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Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

Understandable if you want to say that the program wouldn't be where it's at today without Soderquist. Yes there has been a good bit of history built over the years and to his credit he kept the program alive. I think it's foolish to contend that he is what the program needs to step up to the next level though. Bentley may have a similar story to Lowell and Merrimack but it's got a heck of a lot more potential to be great than either of those schools. The academic factor alone gives it much more credibility. If the school would play its cards right, it could be a serious threat for the ivy's in the area in terms of an all-around package for hockey recruits. Soderquist did well to bring the program out of the D-2 slums, but to say he is also the guy to bring it to the next level is questionable. Go down the list of players you named up there. Bentley has consistently had leadership issues over the years. This as a direct extension of the coach and the atmosphere he creates around the rink. The other big problem that I've noticed (and I see repeating itself) is inconsistency. You see them take down UMass (#15 at the time) in 2010 only to end the season early against Uconn. The next year it was an early exit at the hands of Sacred Heart. I hope they can finish strong this year and it looks like they may, but there have been hints of inconsistency already (9-1 win against UAH followed up by a 5-rip display at Harvard the next night)

And in response to your statement about leadership, Bentley has recruited leaders. This year's team is full of them from my vantage point. Koudys is a great leader, and Gensler leads by example. Last year, Switzer, Nudy, and Bonnett were solid leaders, especially the d-men. The last couple of White recruiting classes brought in guys brought in the wrong guys. And at Brown, if you look up and down the roster, they're going through the same issue. They have talent, but no leaders.

Dan - you're familiar with the Brown program too. Would you agree with that statement?
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

And in response to your statement about leadership, Bentley has recruited leaders. This year's team is full of them from my vantage point. Koudys is a great leader, and Gensler leads by example. Last year, Switzer, Nudy, and Bonnett were solid leaders, especially the d-men. The last couple of White recruiting classes brought in guys brought in the wrong guys. And at Brown, if you look up and down the roster, they're going through the same issue. They have talent, but no leaders.

Dan - you're familiar with the Brown program too. Would you agree with that statement?

Brown's had some issues with leadership over the past couple of years but that's because that coaching staff had to quite literally gut the entire program to get four years of ground level guys. I think it's an unfair indictment to say that the recruitment of players without leadership qualities is the fault of the coaching staff. I think that's an intangible that, honestly, can't be coached.

I don't fault Bentley's coaching staff for recruiting guys who "aren't leaders." If you look at a team, the guys who are the "best players" on the ice are seldom the most vocal. You need mroe of the hustle energy guys. Bentley does not win games on one line alone; neither does Brown. They win games when the second and third lines do damage, and in Bentley's case, when the fourth line gets involved. It's a comprehensive game plan where the coaches are educating their players.

I believe in the Bentley coaching staff because they've shown they can build the program. If Bentley had not improved steadily over the past two years, I would be buying in that the staff has lost touch with the ability to recruit. But the fact that they're bringing in a high quality recruit and forming a strong team for their purposes in such an atmosphere where Bentley does not have the best recruiting base is amazing. They have academics, yes, but athletic facilities, especially hockey ones, are sorely lacking. They're not going to beat out Holy Cross for recruits, nor are they going to beat out most of the west. They need to find all the diamonds in the rough, and I think the coaching staff has done a great job assembling a strong team out of guys that were recruited by the Yales and RPIs of the world but told to stay in juniors for one more year.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

"The consistency is, indeed, an issue, but it's hardly the coaches' fault"
"I don't fault Bentley's coaching staff for recruiting guys who 'aren't leaders.'"

I think you need to step back and evaluate this program compared to all others in the country. There is a definite reason Bentley has not received any votes to be ranked. There have been good teams to come through the program, but ultimately they can't hold it together for full seasons consistently. If you truly believe you cannot hold the staff accountable for the two things mentioned above... well you're going to have very little turnover- that's for sure. Sometimes it takes lighting a fire under someone to get them/ the program going. My argument is simple- with the current establishment (AD's, coaches, overall mentality on sports at the school), Bentley will not magically rise to be an elite program on the east coast.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

"The consistency is, indeed, an issue, but it's hardly the coaches' fault"
"I don't fault Bentley's coaching staff for recruiting guys who 'aren't leaders.'"

I think you need to step back and evaluate this program compared to all others in the country. There is a definite reason Bentley has not received any votes to be ranked. There have been good teams to come through the program, but ultimately they can't hold it together for full seasons consistently. If you truly believe you cannot hold the staff accountable for the two things mentioned above... well you're going to have very little turnover- that's for sure. Sometimes it takes lighting a fire under someone to get them/ the program going. My argument is simple- with the current establishment (AD's, coaches, overall mentality on sports at the school), Bentley will not magically rise to be an elite program on the east coast.

I can see your argument, and I think there are valid points and concerns. You're more than welcome to your personal opinion, but I'll counter with a couple of statistics for you based on my time here (roughly 5 years). Snively - I know you and Humanoid both have been associated longer. So for older material, I'll defer to that. So I'll go down the list of things here and address them one by one to give an honest and educated response based on my experience and information I've gathered over the course of my tenure and association with the team.

1) Attendance/Backing of the administration: Five years ago, if the team drew a legitimate 150 people to the JAR, it was a lot of people. It's something I've written about at length on the website. The school has made a marked investment in the team to provide shuttle buses for the students to and from campus from and to the rink. This never existed before two years ago. The school has also made investments in terms of incentives for giveaways to make sure they're inundating the students with gratuitous merch. There have been Bentley hockey t-shirt giveaways before, but now they're doing Bentley Falcon trash cans and God knows what else. The crowd might be dead on some nights, but Bentley is now packing stands like they didn't before. Is it the ideal being off campus? Absolutely not. Far from it. But the team is drawing close to 800-1,000 during each game, including nights when the senior class has a bus going into Boston. They've developed associations with a fraternity, and they've developed a core group of supporters that didn't exist until the last two seasons. The ability to get the students to the game is a direct link to the school sinking money into the program.

2) Recruiting: The coaching staff, meanwhile, has, in the past four years, built the program back from a gutted state, which has been mentioned. What I don't think you understand about the recruiting process is that a player is, for lack of a better term, tied to a coach. When the coaching staff has turnover, which Bentley has had in the last five years - it has not, like you say, remained status quo, with needing to replace Mark White with Ben Murphy - recruiting inevitably takes a dive. At other programs like a Boston College or even at an Air Force or even still at a Brown or Harvard, assistant coach turnover doesn't matter as much because of the school's hockey brand. College athletes come to Bentley to play for this coaching staff, and that's a reputation the staff has had to build among pipeline recruiting areas and teams. Ryan Soderquist has a reputation among those leagues, but you have to remember the bulk of recruiting is done by assistant coaching. When Mark White left, Ben Murphy became the primary source of recruiting. He's on the road while the team is playing. And that means the recruiting had to change. For Coach Murphy, this is his first Division I job. He gets this job at a school where there is only one assistant coach's slot, not including the strength coach Charlie Carkin. Most colleges have recruiting coordinators and multiple assistant coaches. Brown, where Mark White is now the associate head coach, now utilizes three assistants, including their (off the roster) goaltending consultant.

3) The team's ability to get votes in a poll: Look, Rome wasn't built in a day; you'll be hard-pressed to find any AHA teams that consistently achieve votes in the national poll. And even then, it never goes on conference record, it only goes on overall record. Bentley is still a few steps behind the Harvards or Dartmouths of the world; okay, well they have 50 years of hockey tradition and a name recognition. Their academics are stronger than Bentley on their school name (the Ivy League >>>> everyone). And, in Harvard's case, they have a national reputation that usually gets them the Notre Dame Football syndrome. AHA isn't Hockey East; it's going to have to fight that much harder to get votes. If a team had Niagara's start to the year, including the five shutouts, and they played in the ECAC, they'd be a top 10 team. Instead, NU is ranked, what, like 16th. And the first loss drops them out of the poll. That's a stigma the league has fought in recent years, but it'll always have it thanks to the lack of SOS. That's something that outweighs Bentley. I'd rather extend the statement to say that Bentley has built and gotten better because some of the bigger names around New England are willing to gamble and play them. If Harvard or Dartmouth loses to Bentley, that's a disaster on the local radar. The fact that they're willing to play them with such a limited number of OOCs illustrates the Falcons arrival on the local scene.

4) The current establishment: Bentley has done more in the last 3 years to get this program support than it has most others. Okay, they don't have an on-campus rink, but you know what, the school has embraced the JAR for its lack of comfort. It's something of a Veterans Stadium approach down in Philly. When they do replace it, people will clamor to pull the trigger. But the dump of the JAR is what makes Bentley hockey what it is. This is a school that has one head coach, one assistant, and a second assistant who's a strength coach. When Ben Murphy's on the road, Ryan Soderquist had to get to the school to get laundry done last year and make sure equipment got from point A to point B. The facilities are less than spectacular. It's not BC. It's never going to be. And they get that.

But Bentley's buildling. You can't possibly ask the Athletic Director to all of a sudden sink every resource he has into making D1 hockey his primary focus. Bobby Defelice has done a great job in getting behind the program recently. Yes, it comes at a time after the Dana Center was made as gorgeous as it was, after the football stadium got field turf, and during a time when the school is in the middle of a rebranding that is being derided by its student base. But the rebrand, the investment into hockey with the buses, the administration going to games, it's all about getting this team built up. It's happening. Five years ago, this program teetered on nonexistence, and now there's not a doubt it will exist at this school. It's hard to see sometimes, but it's there.

I'll ask this question - if you don't think the administration or coaching staff is doing its job, then please outline the changes you would make. I'm interested to hear what you have (genuinely interested; I truly hope that didn't come across stubborn and in your face).
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

I can see your argument, and I think there are valid points and concerns. You're more than welcome to your personal opinion, but I'll counter with a couple of statistics for you based on my time here (roughly 5 years). Snively - I know you and Humanoid both have been associated longer. So for older material, I'll defer to that. So I'll go down the list of things here and address them one by one to give an honest and educated response based on my experience and information I've gathered over the course of my tenure and association with the team.

1) Attendance/Backing of the administration: Five years ago, if the team drew a legitimate 150 people to the JAR, it was a lot of people. It's something I've written about at length on the website. The school has made a marked investment in the team to provide shuttle buses for the students to and from campus from and to the rink. This never existed before two years ago. The school has also made investments in terms of incentives for giveaways to make sure they're inundating the students with gratuitous merch. There have been Bentley hockey t-shirt giveaways before, but now they're doing Bentley Falcon trash cans and God knows what else. The crowd might be dead on some nights, but Bentley is now packing stands like they didn't before. Is it the ideal being off campus? Absolutely not. Far from it. But the team is drawing close to 800-1,000 during each game, including nights when the senior class has a bus going into Boston. They've developed associations with a fraternity, and they've developed a core group of supporters that didn't exist until the last two seasons. The ability to get the students to the game is a direct link to the school sinking money into the program.

2) Recruiting: The coaching staff, meanwhile, has, in the past four years, built the program back from a gutted state, which has been mentioned. What I don't think you understand about the recruiting process is that a player is, for lack of a better term, tied to a coach. When the coaching staff has turnover, which Bentley has had in the last five years - it has not, like you say, remained status quo, with needing to replace Mark White with Ben Murphy - recruiting inevitably takes a dive. At other programs like a Boston College or even at an Air Force or even still at a Brown or Harvard, assistant coach turnover doesn't matter as much because of the school's hockey brand. College athletes come to Bentley to play for this coaching staff, and that's a reputation the staff has had to build among pipeline recruiting areas and teams. Ryan Soderquist has a reputation among those leagues, but you have to remember the bulk of recruiting is done by assistant coaching. When Mark White left, Ben Murphy became the primary source of recruiting. He's on the road while the team is playing. And that means the recruiting had to change. For Coach Murphy, this is his first Division I job. He gets this job at a school where there is only one assistant coach's slot, not including the strength coach Charlie Carkin. Most colleges have recruiting coordinators and multiple assistant coaches. Brown, where Mark White is now the associate head coach, now utilizes three assistants, including their (off the roster) goaltending consultant.

3) The team's ability to get votes in a poll: Look, Rome wasn't built in a day; you'll be hard-pressed to find any AHA teams that consistently achieve votes in the national poll. And even then, it never goes on conference record, it only goes on overall record. Bentley is still a few steps behind the Harvards or Dartmouths of the world; okay, well they have 50 years of hockey tradition and a name recognition. Their academics are stronger than Bentley on their school name (the Ivy League >>>> everyone). And, in Harvard's case, they have a national reputation that usually gets them the Notre Dame Football syndrome. AHA isn't Hockey East; it's going to have to fight that much harder to get votes. If a team had Niagara's start to the year, including the five shutouts, and they played in the ECAC, they'd be a top 10 team. Instead, NU is ranked, what, like 16th. And the first loss drops them out of the poll. That's a stigma the league has fought in recent years, but it'll always have it thanks to the lack of SOS. That's something that outweighs Bentley. I'd rather extend the statement to say that Bentley has built and gotten better because some of the bigger names around New England are willing to gamble and play them. If Harvard or Dartmouth loses to Bentley, that's a disaster on the local radar. The fact that they're willing to play them with such a limited number of OOCs illustrates the Falcons arrival on the local scene.

4) The current establishment: Bentley has done more in the last 3 years to get this program support than it has most others. Okay, they don't have an on-campus rink, but you know what, the school has embraced the JAR for its lack of comfort. It's something of a Veterans Stadium approach down in Philly. When they do replace it, people will clamor to pull the trigger. But the dump of the JAR is what makes Bentley hockey what it is. This is a school that has one head coach, one assistant, and a second assistant who's a strength coach. When Ben Murphy's on the road, Ryan Soderquist had to get to the school to get laundry done last year and make sure equipment got from point A to point B. The facilities are less than spectacular. It's not BC. It's never going to be. And they get that.

But Bentley's buildling. You can't possibly ask the Athletic Director to all of a sudden sink every resource he has into making D1 hockey his primary focus. Bobby Defelice has done a great job in getting behind the program recently. Yes, it comes at a time after the Dana Center was made as gorgeous as it was, after the football stadium got field turf, and during a time when the school is in the middle of a rebranding that is being derided by its student base. But the rebrand, the investment into hockey with the buses, the administration going to games, it's all about getting this team built up. It's happening. Five years ago, this program teetered on nonexistence, and now there's not a doubt it will exist at this school. It's hard to see sometimes, but it's there.

I'll ask this question - if you don't think the administration or coaching staff is doing its job, then please outline the changes you would make. I'm interested to hear what you have (genuinely interested; I truly hope that didn't come across stubborn and in your face).

I'm going to respond to a couple of differnet things on this:

1) Attendance - the attendance had more to do with the team reaching out than it did the administration. I think the fan base would have dissipated if not for the team's commitment to being a beacon in the community. The whole thing with Mike Eden, becoming friends with the fans, and the overall disposition of the team meant more than the fan buses. The podcast you did last year even said so when you interviewed fans who WALKED to the JAR.

2) Recruiting: I think this is speaking more towards Mark White's inability to recruit than it does anything else. White's recruiting is something that I'll call into question if only because I read the Brown board and they're down to apparently five healthy defensemen. One of their D-men just quit. Two of them were injured. And they never brought in a goalie that was standard. Even White's recruits at Bentley were eh rather than good, since he was responsible for bringing in guys who weren't great character guys like the Murphy classes. I don't know how much of that is actually Soderquist.

3) If you're good enough, you'll win enough. Bentley, at some point, has to seize the moment. Maybe that's not this year, and I don't think it is. I lay that on the coaching staff with the confidence in them that the team will start winning those games in the coming years. You're absolutely right when you say Rome wasn't built in a day. Last year, they tied Clarkson. This year, they hung with Dartmouth and Michigan before ultimately losing (last year was the same with Michigan). This year, they'll have a chance to beat both Northeastern and UMass-Lowell, Hockey East programs. If they don't come away with a win against someone, then I'll be personally disappointed. If they don't do it in the next couple of years, especially where there will be more opportunity to play HEA teams with the lower amount of conference games, then it's a different story. Right now, I'm okay with it. In a couple of years, I won't be.

4) You left out Dean Sherpardson. Before he really came on board, hockey didn't have a huge proponent in the departments, and I'm convinced hockey would limp along if not for the Dean. He's really gotten the administration more on board. Mr. Loftus has done an admirable job as the liason from the athletic department. Bobby D. isn't the contact, IMHO
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

*Edit- women's soccer team was 0-15-2 in 2010, not 0-16

I can see your argument, and I think there are valid points and concerns. You're more than welcome to your personal opinion, but I'll counter with a couple of statistics for you based on my time here (roughly 5 years). Snively - I know you and Humanoid both have been associated longer. So for older material, I'll defer to that. So I'll go down the list of things here and address them one by one to give an honest and educated response based on my experience and information I've gathered over the course of my tenure and association with the team.

...

I'll ask this question - if you don't think the administration or coaching staff is doing its job, then please outline the changes you would make. I'm interested to hear what you have (genuinely interested; I truly hope that didn't come across stubborn and in your face).

I''l try to address a few things then move on to my changes...

1) I understand the academic department is more behind the team now than it has been in the past. This trend NEEDS to continue. That said, I know Frank Serretore (AF) consistently complains about the atmosphere out at Bentley and similar schools (SHU, AIC). This seems trivial but I think this sort of thing is dangerous. The Serretore family is well respected in the hockey community and while a nut job, the guy knows his stuff. The academic department doesn't understand that hosting 0 out of conf games does not look good for a program. Overall on this point though, I agree, given the little bit that Bentley offers it's athletics, they've treated the hockey program much better in recent years.

2) I understand that you expect some lag time when switching assistants. However, you are putting way too much stock in playing for one coaching staff or another. Kids that come to Bentley come to play. Period. Some may like they can get a good education while there, some may like the area etc. The biggest factors are playing time, program history (wins/ losses/ titles), fitting in, academics. And given the lack of options for good players out of juniors that want to play in college (there's what 58 programs), schools like Bentley are going to have good years. The key is to look for consistency though. On a team that turns over every year, there's only one constant- the coach.

3) I'm not saying Bentley should be getting consistent votes or even be ranked. I'm noting they have never received A vote. To me, that's an issue. Look at the current poll- HC and RMU both have votes.

4) I agree with most of this. Again though, while shuttle buses and extra intermission handouts are good given Bentley's history, you need to compare this overall to other schools. The ugliest part of the situation is not having an on-campus (this should just say decent) rink.

My Changes (in order by number)

3. Boot Defelice and most of the athletic department. They've fostered not only a bad hockey environment but have allowed various teams/ coaches multiple [bad] losing seasons. The women's soccer team was completely defeated two years ago (0-16, not sure what the term is for this other than winless). There was a group of girls, from what I heard of the situation, at least half the team that put together a presentation for Defelice on pursuing a new coach. Defelice's reaction- got those girls a sports psychologist to deal with their problem. This is just one example and I understand Bentley isn't going to pursue their athletic program like Boston College. I've heard similar rumblings from other programs as well, though not to that extent. For a school so draped over itself in its business school, you would think they could recognize that a solid athletics department is like free (not really) marketing without the costly consultants. As the AD, Defelice is the responsible party. Unfortunately with that sort of position should come the risk of losing your job should the programs not perform. This of course will not happen as it is something that is ingrained in Bentley's leaders. They simply do not value a strong athletics program and appear content with mediocrity.

4. Thank Soderquist for his time and show him the door. There are plenty of promising coaches in the ranks across the country that would love to make a jump to division one and try taking the program to a new level. Soderquist has tallied an average of just over 12 wins a season in his time at Bentley. They play 35 + games a year. If I'm the AD, that doesn't cut it- even if I have to personally go search for a coach the next year. Like I've said before, he may have gotten the program on good footing and as a supporter, I appreciate that but he's not taking Bentley hockey anywhere fast. His hockey background lacks and I question his leadership. He turns d-men into forwards and vice versa and back again. It's sad to watch players (Olsen, Quartuccio, Kayfes, Fitstephens) try to make this switch at a high level and understandably fail. As noted before, the team leaders are a direct representation of the coach and the environment he creates/ allows. If he allows cheap play at practice, it will come out in the games (i.e. Preece, Kayfes). Unfortunately bad things tend to show at the worst times of the year. Bentley has made the final four of AHA twice? Yet has lost to teams below them in playoffs how many times? I have more to say but this is getting long.

5. Bring in a hockey specific trainer. I've heard over the years rumblings about guys getting burned out. That's a major issue.

1. Get some helmet stickers for God's sakes. I think every division 3 team can say they have that.

2. Tell the professors and board members their pay will be cut to finance a rink in the future if they don't approve one now. This is a bigger deal than the school thinks. Bentley will never be respected in college hockey as a whole playing out of the JAR.

That's it
 
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Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

*Edit- women's soccer team was 0-15-2 in 2010, not 0-16



I''l try to address a few things then move on to my changes...

1) I understand the academic department is more behind the team now than it has been in the past. This trend NEEDS to continue. That said, I know Frank Serretore (AF) consistently complains about the atmosphere out at Bentley and similar schools (SHU, AIC). This seems trivial but I think this sort of thing is dangerous. The Serretore family is well respected in the hockey community and while a nut job, the guy knows his stuff. The academic department doesn't understand that hosting 0 out of conf games does not look good for a program. Overall on this point though, I agree, given the little bit that Bentley offers it's athletics, they've treated the hockey program much better in recent years.

2) I understand that you expect some lag time when switching assistants. However, you are putting way too much stock in playing for one coaching staff or another. Kids that come to Bentley come to play. Period. Some may like they can get a good education while there, some may like the area etc. The biggest factors are playing time, program history (wins/ losses/ titles), fitting in, academics. And given the lack of options for good players out of juniors that want to play in college (there's what 58 programs), schools like Bentley are going to have good years. The key is to look for consistency though. On a team that turns over every year, there's only one constant- the coach.

3) I'm not saying Bentley should be getting consistent votes or even be ranked. I'm noting they have never received A vote. To me, that's an issue. Look at the current poll- HC and RMU both have votes.

4) I agree with most of this. Again though, while shuttle buses and extra intermission handouts are good given Bentley's history, you need to compare this overall to other schools. The ugliest part of the situation is not having an on-campus (this should just say decent) rink.

My Changes (in order by number)

3. Boot Defelice and most of the athletic department. They've fostered not only a bad hockey environment but have allowed various teams/ coaches multiple [bad] losing seasons. The women's soccer team was completely defeated two years ago (0-16, not sure what the term is for this other than winless). There was a group of girls, from what I heard of the situation, at least half the team that put together a presentation for Defelice on pursuing a new coach. Defelice's reaction- got those girls a sports psychologist to deal with their problem. This is just one example and I understand Bentley isn't going to pursue their athletic program like Boston College. I've heard similar rumblings from other programs as well, though not to that extent. For a school so draped over itself in its business school, you would think they could recognize that a solid athletics department is like free (not really) marketing without the costly consultants. As the AD, Defelice is the responsible party. Unfortunately with that sort of position should come the risk of losing your job should the programs not perform. This of course will not happen as it is something that is ingrained in Bentley's leaders. They simply do not value a strong athletics program and appear content with mediocrity.

4. Thank Soderquist for his time and show him the door. There are plenty of promising coaches in the ranks across the country that would love to make a jump to division one and try taking the program to a new level. Soderquist has tallied an average of just over 12 wins a season in his time at Bentley. They play 35 + games a year. If I'm the AD, that doesn't cut it- even if I have to personally go search for a coach the next year. Like I've said before, he may have gotten the program on good footing and as a supporter, I appreciate that but he's not taking Bentley hockey anywhere fast. His hockey background lacks and I question his leadership. He turns d-men into forwards and vice versa and back again. It's sad to watch players (Olsen, Quartuccio, Kayfes, Fitstephens) try to make this switch at a high level and understandably fail. As noted before, the team leaders are a direct representation of the coach and the environment he creates/ allows. If he allows cheap play at practice, it will come out in the games (i.e. Preece, Kayfes). Unfortunately bad things tend to show at the worst times of the year. Bentley has made the final four of AHA twice? Yet has lost to teams below them in playoffs how many times? I have more to say but this is getting long.

5. Bring in a hockey specific trainer. I've heard over the years rumblings about guys getting burned out. That's a major issue.

1. Get some helmet stickers for God's sakes. I think every division 3 team can say they have that.

2. Tell the professors and board members their pay will be cut to finance a rink in the future if they don't approve one now. This is a bigger deal than the school thinks. Bentley will never be respected in college hockey as a whole playing out of the JAR.

That's it

Rebuttals (and I'm really glad we're getting this discussion going):

3) You can't boot Defelice. The guy's been there almost 40 years. Whether you want it to happen or not, it's not going to happen.

4) Who do you recommend to bring in for Soderquist? In the ever-changing world of college sports, you have to remember that you have to have a candidate in mind if you're going to boot him. Not only that but what is it about your candidate that makes him a better choice than Soderquist. Also remember that your choice would have to fit the Bentley mindset, which if what you're saying is true, a) isn't very highly touted and b) isn't going to change.

5) You mention hockey specific training. Not many schools have this. This is an invalid argument.

6) Helmet stickers - ok I'll bite. I like them.

7). You can't do this to professors. You can't take away money from them in order to build a rink on campus. That's a) illegal and b) would bring legal action against the college so fast, it would make your head spin. You can't cut pay in order to divert money to the athletics department. It becomes a misappropriation of funds at that point. Athletics are a luxury, not a right. and to invest in hockey by cutting pay is just a disaster. You claim it's a bigger deal, and we've talked about it going on 3 years on these boards (if you can find the older boards, it's discussed on there, and the on-campus rink idea is something that's been up and down on the school's dime for the last 2 years). But you absolutely CANNOT do this. It's impossible. Not every faculty member supports the athletics to begin with, and you CANNOT divert funds from salaried employees into athletics. Of all your points, this is the only one I'll point to and say ABSOLUTELY NOT. Not gonna happen. I won't even entertain a discussion about this after the fact. not to be a jerk, but that's the way it goes.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

Rebuttals (and I'm really glad we're getting this discussion going):

3) You can't boot Defelice. The guy's been there almost 40 years. Whether you want it to happen or not, it's not going to happen.

4) Who do you recommend to bring in for Soderquist? In the ever-changing world of college sports, you have to remember that you have to have a candidate in mind if you're going to boot him. Not only that but what is it about your candidate that makes him a better choice than Soderquist. Also remember that your choice would have to fit the Bentley mindset, which if what you're saying is true, a) isn't very highly touted and b) isn't going to change.

5) You mention hockey specific training. Not many schools have this. This is an invalid argument.

6) Helmet stickers - ok I'll bite. I like them.

7). You can't do this to professors. You can't take away money from them in order to build a rink on campus. That's a) illegal and b) would bring legal action against the college so fast, it would make your head spin. You can't cut pay in order to divert money to the athletics department. It becomes a misappropriation of funds at that point. Athletics are a luxury, not a right. and to invest in hockey by cutting pay is just a disaster. You claim it's a bigger deal, and we've talked about it going on 3 years on these boards (if you can find the older boards, it's discussed on there, and the on-campus rink idea is something that's been up and down on the school's dime for the last 2 years). But you absolutely CANNOT do this. It's impossible. Not every faculty member supports the athletics to begin with, and you CANNOT divert funds from salaried employees into athletics. Of all your points, this is the only one I'll point to and say ABSOLUTELY NOT. Not gonna happen. I won't even entertain a discussion about this after the fact. not to be a jerk, but that's the way it goes.

First, I should have mentioned initially- these are not things I see happening, just things I would like to happen. I'm aware most of my list is inconceivable at this point. That goes for the argument about booting Defelice and Soderquist as well as the comment about professors and board members. Not realistic I know. Helmet stickers, good to go.

Hockey training- I do have an issue with this. The guys' pre and post season training regiment is ridiculous. The amount they run alone is more than most soccer teams. I speculate that there are a handful that are burned out by the end of the year. Put yourself in their shoes- say they have an average season and are on the road in the second round of playoffs. Sitting there at intermission down by 2 going into the 3rd, half the team is thinking about how bad spring training is going to be instead of focusing on the game. It happens. Cutting down and having more specific training goes along the lines of working smarter, not harder. That doesn't mean you have a less hard-working team. It just cuts out all the unnecessary stuff the guys go through. They have enough on their plate with school and other activities going on. Charlie's a good guy but he trains atleast half the athletes at Bentley. Again, this suggestion for bringing a trainer in or having Charlie create more custom workouts requires more resources- which I don't see coming from the athletic department or school. So, not realistic for Bentley but it's an important point.

As far as a recommendation for Soderquist, I don't have a specific person in mind. What I'm suggesting though is for Bentley to take a look around. There are plenty high level coaches that are still coaching midgets or junior programs around the country. These guys have played plenty of pro hockey and have the experience that these college players need. Soderquist brings very little to the table in terms of developing division one level players. Recall, he himself only played 2 years at that level (and the competition he was up against at the time of the switch was not even close to what the guys play against now). I'm of the belief that 99% of the time, a good coach needs to have atleast exceeded the level at which he is currently coaching. I think Bentley should carefully track top level AAA midget programs, the USHL, prep schools, and division 3 schools to find someone that has played professionally and has developed a winning record over time. These guys are out there and I guarantee if Bentley gave even a decent offer, most would take it. It's the chance of a lifetime for them to take their winning strategy to the next level with relatively little downside given Bentley's current situation.

Just a side note and something to consider as far as the coaching staff goes. Murphy appears to be bringing in some good talent so far, but who's coaching the d men? Soderquist was a forward. Murphy was a forward. Charlie is an athletic trainer. Division one hockey is a high level but these guys still need to develop. Just as I argue the forwards aren't developing much under Soderquist, I know the d aren't developing. Playing in games is only half the equation. These guys need someone in practice and on the bench that knows the game from the backside. They simply are not getting that.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

FYI for everyone - we will have audio broadcasts of the UMass Lowell games and Northeastern games on the website.
 
First, I should have mentioned initially- these are not things I see happening, just things I would like to happen. I'm aware most of my list is inconceivable at this point. That goes for the argument about booting Defelice and Soderquist as well as the comment about professors and board members. Not realistic I know. Helmet stickers, good to go.

Hockey training- I do have an issue with this. The guys' pre and post season training regiment is ridiculous. The amount they run alone is more than most soccer teams. I speculate that there are a handful that are burned out by the end of the year. Put yourself in their shoes- say they have an average season and are on the road in the second round of playoffs. Sitting there at intermission down by 2 going into the 3rd, half the team is thinking about how bad spring training is going to be instead of focusing on the game. It happens. Cutting down and having more specific training goes along the lines of working smarter, not harder. That doesn't mean you have a less hard-working team. It just cuts out all the unnecessary stuff the guys go through. They have enough on their plate with school and other activities going on. Charlie's a good guy but he trains atleast half the athletes at Bentley. Again, this suggestion for bringing a trainer in or having Charlie create more custom workouts requires more resources- which I don't see coming from the athletic department or school. So, not realistic for Bentley but it's an important point.

As far as a recommendation for Soderquist, I don't have a specific person in mind. What I'm suggesting though is for Bentley to take a look around. There are plenty high level coaches that are still coaching midgets or junior programs around the country. These guys have played plenty of pro hockey and have the experience that these college players need. Soderquist brings very little to the table in terms of developing division one level players. Recall, he himself only played 2 years at that level (and the competition he was up against at the time of the switch was not even close to what the guys play against now). I'm of the belief that 99% of the time, a good coach needs to have atleast exceeded the level at which he is currently coaching. I think Bentley should carefully track top level AAA midget programs, the USHL, prep schools, and division 3 schools to find someone that has played professionally and has developed a winning record over time. These guys are out there and I guarantee if Bentley gave even a decent offer, most would take it. It's the chance of a lifetime for them to take their winning strategy to the next level with relatively little downside given Bentley's current situation.

Just a side note and something to consider as far as the coaching staff goes. Murphy appears to be bringing in some good talent so far, but who's coaching the d men? Soderquist was a forward. Murphy was a forward. Charlie is an athletic trainer. Division one hockey is a high level but these guys still need to develop. Just as I argue the forwards aren't developing much under Soderquist, I know the d aren't developing. Playing in games is only half the equation. These guys need someone in practice and on the bench that knows the game from the backside. They simply are not getting that.

Murphy is coaching the D-men and doing just fine; it does not matter that he was a forward on some very good UMaine teams. The recruiting is getting better every year. Bentley lost three superb D-men to graduation to begin this season, so is skating three frosh back there, so it will take some time for them to gel. As you acknowledge, Delifice and Soderquist are not going anywhere, but the reason is that they are doing just fine.

There is very little support for a rink on campus, other than from a couple Board members, a couple of weirdo faculty members, a few students, and the team, of course, so a rink on campus was simply not going to happen after President Morone left; Morone was absolutely crazy about all Bentley sports, and especially hockey. Very few AHA teams attract OOC home games, and a rink on campus would make no difference. The JAR is 2.7 miles from campus and Bentley now provides free shuttle service, which is great.

Students have embraced this team, which is amazing given that for the most part they are not very knowledgeable about hockey, other than those in the Falcon Nest. But, they will learn; it just takes time. There was a kid in the Falcon Nest trying to play the trumpet at the last game I attended, which was fantastic.

Gensler and Weinstein are the two finest forwards and D-men that I have seen at Bentley since Soderquist and Steve Tobio. As Humanoid notes, next season will be when Bentley makes some serious noise in the AHA, as Bentley will not be losing much to graduation this year other than role players. These guys have been doing a fine job on the third and fourth lines this year, but they are not goal scorers. Next season Bentley will still have a fine goalie, more seasoned D-men, and scoring threats from all four lines. I am not writing off this season, but I am just being realistic.

If this year's team overachieves in the second half and post-season, of course I will be delighted. Hoping for an upset at Tsongas next weekend, which is not beyond the realm of possibility.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

"Murphy is coaching the D-men and doing just fine; it does not matter that he was a forward..."

At high levels, yes, this does matter. It may not be as noticeable in AHA games, but it will show in ooc.

"Delifice and Soderquist are not going anywhere, but the reason is that they are doing just fine."

Soderquist has overseen a career averaging 12 wins a season. He is doing just fine. But in the long run, expecting the team to be anything greater than mediocre with those two at the helm is pretty ambitous.
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

Looking at the UML rivalry is always interesting when you think that the River Hawks are a founding member of hockey east (for all intents and purposes. 1984 isn't 2012). It's pretty amazing to think that they've grown from a Division II demi-power with 3 national titles into a serious contender at Division I. They've done a great job building, and they're an NE-10 program. Looking forward to seeing them on Sunday... weather permitting. Any idea if it's supposed to rain vs. snow?

http://excalibursportspage.com/2012/12/26/ne-10-rivalry-renewed/
 
Pretty funny, Dan. I am not sure whether the NWS even can predict the rain - snow line for the system moving in tonight. Have fun at Tsongas on Sunday; I will follow Bentley game from Thompson Rink on my new iPhone5.

So you're saying Santa was good to you? :D
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

I thought Connor Hellebuyck was supposed to be on the WJC roster?
 
Re: Bentley Hockey 2012-2013: The New Era of JAR Pride Begins

Hockey East reporters seem to not think so highly of Bentley

http://www.uscho.com/hockey-east-blog/2012/12/28/hockey-east-picks-nov-30-dec-6/

They'd be well suited to actually check into the OOC games for the Falcons. Bentley had leads over BOTH Michigan and Dartmouth and lost in the 3rd period. If Bentley can play 60 minutes, they can beat any team, especially a mid-tier Hockey East team.

I still think it ends 4-2 for UML but I don't think it's going to be a cakewalk by any means.
 
Hockey East reporters seem to not think so highly of Bentley

http://www.uscho.com/hockey-east-blog/2012/12/28/hockey-east-picks-nov-30-dec-6/

They'd be well suited to actually check into the OOC games for the Falcons. Bentley had leads over BOTH Michigan and Dartmouth and lost in the 3rd period. If Bentley can play 60 minutes, they can beat any team, especially a mid-tier Hockey East team.

I still think it ends 4-2 for UML but I don't think it's going to be a cakewalk by any means.

I agree. The only game that Bentley was never in this season was their 5-0 loss at Hahvud.
 
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