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Re: Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
That would be so cool. Already have the facility.
Think they'll do it?
That would be so cool. Already have the facility.
Think they'll do it?
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Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
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Re: Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
Article in the Bergen Record (Friend of the People it Serves): http://www.northjersey.com/news/edu...n_the_verge_of_a_big_leap_to_the_Big_Ten.html
Article in the Bergen Record (Friend of the People it Serves): http://www.northjersey.com/news/edu...n_the_verge_of_a_big_leap_to_the_Big_Ten.html
jmh
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Re: Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
It certainly is; as a NJ native, they have a much better academic reputation in the region than any of the existing Big Ten schools. I think this move sucks for Rutgers precisely for that reason - they're NOT Big Midwestern State Sports Factory, and I don't know why they aspire to be.
MUhawks628
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Rutgers does have over 55,000 students, it's not as if they are some obscure east coast liberal arts college.
Rutgers does have over 55,000 students, it's not as if they are some obscure east coast liberal arts college.
wolverineTrumpet
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As a part time Terps fan, I don't like this. I will no longer be able to cheer for Merry-land. Except when they play tOSU. I will always cheer against tOSU.
People in Baltimore have heard of Rutgers. Our (Baltimore Ravens fans) favorite running back, Ray Rice, played football there.
As a part time Terps fan, I don't like this. I will no longer be able to cheer for Merry-land. Except when they play tOSU. I will always cheer against tOSU.
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The McCourty brothers also went to Rutgers, The State University.
According to AAU, its OSU and tPSU.
The McCourty brothers also went to Rutgers, The State University.
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Most people in Michigan do: anytime, anywhere, any sport!
Most people in Michigan do: anytime, anywhere, any sport!
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
I think Rutgers is a good addition, both academically and marketing-wise... When all this shuffling started, they were always linked to the B1G... Although not quite on the academic level of Northwestern, they compare favorably to what the rest of the B1G can offer... Just like Northwestern, there is a trade off in academics/research and sports....
Maryland, I'm just not familiar with what they can offer academically... I know as far as Mid-Atlantic schools go, they are not Duke, Virginia, or UNC when it comes to learning among major conference schools... Even in-state I believe Georgetown and John's Hopkins easily top them... But they do bring a decent sports following...
I've got to wonder what the ripple effects of this move will be now... Just gotta wait and see I guess....
I think Rutgers is a good addition, both academically and marketing-wise... When all this shuffling started, they were always linked to the B1G... Although not quite on the academic level of Northwestern, they compare favorably to what the rest of the B1G can offer... Just like Northwestern, there is a trade off in academics/research and sports....
Maryland, I'm just not familiar with what they can offer academically... I know as far as Mid-Atlantic schools go, they are not Duke, Virginia, or UNC when it comes to learning among major conference schools... Even in-state I believe Georgetown and John's Hopkins easily top them... But they do bring a decent sports following...
I've got to wonder what the ripple effects of this move will be now... Just gotta wait and see I guess....
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Georgetown is in DC and plays FCS football (badly). JHU is a Division III school.
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Here we can call them Rutgers, tSUNJ....
I don't think most people would realize that Rutgers is The State University of New Jersey.
Here we can call them Rutgers, tSUNJ....
jmh
win or lose, we booze
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So, regardless of what happens with the Big Tewelve, I think RtSUoNJ should be mocked for having such a cumbersome, marketing-driven name.
That's their full official name, it even says so on their official seal:
So, regardless of what happens with the Big Tewelve, I think RtSUoNJ should be mocked for having such a cumbersome, marketing-driven name.
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Academically, Maryland and Rutgers are about even, and Nebraska is the only B1G team they compare favorably with. They're both about on par with Indiana/Purdue/Iowa/Minnesota/Michigan State.
Academically, Maryland and Rutgers are about even, and Nebraska is the only B1G team they compare favorably with. They're both about on par with Indiana/Purdue/Iowa/Minnesota/Michigan State.
French Rage
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Re: Big Ten Expansion: Maryland and Rutgers
Rutger's in New Jersey! Rutger's in New Jersey!
Rutger's in New Jersey! Rutger's in New Jersey!
wolverineTrumpet
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Or, as the engineering professor giving potential students tours back in 2000 put it, "we hope to be right up there with the Stanfords and the Michigans".
I'm surprised that Maryland is willing to give up the basketball rivalries with Duke and UNC.
Georgetown is in DC (I think that was already covered). Hopkins is a private university and great at what they do (med, eng, business) but not on most "in state" students radar. University of Maryland is a good school, the only in state school I bothered to apply to. There aren't many public schools to choose from in Maryland (College Park, UMBC, Towson, Salisbury). Maryland isn't a Michigan, Northwestern or Penn State. But certainly it is as good a Nebraska, Iowa, Indiana, tOSU.
Or, as the engineering professor giving potential students tours back in 2000 put it, "we hope to be right up there with the Stanfords and the Michigans".
I'm surprised that Maryland is willing to give up the basketball rivalries with Duke and UNC.
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From a sports position, the question is do the schools raise the average of the B1Gs sports? Perhaps not. But here's an interesting take on just how the B1G might reposition these schools. That is to say...the magic that could happen when you combine the B1G and the east coast. This from a PSU perspective that would have the best insights into such an issue:
Rutgers, Maryland attractive to Big Ten for good reasons:
It only matters that the Big Ten is arriving. And whatever can be said about the nadir that was reached in Big Ten football this season, the brand and its major names carry a pedigree and a heritage that will immediately create a buzz even in largely pro sports areas. Don't think so? Wait and see.
Jim Delany knows what he's doing. And what he's doing is making money. When Michigan and Ohio State and Nebraska and Penn State start showing up on a regular basis in Piscataway and College Park, suddenly major-college football will have arrived. It will then be a legit contender for the local sports dollar – especially when Penn State and Ohio State fans are driving in.
Nothing like it has ever happened in Eastern major metros. Name-brand college football has not been part of the landscape here on a regular basis since Red Blaik was running the great Army teams up and down the I-95 corridor (before there was an I-95 corridor). It will be fascinating to watch.
Effects on Penn State? I can think of one major one right away: Two of the Nittany Lions' major recruiting gardens will be tougher to cultivate.
It used to be that Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden had no real competition for kids in Jersey and Maryland and the Hampton Roads/Virginia Beach areas of Virginia. ACC and Big East football cannot compete with the Big Ten as a lure – even when the massive Midwestern conference is in its down years. The Big Ten simply matters more. Huge stadiums full of 80-, 90-, 100,000 people have profound impacts on recruits. The ACC and Big East simply don't have that.
Rutgers and Maryland have been retarded by their conferences, not their regions. Theirs are two of the most fertile talent stocks in the North.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2012/11/rutgers_maryland_attractive_to.html
From a sports position, the question is do the schools raise the average of the B1Gs sports? Perhaps not. But here's an interesting take on just how the B1G might reposition these schools. That is to say...the magic that could happen when you combine the B1G and the east coast. This from a PSU perspective that would have the best insights into such an issue:
Rutgers, Maryland attractive to Big Ten for good reasons:
It only matters that the Big Ten is arriving. And whatever can be said about the nadir that was reached in Big Ten football this season, the brand and its major names carry a pedigree and a heritage that will immediately create a buzz even in largely pro sports areas. Don't think so? Wait and see.
Jim Delany knows what he's doing. And what he's doing is making money. When Michigan and Ohio State and Nebraska and Penn State start showing up on a regular basis in Piscataway and College Park, suddenly major-college football will have arrived. It will then be a legit contender for the local sports dollar – especially when Penn State and Ohio State fans are driving in.
Nothing like it has ever happened in Eastern major metros. Name-brand college football has not been part of the landscape here on a regular basis since Red Blaik was running the great Army teams up and down the I-95 corridor (before there was an I-95 corridor). It will be fascinating to watch.
Effects on Penn State? I can think of one major one right away: Two of the Nittany Lions' major recruiting gardens will be tougher to cultivate.
It used to be that Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden had no real competition for kids in Jersey and Maryland and the Hampton Roads/Virginia Beach areas of Virginia. ACC and Big East football cannot compete with the Big Ten as a lure – even when the massive Midwestern conference is in its down years. The Big Ten simply matters more. Huge stadiums full of 80-, 90-, 100,000 people have profound impacts on recruits. The ACC and Big East simply don't have that.
Rutgers and Maryland have been retarded by their conferences, not their regions. Theirs are two of the most fertile talent stocks in the North.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2012/11/rutgers_maryland_attractive_to.html