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Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Snively - like you, I've chosen to stop talking about this year (save for my end of year recap and analysis within the lines at what went right and what went wrong on the past year). I've also stayed relatively silent during the arguments taking place here about who to blame on the collapse of the end of the year. Personally speaking? There's plenty of time for me to look within statistics and having watched nearly all the games this year to find analysis, and I hope that all of you will be able to put aside your petty differences to see clearly at an objective point of view. My take will come within the next couple of weeks, but I woudl like to sit back and enjoy a little time off from Bentley hockey now that it's all over.
That said, I've put some genuine thought into where I would place blame. Like I've said before, I'm very open about the fact that I'm a Ryan Soderquist guy. I respect him as a man, and I respect what he's accomplished at Bentley. He's been the steward of the program since it turned to Division I, first as a player, then as a coach. Nobody loves the Bentley brand more than him, and he understands, probably more than anyone else, what he's up against in terms of financials and the build of a program from the ground up.
I don't absolve him of all blame for what happened, but I think there's a strong case that this one season shouldn't undo what he's accomplished. This team proved it could hang with the big boys; it just didn't do it consistently enough over the entire body of work of the year. More than just the last month, this team is picking up marquee wins against marquee opponents, and we have to credit Soderquist for bringing in the talent when the program clearly is at a disadvantage. The players, when recruited, have to buy what he's selling. And I don't think there were any *real* problems in the locker room except maybe the frustration of losing to teams.
This team met every team at the worst possible time, and it steamrolled the end of the season on them. I think the team needs to play more consistently, but I believe in the talent that was there. Honestly, scoring goals wasn't the problem, and neither was defending them. They just didn't defend when they were scoring, and they didn't score when they couldn't defend. On an emotional level, I was as angry as anyone when the season ended, but having taken a few days to step back, I can see where the things went wrong and wehre they were going right. I see a couple of things that are being fixed this offseason, and I think the offseason comes at a good time. As the year progressed, I realized this team wasn't going to be a championship team in the AHA this year, and the target is next year.
As for people saying this is all the players fault, I don't believe it is. I also don't believe it's entirely the coaches' fault. At the same time, I don't believe this is a bad team. I just believe this is an unlucky team that unraveled at the worst possible time. You can say that this is a coach's fault for not addressing, but at the same time, this is still a very good team with a very good coach who's won multiple conference Coach of the Year awards. I can almost guarantee that next year, we'll be singing a different tune. For the Soderquist haters, if the team goes to Rochester next year, you'll criticize him for not winning a conference championship. You'll criticize him for not doing it in multiple years. And you'll criticize him for squandering a chance to bring this team up and forward. And that's simply not true.
And for the people who are blaming the players, if the team comes forward, you'll criticize their drive and wonder what the heck happened during this past year. You'll also crap on them for not having hte heart the year before and needing to lose to toughen up (which honestly, might be true). But at the same time, that is also not true. It's hockey. When you're playing bad, you lose. Every team had a rough month, sans Niagara, really. Bentley's just came at the wrong time.
That said, my end of year analysis will come soon, but I'm checking out for a little while. I think we're all a little fried from the frustration at the end of the year, and I think it would serve us all very well to just kick back and relax and then come back with an objective view devoid of what is, right now, apparently high emotion. Believe in Bentley. And, like Snively used to say when people would come here and knock the team something fierce on the boards, know that we're all in this for positive support and positive, constructive commenting.
Snively - like you, I've chosen to stop talking about this year (save for my end of year recap and analysis within the lines at what went right and what went wrong on the past year). I've also stayed relatively silent during the arguments taking place here about who to blame on the collapse of the end of the year. Personally speaking? There's plenty of time for me to look within statistics and having watched nearly all the games this year to find analysis, and I hope that all of you will be able to put aside your petty differences to see clearly at an objective point of view. My take will come within the next couple of weeks, but I woudl like to sit back and enjoy a little time off from Bentley hockey now that it's all over.
That said, I've put some genuine thought into where I would place blame. Like I've said before, I'm very open about the fact that I'm a Ryan Soderquist guy. I respect him as a man, and I respect what he's accomplished at Bentley. He's been the steward of the program since it turned to Division I, first as a player, then as a coach. Nobody loves the Bentley brand more than him, and he understands, probably more than anyone else, what he's up against in terms of financials and the build of a program from the ground up.
I don't absolve him of all blame for what happened, but I think there's a strong case that this one season shouldn't undo what he's accomplished. This team proved it could hang with the big boys; it just didn't do it consistently enough over the entire body of work of the year. More than just the last month, this team is picking up marquee wins against marquee opponents, and we have to credit Soderquist for bringing in the talent when the program clearly is at a disadvantage. The players, when recruited, have to buy what he's selling. And I don't think there were any *real* problems in the locker room except maybe the frustration of losing to teams.
This team met every team at the worst possible time, and it steamrolled the end of the season on them. I think the team needs to play more consistently, but I believe in the talent that was there. Honestly, scoring goals wasn't the problem, and neither was defending them. They just didn't defend when they were scoring, and they didn't score when they couldn't defend. On an emotional level, I was as angry as anyone when the season ended, but having taken a few days to step back, I can see where the things went wrong and wehre they were going right. I see a couple of things that are being fixed this offseason, and I think the offseason comes at a good time. As the year progressed, I realized this team wasn't going to be a championship team in the AHA this year, and the target is next year.
As for people saying this is all the players fault, I don't believe it is. I also don't believe it's entirely the coaches' fault. At the same time, I don't believe this is a bad team. I just believe this is an unlucky team that unraveled at the worst possible time. You can say that this is a coach's fault for not addressing, but at the same time, this is still a very good team with a very good coach who's won multiple conference Coach of the Year awards. I can almost guarantee that next year, we'll be singing a different tune. For the Soderquist haters, if the team goes to Rochester next year, you'll criticize him for not winning a conference championship. You'll criticize him for not doing it in multiple years. And you'll criticize him for squandering a chance to bring this team up and forward. And that's simply not true.
And for the people who are blaming the players, if the team comes forward, you'll criticize their drive and wonder what the heck happened during this past year. You'll also crap on them for not having hte heart the year before and needing to lose to toughen up (which honestly, might be true). But at the same time, that is also not true. It's hockey. When you're playing bad, you lose. Every team had a rough month, sans Niagara, really. Bentley's just came at the wrong time.
That said, my end of year analysis will come soon, but I'm checking out for a little while. I think we're all a little fried from the frustration at the end of the year, and I think it would serve us all very well to just kick back and relax and then come back with an objective view devoid of what is, right now, apparently high emotion. Believe in Bentley. And, like Snively used to say when people would come here and knock the team something fierce on the boards, know that we're all in this for positive support and positive, constructive commenting.
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Pk Specialist
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Allow me to speak for the group you call Soderquist haters.
If the team goes to Rochester next year... well, that has proven to be a bit of a hurdle for Soderquist. They have gone how many times with him at the helm? IF they go, then he and the players will deserve the credit they earned. That's pretty assuming of you to say that people of this group will still bash him. I say, let him get his team to Rochester first, then judge our response(s) once that happens.
Look at the results of this organization over it's entire Division One life. How many players do you know of that have been on the team that entire time? How many coaches? How many players have moved on to high levels of hockey following a Bentley career? (And no, the SP and CHL don't count). How many .500 + seasons? Typically, these sort of things move AD's to find a new coach. Instead, it seems some here are more concerned with the number of "Coach of the Year" awards Soderquist has won
Snively - like you, I've chosen to stop talking about this year (save for my end of year recap and analysis within the lines at what went right and what went wrong on the past year). I've also stayed relatively silent during the arguments taking place here about who to blame on the collapse of the end of the year. Personally speaking? There's plenty of time for me to look within statistics and having watched nearly all the games this year to find analysis, and I hope that all of you will be able to put aside your petty differences to see clearly at an objective point of view. My take will come within the next couple of weeks, but I woudl like to sit back and enjoy a little time off from Bentley hockey now that it's all over.
That said, I've put some genuine thought into where I would place blame. Like I've said before, I'm very open about the fact that I'm a Ryan Soderquist guy. I respect him as a man, and I respect what he's accomplished at Bentley. He's been the steward of the program since it turned to Division I, first as a player, then as a coach. Nobody loves the Bentley brand more than him, and he understands, probably more than anyone else, what he's up against in terms of financials and the build of a program from the ground up.
I don't absolve him of all blame for what happened, but I think there's a strong case that this one season shouldn't undo what he's accomplished. This team proved it could hang with the big boys; it just didn't do it consistently enough over the entire body of work of the year. More than just the last month, this team is picking up marquee wins against marquee opponents, and we have to credit Soderquist for bringing in the talent when the program clearly is at a disadvantage. The players, when recruited, have to buy what he's selling. And I don't think there were any *real* problems in the locker room except maybe the frustration of losing to teams.
This team met every team at the worst possible time, and it steamrolled the end of the season on them. I think the team needs to play more consistently, but I believe in the talent that was there. Honestly, scoring goals wasn't the problem, and neither was defending them. They just didn't defend when they were scoring, and they didn't score when they couldn't defend. On an emotional level, I was as angry as anyone when the season ended, but having taken a few days to step back, I can see where the things went wrong and wehre they were going right. I see a couple of things that are being fixed this offseason, and I think the offseason comes at a good time. As the year progressed, I realized this team wasn't going to be a championship team in the AHA this year, and the target is next year.
As for people saying this is all the players fault, I don't believe it is. I also don't believe it's entirely the coaches' fault. At the same time, I don't believe this is a bad team. I just believe this is an unlucky team that unraveled at the worst possible time. You can say that this is a coach's fault for not addressing, but at the same time, this is still a very good team with a very good coach who's won multiple conference Coach of the Year awards. I can almost guarantee that next year, we'll be singing a different tune. For the Soderquist haters, if the team goes to Rochester next year, you'll criticize him for not winning a conference championship. You'll criticize him for not doing it in multiple years. And you'll criticize him for squandering a chance to bring this team up and forward. And that's simply not true.
And for the people who are blaming the players, if the team comes forward, you'll criticize their drive and wonder what the heck happened during this past year. You'll also crap on them for not having hte heart the year before and needing to lose to toughen up (which honestly, might be true). But at the same time, that is also not true. It's hockey. When you're playing bad, you lose. Every team had a rough month, sans Niagara, really. Bentley's just came at the wrong time.
That said, my end of year analysis will come soon, but I'm checking out for a little while. I think we're all a little fried from the frustration at the end of the year, and I think it would serve us all very well to just kick back and relax and then come back with an objective view devoid of what is, right now, apparently high emotion. Believe in Bentley. And, like Snively used to say when people would come here and knock the team something fierce on the boards, know that we're all in this for positive support and positive, constructive commenting.
Allow me to speak for the group you call Soderquist haters.
If the team goes to Rochester next year... well, that has proven to be a bit of a hurdle for Soderquist. They have gone how many times with him at the helm? IF they go, then he and the players will deserve the credit they earned. That's pretty assuming of you to say that people of this group will still bash him. I say, let him get his team to Rochester first, then judge our response(s) once that happens.
Look at the results of this organization over it's entire Division One life. How many players do you know of that have been on the team that entire time? How many coaches? How many players have moved on to high levels of hockey following a Bentley career? (And no, the SP and CHL don't count). How many .500 + seasons? Typically, these sort of things move AD's to find a new coach. Instead, it seems some here are more concerned with the number of "Coach of the Year" awards Soderquist has won
Allow me to speak for the group you call Soderquist haters.
If the team goes to Rochester next year... well, that has proven to be a bit of a hurdle for Soderquist. They have gone how many times with him at the helm? IF they go, then he and the players will deserve the credit they earned. That's pretty assuming of you to say that people of this group will still bash him. I say, let him get his team to Rochester first, then judge our response(s) once that happens.
Look at the results of this organization over it's entire Division One life. How many players do you know of that have been on the team that entire time? How many coaches? How many players have moved on to high levels of hockey following a Bentley career? (And no, the SP and CHL don't count). How many .500 + seasons? Typically, these sort of things move AD's to find a new coach. Instead, it seems some here are more concerned with the number of "Coach of the Year" awards Soderquist has won
Well I respect that opinion but like I said - I'm taking emotion out of this so I can examine the season through what went well and what didn't. Coaches and players are not exempt from praise or criticism.
On that note, I'm going to take off for a couple weeks save for some stories about postseason accolades. Hope everyone stays well.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Matt Blomquist and Andrew Gladiuk are named to the AHA All-Rookie Team, the second year in a row the Falcons have had players named and second conseuctive year they've had multiple players named.
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/14/gladiuk-blomquist-named-all-rookie/
Matt Blomquist and Andrew Gladiuk are named to the AHA All-Rookie Team, the second year in a row the Falcons have had players named and second conseuctive year they've had multiple players named.
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/14/gladiuk-blomquist-named-all-rookie/
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Brett Hartung has joined the Orlando Solar Bears of the ECHL.
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/15/hartung-to-echl/
Brett Hartung has joined the Orlando Solar Bears of the ECHL.
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/15/hartung-to-echl/
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Here's the list of incoming recruits for next year that we know of so far:
Vincent Russo-F 3/1/2013 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 190 1-3-94
Brendan White-LD 1/28/2013 2014 Kimball Union 6'1 180 7-8-94
Billy Eiserman-LD 1/24/2013 Chicago (USHL) 5'11 187 7-21-92 transfer eligible 2014
Tyler Deresky-W 12/5/2012 Amarillo (NAHL) 6'2 200 12-9-92
Brady Shaw-LW 10/29/2012 Surrey (BCHL) 6'1 202 10-2-92
Mike Berry-LD 10/22/2012 Sherwood Park (AJHL) 6'1 202 -93
Max French-RW 2/28/2012 West Kelowna (BCHL) 5'9 175 10-7-92 49-9-14-23-19 49-9-14-23-19
It comes from Chris Heisenberg's list which is the most up to date and comprehensive.
A couple of things I know from around the block is that a) Shaw is like Gladiuk who should be an impact freshman and offseason candidate for people to watch, b) French is completely hair-on-fire who Bentley locked up to an LOI last year, and c) Tyler Deresky is a thumper, much in the form Bentley didn't have this year. He's not scoring goals but he's going to hit people. He's also a big man who can play on the 4th line, something Bentley hasn't had in years.
Here's the list of incoming recruits for next year that we know of so far:
Vincent Russo-F 3/1/2013 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 190 1-3-94
Brendan White-LD 1/28/2013 2014 Kimball Union 6'1 180 7-8-94
Billy Eiserman-LD 1/24/2013 Chicago (USHL) 5'11 187 7-21-92 transfer eligible 2014
Tyler Deresky-W 12/5/2012 Amarillo (NAHL) 6'2 200 12-9-92
Brady Shaw-LW 10/29/2012 Surrey (BCHL) 6'1 202 10-2-92
Mike Berry-LD 10/22/2012 Sherwood Park (AJHL) 6'1 202 -93
Max French-RW 2/28/2012 West Kelowna (BCHL) 5'9 175 10-7-92 49-9-14-23-19 49-9-14-23-19
It comes from Chris Heisenberg's list which is the most up to date and comprehensive.
A couple of things I know from around the block is that a) Shaw is like Gladiuk who should be an impact freshman and offseason candidate for people to watch, b) French is completely hair-on-fire who Bentley locked up to an LOI last year, and c) Tyler Deresky is a thumper, much in the form Bentley didn't have this year. He's not scoring goals but he's going to hit people. He's also a big man who can play on the 4th line, something Bentley hasn't had in years.
Here's the list of incoming recruits for next year that we know of so far:
Vincent Russo-F 3/1/2013 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 190 1-3-94
Brendan White-LD 1/28/2013 2014 Kimball Union 6'1 180 7-8-94
Billy Eiserman-LD 1/24/2013 Chicago (USHL) 5'11 187 7-21-92 transfer eligible 2014
Tyler Deresky-W 12/5/2012 Amarillo (NAHL) 6'2 200 12-9-92
Brady Shaw-LW 10/29/2012 Surrey (BCHL) 6'1 202 10-2-92
Mike Berry-LD 10/22/2012 Sherwood Park (AJHL) 6'1 202 -93
Max French-RW 2/28/2012 West Kelowna (BCHL) 5'9 175 10-7-92 49-9-14-23-19 49-9-14-23-19
It comes from Chris Heisenberg's list which is the most up to date and comprehensive.
A couple of things I know from around the block is that a) Shaw is like Gladiuk who should be an impact freshman and offseason candidate for people to watch, b) French is completely hair-on-fire who Bentley locked up to an LOI last year, and c) Tyler Deresky is a thumper, much in the form Bentley didn't have this year. He's not scoring goals but he's going to hit people. He's also a big man who can play on the 4th line, something Bentley hasn't had in years.
As great an impact as Gladiuk and Blomquist made the first half this past season, what I want to see next season is senior leadership. It seemed to me that the three seniors from this past season never really had much chance to demonstrate leadership, like the three d-men and two penalty killers from the third or fourth lines did the year before.
beenthere77
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Just for the record, you CANNOT sign an LOI until the year prior to entering a college. It either can be in the early signing period, for hockey a week in November, if not signed in the fall prior to year of entry signing can't be done until mid April. Just saying
Just for the record, you CANNOT sign an LOI until the year prior to entering a college. It either can be in the early signing period, for hockey a week in November, if not signed in the fall prior to year of entry signing can't be done until mid April. Just saying
Here's the list of incoming recruits for next year that we know of so far:
Vincent Russo-F 3/1/2013 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 190 1-3-94
Brendan White-LD 1/28/2013 2014 Kimball Union 6'1 180 7-8-94
Billy Eiserman-LD 1/24/2013 Chicago (USHL) 5'11 187 7-21-92 transfer eligible 2014
Tyler Deresky-W 12/5/2012 Amarillo (NAHL) 6'2 200 12-9-92
Brady Shaw-LW 10/29/2012 Surrey (BCHL) 6'1 202 10-2-92
Mike Berry-LD 10/22/2012 Sherwood Park (AJHL) 6'1 202 -93
Max French-RW 2/28/2012 West Kelowna (BCHL) 5'9 175 10-7-92 49-9-14-23-19 49-9-14-23-19
It comes from Chris Heisenberg's list which is the most up to date and comprehensive.
A couple of things I know from around the block is that a) Shaw is like Gladiuk who should be an impact freshman and offseason candidate for people to watch, b) French is completely hair-on-fire who Bentley locked up to an LOI last year, and c) Tyler Deresky is a thumper, much in the form Bentley didn't have this year. He's not scoring goals but he's going to hit people. He's also a big man who can play on the 4th line, something Bentley hasn't had in years.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
add 1 more to your list.... http://www.lincolnstarsblog.com/Here's the list of incoming recruits for next year that we know of so far:
Vincent Russo-F 3/1/2013 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 190 1-3-94
Brendan White-LD 1/28/2013 2014 Kimball Union 6'1 180 7-8-94
Billy Eiserman-LD 1/24/2013 Chicago (USHL) 5'11 187 7-21-92 transfer eligible 2014
Tyler Deresky-W 12/5/2012 Amarillo (NAHL) 6'2 200 12-9-92
Brady Shaw-LW 10/29/2012 Surrey (BCHL) 6'1 202 10-2-92
Mike Berry-LD 10/22/2012 Sherwood Park (AJHL) 6'1 202 -93
Max French-RW 2/28/2012 West Kelowna (BCHL) 5'9 175 10-7-92 49-9-14-23-19 49-9-14-23-19
It comes from Chris Heisenberg's list which is the most up to date and comprehensive.
A couple of things I know from around the block is that a) Shaw is like Gladiuk who should be an impact freshman and offseason candidate for people to watch, b) French is completely hair-on-fire who Bentley locked up to an LOI last year, and c) Tyler Deresky is a thumper, much in the form Bentley didn't have this year. He's not scoring goals but he's going to hit people. He's also a big man who can play on the 4th line, something Bentley hasn't had in years.
beenthere77
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
We stunk in every facet of the game and it was our worst game of the year,” Pecknold said. “Obviously, we can’t have that at a time like this. I can’t explain it; I can only accept the blame for it. It’s almost inexplicable how bad we played today. Ultimately, it is my responsibility to get these guys ready, so I’ll take full responsibility
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/22/quinnipiac-forced-to-regroup-after-worst-game-of-the-year/
If big program coaches can call themselves out ...... and as a side note blomquist and the rest of the injured were back for the final two losses vs a team that these guys sweeped mid season.
We stunk in every facet of the game and it was our worst game of the year,” Pecknold said. “Obviously, we can’t have that at a time like this. I can’t explain it; I can only accept the blame for it. It’s almost inexplicable how bad we played today. Ultimately, it is my responsibility to get these guys ready, so I’ll take full responsibility
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/22/quinnipiac-forced-to-regroup-after-worst-game-of-the-year/
If big program coaches can call themselves out ...... and as a side note blomquist and the rest of the injured were back for the final two losses vs a team that these guys sweeped mid season.
I think there has to be some accountability on this roster somehow. Right now, there's none. Yous ee them rolling one line out there consistently, and that one line is skating in mud. There's no emotion unless the team is making a mad dash comeback. There's no flow. The team is completely disjointed, and at the least there needs to be some frustration shown outwardly by someone.
Gensler is playing like he's out there for himself now, and Grieve is trying too hard to do too much. Komm, all of a sudden, can't stop water if he fell out of a boat. And the loss of Blomquist is exposing the defense ofr being even worse than it was. And Blomquist is only a freshman!
If they're home against Canisius, it's a loss in 3 games. With any luck, they'll somehow get Army in the first round.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
I've followed ECAC longer than I have Atlantic Hockey. Rand pecknold is a dingus. It had nothing to do with Qpac in this game. They got manhandled by Brown, and he also never gave them any type of indication that brown did anything right to win that game. I respect the hell out of Quinnipiac and their fans, but you should probably do some more research before you look into anything else.
That said, this is not a comment on Ryan Soderquist. But this is a comment on someone saying Pecknold is awesome. The consolation game in ECAC was the Arrogant Festival between Yale and Qpac. Two coaches who are among the most arrogant people in college hockey.
We stunk in every facet of the game and it was our worst game of the year,” Pecknold said. “Obviously, we can’t have that at a time like this. I can’t explain it; I can only accept the blame for it. It’s almost inexplicable how bad we played today. Ultimately, it is my responsibility to get these guys ready, so I’ll take full responsibility
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/22/quinnipiac-forced-to-regroup-after-worst-game-of-the-year/
If big program coaches can call themselves out ...... and as a side note blomquist and the rest of the injured were back for the final two losses vs a team that these guys sweeped mid season.
I've followed ECAC longer than I have Atlantic Hockey. Rand pecknold is a dingus. It had nothing to do with Qpac in this game. They got manhandled by Brown, and he also never gave them any type of indication that brown did anything right to win that game. I respect the hell out of Quinnipiac and their fans, but you should probably do some more research before you look into anything else.
That said, this is not a comment on Ryan Soderquist. But this is a comment on someone saying Pecknold is awesome. The consolation game in ECAC was the Arrogant Festival between Yale and Qpac. Two coaches who are among the most arrogant people in college hockey.
Pk Specialist
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
You must not know Ryan Soderquist very well
I've followed ECAC longer than I have Atlantic Hockey. Rand pecknold is a dingus. It had nothing to do with Qpac in this game. They got manhandled by Brown, and he also never gave them any type of indication that brown did anything right to win that game. I respect the hell out of Quinnipiac and their fans, but you should probably do some more research before you look into anything else.
That said, this is not a comment on Ryan Soderquist. But this is a comment on someone saying Pecknold is awesome. The consolation game in ECAC was the Arrogant Festival between Yale and Qpac. Two coaches who are among the most arrogant people in college hockey.
You must not know Ryan Soderquist very well
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Ok folks -- starting up the 2013 offseason. Not ready to close the book on this thread yet until the school year ends or we start looking at next year. This is more of a look back than a look forward, so I'm keeping it going here. Starting up with a look at the O:
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/26/offensively-inconsistent/
Ok folks -- starting up the 2013 offseason. Not ready to close the book on this thread yet until the school year ends or we start looking at next year. This is more of a look back than a look forward, so I'm keeping it going here. Starting up with a look at the O:
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/26/offensively-inconsistent/
Ok folks -- starting up the 2013 offseason. Not ready to close the book on this thread yet until the school year ends or we start looking at next year. This is more of a look back than a look forward, so I'm keeping it going here. Starting up with a look at the O:
http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/03/26/offensively-inconsistent/
Dan good article. I am not sure if you were clear enough at times but I would agree the coaches picked a path and failed. Moving Switzer off the first line and then moving grieve and Gensler to the third line was crazy. The team had no leaders and the line that should lead was split 2/3rds of the line put in as the 3rd line was simply a poor decision. Not winning face offs was problematic and the defense was poor. Pick leaders and hold them accountable. The players have to learn that they are teammates and individual glory is second to team success. If players don't buy into team sit them! During the hideous 2nd half we saw plenty of I and not enough of we as the team fell from a good offense to no offense. It is the coaches job to get them straight. Pick your lines and live with them all year. Big hint don't move your best line to 3rd line status!
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
I feel like the players didn't do anything to help themselves and forced the coaches' hand, which bordered on desperation at times. I fancied it up a little bit, but at its heart, I really believe that they recruited too many guys to play the second line and tried to force square pegs into circle holes. They didn't have enough leadership or energy guys to get guys to do the little things. I look at Brown Univ. over in ECAC. Jake Goldberg was a forward who was languishing on the 3rd line or not playing at all. His career stagnated because he was a 2nd line forward who couldn't play on the 2nd line, and he wasn't the right fit for the 3rd line in that system. This year, due to injuries, the coaches asked Goldberg to jump back and play defense. Goldberg turned into a top 4 defenseman and one of the best players on the ice for Brown by the end of the year. And that's a 7th place team that went to the conference finals in a league much tougher than the AHA.
That said, I think the same happened at Bentley, but there was no "team first" mentality. I don't know who, but certain players didn't give up the puck or the body and I think that's a thing that killed them. They didn't have the same type of leadership; there was definite leadership but the team wasn't a pack of guys who could have a physical practice killing each other. They really missed that type of dynamic from the previous year. That led to a lackadaisical style on the ice. In the end, the coaches made moves because they simply had to, but the moves they made failed. You can't expect someone like Gladiuk, who's a 2nd line skater as a freshman, to start skating top line. Grieve isn't built to ever play on the 3rd line. And Gensler really fought the puck for a long period of time, but because the coaching staff simply couldn't sit him down because of a lack of bodies, they had to just drop the whole line. It was a bad move; I'd have rather Gensler sat out a couple of games than have him skate on the 3rd line because his job isn't an energy guy. But there weren't enough bodies when the time came to bench him.
My personal opinion centers on the thought that when things got rough, the coaches tried to do too much and overcompensated. They didn't have the right horses for the moves they made, and it caused some more issues than it was worth. I think they have the right guys coming in to create 2 deep scoring lines, and I think they have the right guys coming in to fill out the back end of the rotation. And I think the team could be better in two years than next year. Do I think they can compete for a title next year? Yes, but only if they're able to skate in predetermined jobs that have players doing x,y, or z or they sit on the bench. It has to be a hard line.
Dan good article. I am not sure if you were clear enough at times but I would agree the coaches picked a path and failed. Moving Switzer off the first line and then moving grieve and Gensler to the third line was crazy. The team had no leaders and the line that should lead was split 2/3rds of the line put in as the 3rd line was simply a poor decision. Not winning face offs was problematic and the defense was poor. Pick leaders and hold them accountable. The players have to learn that they are teammates and individual glory is second to team success. If players don't buy into team sit them! During the hideous 2nd half we saw plenty of I and not enough of we as the team fell from a good offense to no offense. It is the coaches job to get them straight. Pick your lines and live with them all year. Big hint don't move your best line to 3rd line status!
I feel like the players didn't do anything to help themselves and forced the coaches' hand, which bordered on desperation at times. I fancied it up a little bit, but at its heart, I really believe that they recruited too many guys to play the second line and tried to force square pegs into circle holes. They didn't have enough leadership or energy guys to get guys to do the little things. I look at Brown Univ. over in ECAC. Jake Goldberg was a forward who was languishing on the 3rd line or not playing at all. His career stagnated because he was a 2nd line forward who couldn't play on the 2nd line, and he wasn't the right fit for the 3rd line in that system. This year, due to injuries, the coaches asked Goldberg to jump back and play defense. Goldberg turned into a top 4 defenseman and one of the best players on the ice for Brown by the end of the year. And that's a 7th place team that went to the conference finals in a league much tougher than the AHA.
That said, I think the same happened at Bentley, but there was no "team first" mentality. I don't know who, but certain players didn't give up the puck or the body and I think that's a thing that killed them. They didn't have the same type of leadership; there was definite leadership but the team wasn't a pack of guys who could have a physical practice killing each other. They really missed that type of dynamic from the previous year. That led to a lackadaisical style on the ice. In the end, the coaches made moves because they simply had to, but the moves they made failed. You can't expect someone like Gladiuk, who's a 2nd line skater as a freshman, to start skating top line. Grieve isn't built to ever play on the 3rd line. And Gensler really fought the puck for a long period of time, but because the coaching staff simply couldn't sit him down because of a lack of bodies, they had to just drop the whole line. It was a bad move; I'd have rather Gensler sat out a couple of games than have him skate on the 3rd line because his job isn't an energy guy. But there weren't enough bodies when the time came to bench him.
My personal opinion centers on the thought that when things got rough, the coaches tried to do too much and overcompensated. They didn't have the right horses for the moves they made, and it caused some more issues than it was worth. I think they have the right guys coming in to create 2 deep scoring lines, and I think they have the right guys coming in to fill out the back end of the rotation. And I think the team could be better in two years than next year. Do I think they can compete for a title next year? Yes, but only if they're able to skate in predetermined jobs that have players doing x,y, or z or they sit on the bench. It has to be a hard line.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
I don't know why I'm going to respond to this, but I do know Ryan Soderquist, and he's no Rand Pecknold. Rand Pecknold and Keith Allain are the two biggest jerks I've met in a very long time. Ryan Soderquist cares about the program and the growth of the program; all it takes is a conversation with him to realize that. Allain cares about himself more than anyone else on the planet, and Rand simply forgot where he came from.
You must not know Ryan Soderquist very well
I don't know why I'm going to respond to this, but I do know Ryan Soderquist, and he's no Rand Pecknold. Rand Pecknold and Keith Allain are the two biggest jerks I've met in a very long time. Ryan Soderquist cares about the program and the growth of the program; all it takes is a conversation with him to realize that. Allain cares about himself more than anyone else on the planet, and Rand simply forgot where he came from.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
I am not sure why I am responding but I think you and I didn't watch the same team. Offensively they were doing fine until coach started to make changes that really didn't
make sense. Clearly Switzer struggled in the beginning but that was no reason to break the line up. He then continue to put different combinations of Grieve, Gensler and flavor of the day. Most sensible people would have either stayed with what worked in the prior year or make one move and stick with it. Instead he took the two moved them primarily to the 3rd line and took the confidence out of the two award winners from the prior year. So when you say you should of sat Gensler I guess you are saying that he may have been the problem. I watched every game and saw the kid struggle but even during that timeframe he made passes to people thst should of buried it yet they didn't. if you haven't notice the past two years gensler has had more assist than goals more like a center. I submit to you he should be the center not the right wing. He has a vision thing that needs to be used at the center position. I believe one of the broadcast your color analysis pointed it out.
That being said the problems on the team were numerous or at least it was from this end of a computer. Poor defense that never closed gaps and senior leadership that never
showed on the ice.. I never saw this last group go out and make a difference. Say what you will about Nudy but he never gave up and worked his you know what off. This year's team had no one like him. Goal tending was an issue but I chalk that up to the poor defense. Good defense that can make the first pass makes the team. Once the forwards get the first good pass it is their job to score and it shouldn't be left to one or two guys. You need the energy line one that will go out and bust
someone and we know we had no such animal. Unless you know what went on in the locker room then you don't know who was leading what so we should all consider what went on as and unknown. So long story short the seniors coming to their final year can and should do something more as they have a talented group of forwards. Given the fact that they might pick up some decent defense and the goaltending steps up their is no reason why the team could not make it the the AHA finals. it takes a team and it takes team leadership to make it to the finals. If the incoming seniors care and somehow I think they will then they will get the team to the finals. They will need help from
the incoming freshman but an energy line, defense that can do something and forwards committed to the team can make it happen.
I am not sure why I am responding but I think you and I didn't watch the same team. Offensively they were doing fine until coach started to make changes that really didn't
make sense. Clearly Switzer struggled in the beginning but that was no reason to break the line up. He then continue to put different combinations of Grieve, Gensler and flavor of the day. Most sensible people would have either stayed with what worked in the prior year or make one move and stick with it. Instead he took the two moved them primarily to the 3rd line and took the confidence out of the two award winners from the prior year. So when you say you should of sat Gensler I guess you are saying that he may have been the problem. I watched every game and saw the kid struggle but even during that timeframe he made passes to people thst should of buried it yet they didn't. if you haven't notice the past two years gensler has had more assist than goals more like a center. I submit to you he should be the center not the right wing. He has a vision thing that needs to be used at the center position. I believe one of the broadcast your color analysis pointed it out.
That being said the problems on the team were numerous or at least it was from this end of a computer. Poor defense that never closed gaps and senior leadership that never
showed on the ice.. I never saw this last group go out and make a difference. Say what you will about Nudy but he never gave up and worked his you know what off. This year's team had no one like him. Goal tending was an issue but I chalk that up to the poor defense. Good defense that can make the first pass makes the team. Once the forwards get the first good pass it is their job to score and it shouldn't be left to one or two guys. You need the energy line one that will go out and bust
someone and we know we had no such animal. Unless you know what went on in the locker room then you don't know who was leading what so we should all consider what went on as and unknown. So long story short the seniors coming to their final year can and should do something more as they have a talented group of forwards. Given the fact that they might pick up some decent defense and the goaltending steps up their is no reason why the team could not make it the the AHA finals. it takes a team and it takes team leadership to make it to the finals. If the incoming seniors care and somehow I think they will then they will get the team to the finals. They will need help from
the incoming freshman but an energy line, defense that can do something and forwards committed to the team can make it happen.
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins
Agree with all of this. Like I said, dropping Gensler to the 3rd line was a mistake, and I honestly think it got everyone out of their game. If he really needed a night off the top line to rediscover his game, then he shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I believe a night off is sometimes beneficial. I would've never dropped that first line down to the third line because the job of the 3rd line is something they can't possibly do. I believe in keeping with the concrete job descriptions of each individual line, and it's obvious that didn't happen.
I think we're saying the same things, albeit in different manners. As I mentioned before, leadership was an issue on this team on the ice. There was no vocal leader in the games, and I think we've said that several times. The team seemed disjointed, and there was no heart and soul type player making the calls. Someone will need to step up next year and fill that void. I think Grieve is probably the player most likely to do it; he is such a respectable young man that his attitude towards the game and life in general is worthy of a letter.
Of the recruits coming in, three are proven animals. I think Deresky is going to fit nicely onto the fourth line, and I really think Max French is going to be a wake up call for a couple of different guys. I'd like to see Meads get extended minutes on the third or fourth line; the kid played his tail off in a couple of different games, delivered hits, made the most of some seriously limited minutes. He deserves a second look next year; he's built like Koudys and Nudy, and he can play with that same style. I'd love to see him turn into a fourth line, Jamie Nudy-type player.
I am not sure why I am responding but I think you and I didn't watch the same team. Offensively they were doing fine until coach started to make changes that really didn't
make sense. Clearly Switzer struggled in the beginning but that was no reason to break the line up. He then continue to put different combinations of Grieve, Gensler and flavor of the day. Most sensible people would have either stayed with what worked in the prior year or make one move and stick with it. Instead he took the two moved them primarily to the 3rd line and took the confidence out of the two award winners from the prior year. So when you say you should of sat Gensler I guess you are saying that he may have been the problem. I watched every game and saw the kid struggle but even during that timeframe he made passes to people thst should of buried it yet they didn't. if you haven't notice the past two years gensler has had more assist than goals more like a center. I submit to you he should be the center not the right wing. He has a vision thing that needs to be used at the center position. I believe one of the broadcast your color analysis pointed it out.
That being said the problems on the team were numerous or at least it was from this end of a computer. Poor defense that never closed gaps and senior leadership that never
showed on the ice.. I never saw this last group go out and make a difference. Say what you will about Nudy but he never gave up and worked his you know what off. This year's team had no one like him. Goal tending was an issue but I chalk that up to the poor defense. Good defense that can make the first pass makes the team. Once the forwards get the first good pass it is their job to score and it shouldn't be left to one or two guys. You need the energy line one that will go out and bust
someone and we know we had no such animal. Unless you know what went on in the locker room then you don't know who was leading what so we should all consider what went on as and unknown. So long story short the seniors coming to their final year can and should do something more as they have a talented group of forwards. Given the fact that they might pick up some decent defense and the goaltending steps up their is no reason why the team could not make it the the AHA finals. it takes a team and it takes team leadership to make it to the finals. If the incoming seniors care and somehow I think they will then they will get the team to the finals. They will need help from
the incoming freshman but an energy line, defense that can do something and forwards committed to the team can make it happen.
Agree with all of this. Like I said, dropping Gensler to the 3rd line was a mistake, and I honestly think it got everyone out of their game. If he really needed a night off the top line to rediscover his game, then he shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I believe a night off is sometimes beneficial. I would've never dropped that first line down to the third line because the job of the 3rd line is something they can't possibly do. I believe in keeping with the concrete job descriptions of each individual line, and it's obvious that didn't happen.
I think we're saying the same things, albeit in different manners. As I mentioned before, leadership was an issue on this team on the ice. There was no vocal leader in the games, and I think we've said that several times. The team seemed disjointed, and there was no heart and soul type player making the calls. Someone will need to step up next year and fill that void. I think Grieve is probably the player most likely to do it; he is such a respectable young man that his attitude towards the game and life in general is worthy of a letter.
Of the recruits coming in, three are proven animals. I think Deresky is going to fit nicely onto the fourth line, and I really think Max French is going to be a wake up call for a couple of different guys. I'd like to see Meads get extended minutes on the third or fourth line; the kid played his tail off in a couple of different games, delivered hits, made the most of some seriously limited minutes. He deserves a second look next year; he's built like Koudys and Nudy, and he can play with that same style. I'd love to see him turn into a fourth line, Jamie Nudy-type player.