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Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
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Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
I guess the only other thing they could do is just not allow in-season tournament games to count in the PWR (make it an exhibition game essentially). I'm not advocating that, BTW, but what else can they do? I'm not sure why the OT after the initial five minutes matters in the sense of "they want to keep it fair for everyone" sense. What's the difference? One team wins, one team loses. Why does the methodology matter? It's not "unequal" because the teams are playing each other in that ONE scenario...they're not playing the other teams in Division 1. Nobody's getting an "advantage" over everyone else.
But my question is, if you're not going to allow the game to count, does that mean the four teams can add two more games to their schedules?
EDIT: And I agree with JD. PLEASE....NO shootout!!!!!!
I guess the only other thing they could do is just not allow in-season tournament games to count in the PWR (make it an exhibition game essentially). I'm not advocating that, BTW, but what else can they do? I'm not sure why the OT after the initial five minutes matters in the sense of "they want to keep it fair for everyone" sense. What's the difference? One team wins, one team loses. Why does the methodology matter? It's not "unequal" because the teams are playing each other in that ONE scenario...they're not playing the other teams in Division 1. Nobody's getting an "advantage" over everyone else.
But my question is, if you're not going to allow the game to count, does that mean the four teams can add two more games to their schedules?
EDIT: And I agree with JD. PLEASE....NO shootout!!!!!!
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
I do hate that the game is recorded in box scores as 4-4 and that announcers are calling the 20 minute OT the 2nd overtime.
Why even bother with separate OTs? Have a regular intermission after the 3rd, put 20 minutes on the clock and if the OT goes past 5 minutes it goes in the books as a tie but you obviously keep playing.
I do hate that the game is recorded in box scores as 4-4 and that announcers are calling the 20 minute OT the 2nd overtime.
Why even bother with separate OTs? Have a regular intermission after the 3rd, put 20 minutes on the clock and if the OT goes past 5 minutes it goes in the books as a tie but you obviously keep playing.
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
I think it's less the SB factor and more that most people can't commit to going to two 7-hour events on back-to-back Monday nights, and would rather see a championship game than a semifinal. I personally enjoy the first day of the Beanpot more, since you get to see all four teams play meaningful games, but I can see why a more casual fan might not care as much. Another thing that likely hurt attendance this year in particular: NU played the early game. Last night, their student section spread from 308 all the way down into where the BC students usually sit, finally trailing off in section 321. That's 12.5 sections (an entire sideline!) made up entirely of NU students. If they'd had the night game last Monday, they probably wouldn't have gotten as many kids to turn out, but it would've been better than the still-impressive turnout they had at 5 pm.
The Beanpot almost needs NU to make it to the final now against one of BC or BU to guarantee a good crowd (though of course BU-BC in the final should still draw well). The BU-Harvard final in 2017 was very, very light compared to the past three seasons.
I think it's less the SB factor and more that most people can't commit to going to two 7-hour events on back-to-back Monday nights, and would rather see a championship game than a semifinal. I personally enjoy the first day of the Beanpot more, since you get to see all four teams play meaningful games, but I can see why a more casual fan might not care as much. Another thing that likely hurt attendance this year in particular: NU played the early game. Last night, their student section spread from 308 all the way down into where the BC students usually sit, finally trailing off in section 321. That's 12.5 sections (an entire sideline!) made up entirely of NU students. If they'd had the night game last Monday, they probably wouldn't have gotten as many kids to turn out, but it would've been better than the still-impressive turnout they had at 5 pm.
The Beanpot almost needs NU to make it to the final now against one of BC or BU to guarantee a good crowd (though of course BU-BC in the final should still draw well). The BU-Harvard final in 2017 was very, very light compared to the past three seasons.
walrus655321
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Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
I would have been more "OK" with holding as it seems like the hand came off the stick to grab the NU player but we all know he was basically in the process of falling long before Harper got near him. That would have been a bit more understandable as you see a hand come off the stick to grab and instinctively make the holding call.
That being said, to see the sour apples last night and this morning ... really really tremendous and entertaining. Albie talked about "diving" in the postgame presser too apparently. They really are leaving no stone unturned here.
I would have been more "OK" with holding as it seems like the hand came off the stick to grab the NU player but we all know he was basically in the process of falling long before Harper got near him. That would have been a bit more understandable as you see a hand come off the stick to grab and instinctively make the holding call.
That being said, to see the sour apples last night and this morning ... really really tremendous and entertaining. Albie talked about "diving" in the postgame presser too apparently. They really are leaving no stone unturned here.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
J.D., chickod, I guess you didn't read my previous post regarding Beanpot attendance in relation to the Superbowl. I have also updated it with most of the ticket prices since 1988 (which I also posted in this thread):
Sean
Accusing the other team of diving. Hmm wonder where he learned that...
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
Sean
My attendance numbers come directly from the official score sheets created at the time and the 1996 championship game is recorded as having 18,025. Sometime since then that number, along with several others, were changed to the official capacity.
Sean
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
Congrats to NU. Played for the whole game while BU decided to take the 2nd period off for some reason. A few thoughts:
1) Anybody with eligibility left who can skate faster than a toddler please come down to Agganis and inquire about playing defense for the team. It would also help if your weight is greater than 160 pounds.
2) Throwing in the towel on Albie. Clueless fatass. NU ran the same play for their 2nd period goals - cycle down low and then someone curls into the middle of the ice between the faceoffs dots and shoots high. A competent coach after the 2nd goal recognizes this. An incompetent one lets 4 goals go by.
3) Last call was terrible but BU took way too many legit penalties that game. A sign of an undisciplined team, which is once again a reflection of the coach.
4) Good to see all of the excitement over the game regardless of the outcome. Felt like old times (except the part about NU winning 3 times in a row!
).
Congrats to NU. Played for the whole game while BU decided to take the 2nd period off for some reason. A few thoughts:
1) Anybody with eligibility left who can skate faster than a toddler please come down to Agganis and inquire about playing defense for the team. It would also help if your weight is greater than 160 pounds.
2) Throwing in the towel on Albie. Clueless fatass. NU ran the same play for their 2nd period goals - cycle down low and then someone curls into the middle of the ice between the faceoffs dots and shoots high. A competent coach after the 2nd goal recognizes this. An incompetent one lets 4 goals go by.
3) Last call was terrible but BU took way too many legit penalties that game. A sign of an undisciplined team, which is once again a reflection of the coach.
4) Good to see all of the excitement over the game regardless of the outcome. Felt like old times (except the part about NU winning 3 times in a row!
).
Split-N
All Hail
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
I can tell the pro-shootout crowd what to do with their precious shootouts but this is a family-friendly board.
I can tell the pro-shootout crowd what to do with their precious shootouts but this is a family-friendly board.
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
The reason for the cross check to face was because NU slashed the goalie...I am a fan of letting them play. Call the absolute blatant stuff and let the boys determine the winner. The trip was 200 feet away from the teams net - you dont call that in OT nor do you call the trip that ended up deciding the game. That call tainted a fantastic game IMO. BU came out flying, NU then returned fire, BU then came back and was outplaying NU pretty badly in the 3rd and OT. Almost a 20-0 shot advantage late in the game. Stinks that a call like that taints such a great game.
The reason for the cross check to face was because NU slashed the goalie...I am a fan of letting them play. Call the absolute blatant stuff and let the boys determine the winner. The trip was 200 feet away from the teams net - you dont call that in OT nor do you call the trip that ended up deciding the game. That call tainted a fantastic game IMO. BU came out flying, NU then returned fire, BU then came back and was outplaying NU pretty badly in the 3rd and OT. Almost a 20-0 shot advantage late in the game. Stinks that a call like that taints such a great game.
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
NU played the whole game? They didnt show up for the 1st and 3rd periods nor overtime. Down 2-0 quick and then outshot 20-0 from 3rd period to OT. Thats not playing entire game. BU was better in 1st and 3rd and OT, NU was better for 2nd.
Congrats to NU. Played for the whole game while BU decided to take the 2nd period off for some reason. A few thoughts:
1) Anybody with eligibility left who can skate faster than a toddler please come down to Agganis and inquire about playing defense for the team. It would also help if your weight is greater than 160 pounds.
2) Throwing in the towel on Albie. Clueless fatass. NU ran the same play for their 2nd period goals - cycle down low and then someone curls into the middle of the ice between the faceoffs dots and shoots high. A competent coach after the 2nd goal recognizes this. An incompetent one lets 4 goals go by.
3) Last call was terrible but BU took way too many legit penalties that game. A sign of an undisciplined team, which is once again a reflection of the coach.
4) Good to see all of the excitement over the game regardless of the outcome. Felt like old times (except the part about NU winning 3 times in a row!
NU played the whole game? They didnt show up for the 1st and 3rd periods nor overtime. Down 2-0 quick and then outshot 20-0 from 3rd period to OT. Thats not playing entire game. BU was better in 1st and 3rd and OT, NU was better for 2nd.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
As for why the final reached the new capacity this year, I think both NU fans believing they would see a historic three-peat and BU fans hoping for the team's first win since 2015 increased interest. For the first time in many years the BU section I was in (Loge 2) was mostly filled with BU fans and not casual fans or fans of the other schools.
Sean
Well, I agree with kdiff77 that for the casual fan the championship game is more important than the semifinals. Furthermore, you only need to be there for one game, not two, and it usually starts between 7:30 and 8:00. Compare that to the semifinals where the first game starts at 5:00 and the second game usually starts after 8:30. Ticket prices have also played a part: the first time the semifinals were below capacity was when the price hit $40 and the semifinals have only reached capacity once since then. The championship game fell below capacity a few years later when ticket prices hit $42, so I think that the Garden has reached the upper price limit that many fans are willing to pay. However, the Garden did lower parking prices: $20 for the semifinals and $35 for the championship game.
As for why the final reached the new capacity this year, I think both NU fans believing they would see a historic three-peat and BU fans hoping for the team's first win since 2015 increased interest. For the first time in many years the BU section I was in (Loge 2) was mostly filled with BU fans and not casual fans or fans of the other schools.
Sean
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theprofromdover
The Original Dope Detector
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
Sean, I appreciate the your effort to answer all of the questions that come your way. One question: are you retired?
Sean, I appreciate the your effort to answer all of the questions that come your way. One question: are you retired?
So, in other words, they need to drop ticket prices by fifteen dollars or else comp everyone two beers.
northeastern
Registered User
So, in other words, they need to drop ticket prices by fifteen dollars or else comp everyone two beers.
ha! this guy gets it.
edit: $15 might be 1 beer at Gahden prices but point taken.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: Beanpot LXVIII: Threepeat?
Sean
Thanks, I try to offer information, especially if I already have available, or if I can look it up (either online or in my archives). And no, I'm not retired - that's years away.
Sean