP said:
The BTN will be featuring Penn State hockey on its Tailgate Show on Friday night (11pm ET).

BTN reporter and Penn State alum Melanie Collins is back home this week and had a little fun on Tuesday.

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I don't know if I am more impressed that she is a pretty girl or if she can actually skate. Skating wins out.
 
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Just to throw another unlikely possibility out....

On the Rick Comley Show this week, Rick said he was not involved with the discussions, but said he didn't see why there needed to be a separate BT conference. When asked his preference he said he'd like to see a merger of the CCHA and WCHA with four divisions. Each team would play 4 games against the others within their division with another 4-8 (assuming 28 game league schedule) outside the division (could have some protected rivalries that meet each year.) Having both Alaska schools in the same division has its advantages and disadvantages...I'm keeping them there with the idea that other division schools would make one 10 day trip a year to Alaska and play both in back to back weekends.

I personally don't see this happening...but if it did it might look something like this:

Big Ten
Penn State
Michigan
Ohio State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Minnesota

West
Alaska-F
Alaska-A
Colorado C
Denver
UNO
North Dakota

North
Minnesota State
BSU
UMD
St Cloud
Mich Tech
Northern Michigan

South
Lake State
Ferris
Western
Notre Dame
Bowling Green
Miami
UAH
 
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wsummers said:
Just to throw another unlikely possibility out....

On the Rick Comley Show this week, Rick said he was not involved with the discussions, but said he didn't see why there needed to be a separate BT conference. When asked his preference he said he'd like to see a merger of the CCHA and WCHA with four divisions. Each team would play 4 games against the others within their division with another 4-8 (assuming 28 game league schedule) outside the division (could have some protected rivalries that meet each year.) Having both Alaska schools in the same division has its advantages and disadvantages...I'm keeping them there with the idea that other division schools would make one 10 day trip a year to Alaska and play both in back to back weekends.

I personally don't see this happening...but if it did it might look something like this:

Big Ten
Penn State
Michigan
Ohio State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Minnesota

West
Alaska-F
Alaska-A
Colorado C
Denver
UNO
North Dakota

North
Minnesota State
BSU
UMD
St Cloud
Mich Tech
Northern Michigan

South
Lake State
Ferris
Western
Notre Dame
Bowling Green
Miami
UAH
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One, the biggests problem I see with this you would lose an conference with an autobid. Plus, how hosed is that West Division?? Though I suppose a school like UND could just do one week in Alaska, and then another week later on in Colorado.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
One, the biggests problem I see with this you would lose an conference with an autobid. Plus, how hosed is that West Division?? Though I suppose a school like UND could just do one week in Alaska, and then another week later on in Colorado.
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1) W/C-CHA Travel - Ugh.
2) Only 1 AQ
3) 24 teams - how's that supposed to work (see #1) One game vs. each team - Friday/Sunday at Wisconsin and Minny or UAA and UA_ or PSU and OSU? Again, see #1
4) OOC travel? Everyone's gotta play eastern teams, and there's no way those schools are all gonna head west
 
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Has anyone looked at how the various D-I conferences have formed and/or teams have departed? Several conferences formed simply due to multiple independents coming together. Other examples:

WCHA -> CCHA - disputes about recruiting practices
ECAC -> Hockey East - disputes about schedule length
CHA - NCAA stopped sanctioning Division II hockey

I don't think a BTHC is going to happen unless something major happens or a large number of Big Ten teams join D-I hockey. I don't think a BTHC will happen until there are at least eight Big Ten teams in D-I hockey. I realize that six is the minimum but I don't think there is enough draw for it to happen, especially because Minnesota will probably resist due to the TV contract. I also think that the current changes and potential changes in store for college football conferences will have a ripple effect on other college sports.
 
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The Big Ten Killed My Baby!



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Khryx said:
Has anyone looked at how the various D-I conferences have formed and/or teams have departed? Several conferences formed simply due to multiple independents coming together. Other examples:

WCHA -> CCHA - disputes about recruiting practices
ECAC -> Hockey East - disputes about schedule length
CHA - NCAA stopped sanctioning Division II hockey

I don't think a BTHC is going to happen unless something major happens or a large number of Big Ten teams join D-I hockey. I don't think a BTHC will happen until there are at least eight Big Ten teams in D-I hockey. I realize that six is the minimum but I don't think there is enough draw for it to happen, especially because Minnesota will probably resist due to the TV contract. I also think that the current changes and potential changes in store for college football conferences will have a ripple effect on other college sports.
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I'd like to agree with you, but this situation differs from the past in that the only ones determining whether a BTHC forms are the 6 BT teams that play D1 hockey.
Right now, it's safe to say that PSU, OSU and UW all want to see it happen. All it takes is to convince one of the other three to come along, and we will see a new league in the future.
 
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Stauber1 said:
I'd like to agree with you, but this situation differs from the past in that the only ones determining whether a BTHC forms are the 6 BT teams that play D1 hockey.
Right now, it's safe to say that PSU, OSU and UW all want to see it happen. All it takes is to convince one of the other three to come along, and we will see a new league in the future.
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Remember everybody gets a vote in the Big Ten including non hockey playing schools. For example, if Indiana is on the fence deciding if they play hockey they can decide to cast a yes vote. Not all the schools will vote on this matter but some of them may decide to vote yes all because of the Big Ten network. IMO, this is a done deal.
 
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