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Big Ten 2015-2016

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dxmnkd316 said:
NBC's contract with Notre Dame is worth about $15 million a year. The BTN's is worth north of $30 million per school.
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Well not everyone gets BTN. Im not even sure every cable provider has it. I have BTN at my house and i watch the games on there. But everyone has NBC so how many more viewers turn into NBC then BTN
 
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John J. MacInnes said:
Michigan paid more into that bowl game pot than they got out last year. Purdue paid in nothing and got a piece. So it's a more constant number that Big Ten schools get, rather than the wild swings that ND gets between years where they go to big bowl games or fleabag ones (or none at all).
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That money is peanuts compared to football and tv money.
 
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fightingsiouxfan16 said:
Well not everyone gets BTN. Im not even sure every cable provider has it. I have BTN at my house and i watch the games on there. But everyone has NBC so how many more viewers turn into NBC then BTN
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So what?

The BTN is still more than twice as lucrative as nbc.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
So what?

The BTN is still more than twice as lucrative as nbc.
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well there is gotta be a reason as to why ND chose to put their sports into the ACC and not the BIG. ACC lacrosse is better then the BIG and im an avid college lacrosse fan. It would be great to get Denver into the ACC but im sure itll never happen. ACC baseball is better then BIG. BIG and ACC basketball is pretty much on the same platform on most years.
 
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Things have changed. Significantly. It's all about revenue now. The second it becomes better financially for Notre dame to jump, they will.
 
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fightingsiouxfan16 said:
Well not everyone gets BTN. Im not even sure every cable provider has it. I have BTN at my house and i watch the games on there. But everyone has NBC so how many more viewers turn into NBC then BTN
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What games do you watch on BTN? Just the hockey? I don't see much to watch on there.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Things have changed. Significantly. It's all about revenue now. The second it becomes better financially for Notre dame to jump, they will.
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Thats how most people feel about ND. I just cant see them leaving NBC. they are such a staple on NBC for the past idk forever on that network every saturday. I would assume that if the BIG would accept ND and let them stay on NBC then yes i can see them jumping
 
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Everything is negotiable. But as I said, the revenue from BTN for Rutgers is twice what Notre Dame makes on their contract.

They let Notre Dame stay on NBCSN for hockey.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Everything is negotiable. But as I said, the revenue from BTN for Rutgers is twice what Notre Dame makes on their contract.

They let Notre Dame stay on NBCSN for hockey.
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Well then possible that ND goes to BIG but for now i cant see them leaving the ACC. As you are saying BTN produces money at a large rate but the sports in the ACC is better.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Things have changed. Significantly. It's all about revenue now. The second it becomes better financially for Notre dame to jump, they will.
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This is exactly right. I know there were some who follow the NCHC who hoped that conference could ultimately lure Notre Dame and Arizona State to join. I was, and am, very much opposed to this idea as a fan of one of the schools in that conference. Those schools have no ties to ours, or the B1G for that matter. They're just renting a spot until the grass looks greener elsewhere.

It's possible that the B1G ends up as a final resting spot for Notre Dame for all sports, but never ASU.
 
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fightingsiouxfan16 said:
Well then possible that ND goes to BIG but for now i cant see them leaving the ACC. As you are saying BTN produces money at a large rate but the sports in the ACC is better.
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I'm not sure how that could be any more irrelevant to Notre Dame's decision making.

But I'll play...

At worst, moving from the ACC to the B1G would be a lateral move in terms of quality of sports.

Baseball and lacrosse are irrelevant. Football and hoops are all that matter.


As I and others have said though, it will be all about the $$$.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I'm not sure how that could be any more irrelevant to Notre Dame's decision making.

But I'll play...

At worst, moving from the ACC to the B1G would be a lateral move in terms of quality of sports.

Baseball and lacrosse are irrelevant. Football and hoops are all that matter.


As I and others have said though, it will be all about the $$$.
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Yes i agree with you but this is my point....if BTN was as lucrative as it sounds then why didnt ND go right to the BIG. Why did they decide that the ACC was a better fit for their sports. does the big ten want them to join fully? and the acc was able to agree that ND only play 5 football games against ACC schools and then the other 7 is against whoever they want.
 
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SJHovey said:
This is exactly right. I know there were some who follow the NCHC who hoped that conference could ultimately lure Notre Dame and Arizona State to join. I was, and am, very much opposed to this idea as a fan of one of the schools in that conference. Those schools have no ties to ours, or the B1G for that matter. They're just renting a spot until the grass looks greener elsewhere.

It's possible that the B1G ends up as a final resting spot for Notre Dame for all sports, but never ASU.
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A 6 conference league - as it stands - sucks.

Too much of the same teams over and over.

For me, being a life long hater of Notre Dame, there is immediate juice to playing them 4 times a year in hockey. Not a ton of juice as there would be if they were added to our football schedule, but more than tOSU, MSU or PSU.

I give a crap about ASU, but there are advantages to an 8 team conference (playoffs, for one) and they aren't any worse than any other team that we have no connection to. Miami has been good lately, but I honestly don't get any more excited about adding them to the B1G than I do ASU.

Well... maybe a bit more, but not enough that I'll lose any sleep over it.


I like Notre Dame's addition and hope they come over in all sports as I would LOVE to get them at Camp Randall.
 
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fightingsiouxfan16 said:
Yes i agree with you but this is my point....if BTN was as lucrative as it sounds then why didnt ND go right to the BIG. Why did they decide that the ACC was a better fit for their sports. does the big ten want them to join fully? and the acc was able to agree that ND only play 5 football games against ACC schools and then the other 7 is against whoever they want.
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Because they're Notre Dame.

Also, because the tipping point between their exclusive contract with NBC and the intrinsic value of maintaining their independence versus the greater revenue of the B1G hadn't been reached.


It's only a matter of time.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Because they're Notre Dame.

Also, because the tipping point between their exclusive contract with NBC and the intrinsic value of maintaining their independence versus the greater revenue of the B1G hadn't been reached.


It's only a matter of time.
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That was basically my point. Their independence is the most important thing to ND. they want quality opponents every week for recruiting purposes. They play USC and Stanford so they get the west coast kids. They play the esat coast for the same reason. They started playing texas. its all for recruiting and for the benefit of them
 
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I'd give it three to five years. Plus what? Another two to make the switch final which is fairly typical.
 
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Notre Dame would get all of the quality opponents and rivals they need in the Big Ten. If I had to guess, they are currently evaluating which games are most valuable. Michigan, Stanford, USC, Navy, Michigan State, Purdue are the ones that come to mind immediately. Three of those are not in the big ten. I could see them scheduling one or two of those a season.

Not to distract us from the original discussion though.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Notre Dame would get all of the quality opponents and rivals they need in the Big Ten. If I had to guess, they are currently evaluating which games are most valuable. Michigan, Stanford, USC, Navy, Michigan State, Purdue are the ones that come to mind immediately. Three of those are not in the big ten. I could see them scheduling one or two of those a season.

Not to distract us from the original discussion though.
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Purdue?? not really much of a game but i understand the interstate stuff. I agree with the rest.
 
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