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Big Ten 2015-2016

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Looks like a change playoff locations to campus sites is also likely.

The Big Ten Ice Hockey tournament currently rotates between Detroit and Minnesota. Saturday’s championship game drew 6,180 just fans to the 18,568-seat Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, even though the Gophers were on the ice.

Traviolia said the tournament “has not met our expectations and our fans’ expectations. You won’t see the status quo going forward.”

So that likely means all or early-round games played on campuses beginning in 2018.
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I stand corrected. Never thought I'd see the day that Notre Dame joined the Big Ten in anything. Over/under date for ASU's announcement as team #8 is the Thursday of semifinal day in Tampa, and I want the under.
 
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Desperate times call for desperate measures. B1G And ND both desperate. ND can't win in Hockey East and tv isn't helping the league so they dazzle the B1G with their NBC games on an online stream with commercials of the ND robot football team (really just wow) and they hope an easier conference will work out for them.
 
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Good get on Notre Dame and I'll take ASU too.

Nice little recruiting cherry to tell a kid they get a weekend in Arizona each season. Alumni and fans might like it too.
 
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Carmine Scarpaglia said:
Desperate times call for desperate measures. B1G And ND both desperate. ND can't win in Hockey East and tv isn't helping the league so they dazzle the B1G with their NBC games on an online stream with commercials of the ND robot football team (really just wow) and they hope an easier conference will work out for them.
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Good take. ND couldn't cut it in HE so off to supposed greener pastures.
 
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Lol. It has nothing to do with competition. Well maybe somewhat.

It's all about the money.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I don't really like the idea of ASU.
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There are better options - options that we'd all like more - but I don't ever see it happening.

Unless of course we can get Notre Dame for lacrosse also (where they are nationally ranked) and drag Denver along and then get Denver for hockey too.


I don't see NoDak ever happening.


Edit: NM... ND in ACC for lacrosse.
 
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Denver just doesn't do much for money.

Notre Dame represents a massive departure from academics being the leader, however, it's probably the one exception to the rule. It's the crown jewel in the big ten's crown.
 
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What is interesting in regards to Notre Dame's lack of AAU membership is it didn't stop the Big Ten from grabbing them for Big Ten hockey as an affiliate member in men's ice hockey. With all the other strengths Notre Dame brings to the table, there will be renewed speculation on bringing them into Big 10 football. ND has a sterling reputation in undergrad education and have made a significant push in recent years to become a leading research and graduate university. If they get an invite to the AAU soon, the Big Ten may finally be successful after many tries in bringing them into the fold.
 
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I think the big negotiation will be around CIC membership. Notre Dame just doesn't have the research powerhouse that all other schools have.

I don't think Notre Dame will be granted AAU membership to get them into the Big Ten. They would likely be the only exception though since it's been the conference's target for decades.

Bottom line, AAU membership is not the hurdle for Notre Dame becoming a full member. Notre Dame itself is.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I think the big negotiation will be around CIC membership. Notre Dame just doesn't have the research powerhouse that all other schools have.

I don't think Notre Dame will be granted AAU membership to get them into the Big Ten. They would likely be the only exception though since it's been the conference's target for decades.

Bottom line, AAU membership is not the hurdle for Notre Dame becoming a full member. Notre Dame itself is.
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Notre Dame's grad research initiatives and faculty standards are on par with some AAU schools, just no invite yet. But Notre Dame's lack of AAU membership didn't stop the Big Ten from trying to grab them a number of times either. To your point, affiliate membership in men's ice hockey may indeed throw the door open to make that option more enticing for ND in football as well without it.

My point was IF they do get an invite from the AAU (which is more than a remote possibility) that would add significant weight to ND "seeking" to join a conference of like-minded academic research institutions.

Delany's exact words in 2010...

"It's very important," Delany said. "AAU membership is an important part of who we are. It was an important part of who we are [when the Big Ten added] Penn State, and it's an important aspect of what makes an institution a research institution, an undergraduate school, a school that serves the public at a high level."

Asked if AAU membership was mandatory for expansion candidates, Delany said, "We're not there. I'm not going to qualify or disqualify, but it's a very important factor."
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SteveO said:
My point was IF they do get an invite from the AAU (which is more than a remote possibility) that would add significant weight to ND "seeking" to join a conference of like-minded academic research institutions.
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Ahhh. Gotcha. I completely agree. It's a bellwether plain and simple.
 
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D2D said:
Huh? They went 15-5-2, finishing 3rd, just 3 points behind the two leaders, and comfortably ahead of nine other teams.
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3 points is listed as "just" 3 points, yet 4 points is "comfortably ahead?" :confused:

Nevermind they got dispatched in the first round of the playoffs at home.
 
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Tater said:
3 points is listed as "just" 3 points, yet 4 points is "comfortably ahead?" :confused:

Nevermind they got dispatched in the first round of the playoffs at home.
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Tater, I was responding to riverchief1, who claimed that Notre Dame "couldn't cut it in HE" which of course is absurd. But to be more accurate, with no exaggeration, I'll re-phrase, leaving out the word "comfortably":
"They went 15-5-2, finishing 3rd, just 3 points behind the two leaders, and ahead of nine other teams."
 
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