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Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Fixed your link. A little surprising that they haven't played any women's hockey at the club level (even at ACHA D2) and are making the jump right to NCAA D3. I see that for the men they've had NCAA D3 and a ACHA D3 team and will be adding an ACHA D2 team (for three men's hockey teams total).
Meanwhile at the women's ACHA D1 level I see that Miami University just won the national tournament for the second time in the past three years, so you wonder if they might be thinking about going NCAA D3 also?
Fixed your link. A little surprising that they haven't played any women's hockey at the club level (even at ACHA D2) and are making the jump right to NCAA D3. I see that for the men they've had NCAA D3 and a ACHA D3 team and will be adding an ACHA D2 team (for three men's hockey teams total).
Meanwhile at the women's ACHA D1 level I see that Miami University just won the national tournament for the second time in the past three years, so you wonder if they might be thinking about going NCAA D3 also?
HockeyEast33
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Seems to be ongoing confusion amongst some posters about D1 vs D3. Schools are now D1, D2, or D3 in all sports - no option to pick your division in 1 sport vs another. There are very few grandfathered exceptions. Miami is a D1 school - they can't play down.
Hammer
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
I figured that all went away.
Even so, even if they could, given the rest of their athletic department, I would bet a beer that Miami would have less than zero interest in playing Division III, given their facility.
I figured that all went away.
Even so, even if they could, given the rest of their athletic department, I would bet a beer that Miami would have less than zero interest in playing Division III, given their facility.
FireKnight
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PrezdeJohnson09
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
My guess is the poster might be confusing Clarkson's early years to when they played some Division III schools. I believe at the time they played Elmira for sure and potentially RIT/Plattsburgh as well?
I just checked and in Clarkson's first varsity season they played eight games against Division III schools in Elmira, Middlebury, Plattsburgh, Colby, Bowdoin, Utica. Elmira and Plattsburgh were twice.
My guess is the poster might be confusing Clarkson's early years to when they played some Division III schools. I believe at the time they played Elmira for sure and potentially RIT/Plattsburgh as well?
I just checked and in Clarkson's first varsity season they played eight games against Division III schools in Elmira, Middlebury, Plattsburgh, Colby, Bowdoin, Utica. Elmira and Plattsburgh were twice.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
I would say there are more than a few exceptions. Anyone know the real reasons the NCAA did this?
I would say there are more than a few exceptions. Anyone know the real reasons the NCAA did this?
Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Looking at just Minnesota, the University of Minnesota is the only school that's D1 in all sports. Bemidji State, St. Cloud State, Minnesota-Duluth and Minnesota State-Mankato are D1 in hockey only.
I'd be interested in knowing the answer to this question as well. Also when they put in the rule.
Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
The programs don't rely on the grandfathered exception to be D1 in hockey only. They are all D2 schools in other sports, and since there is no D2 hockey, either men's or women's, they are allowed to play D1. They probably would get the grandfathered exception if they needed it, but any other school that is D2 in all other sports would be allowed to play D1 hockey.
The programs don't rely on the grandfathered exception to be D1 in hockey only. They are all D2 schools in other sports, and since there is no D2 hockey, either men's or women's, they are allowed to play D1. They probably would get the grandfathered exception if they needed it, but any other school that is D2 in all other sports would be allowed to play D1 hockey.
gojackets
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
So with the addition of Northland next year...that puts us at 59 teams. Does that mean a 9th slot in the NCAA tournament. Definitely with Aurora joinging and getting us to 60, there should be 9.
Its too bad these teams can't join the WIAC to get them closer to an autobid
So with the addition of Northland next year...that puts us at 59 teams. Does that mean a 9th slot in the NCAA tournament. Definitely with Aurora joinging and getting us to 60, there should be 9.
Its too bad these teams can't join the WIAC to get them closer to an autobid
PrezdeJohnson09
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Don't forget about Lebanon Valley too.
So with the addition of Northland next year...that puts us at 59 teams. Does that mean a 9th slot in the NCAA tournament. Definitely with Aurora joinging and getting us to 60, there should be 9.
Its too bad these teams can't join the WIAC to get them closer to an autobid
Don't forget about Lebanon Valley too.
Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Based on the number of open dates LV has posted for both genders on the AHCA board, it looks like even the other hockey schools forgot about Lebanon Valley
Based on the number of open dates LV has posted for both genders on the AHCA board, it looks like even the other hockey schools forgot about Lebanon Valley
Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Probably because the men's coach is doing the recruiting for the women's team since they haven't hired a women's coach yet even though they're supposed to start playing next season. He has zero background in women's hockey so not a good recruiting recipe if they want to be competitive at all. I have a feeling very low end players will be on that team and that's a shame to start the women's program in that way. They probably are on a very tight budget so he'll set everything up for whoever they hire and then that person will have to slowly make the program their own. It's too bad really.
Probably because the men's coach is doing the recruiting for the women's team since they haven't hired a women's coach yet even though they're supposed to start playing next season. He has zero background in women's hockey so not a good recruiting recipe if they want to be competitive at all. I have a feeling very low end players will be on that team and that's a shame to start the women's program in that way. They probably are on a very tight budget so he'll set everything up for whoever they hire and then that person will have to slowly make the program their own. It's too bad really.
Hammer
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
Depends. If they hire the assistant softball coach or something, like they did with the men's varsity coach (the assistant baseball coach), then they're going to send themselves off to a slow start. That first coaching hire is going to be crucial.
It can be done just as you said, but the process must be started correctly.
Depends. If they hire the assistant softball coach or something, like they did with the men's varsity coach (the assistant baseball coach), then they're going to send themselves off to a slow start. That first coaching hire is going to be crucial.
It can be done just as you said, but the process must be started correctly.
gojackets
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
I also think it was easy for St Norbert because they had such a strong men's program. If you know hockey schools, you're going to know the name St. Norbert...I'm certain the recruits felt confident that SNC wasn't just starting a program to have a program...but were committed to getting to the top fast. With Aurora being an unknown...it could be more like CUW or Marian in the regards of needing to start small and try to get better. It will help that they will have a good shot at the Illinois players...being only the 2nd option in Illinois.
I also think it was easy for St Norbert because they had such a strong men's program. If you know hockey schools, you're going to know the name St. Norbert...I'm certain the recruits felt confident that SNC wasn't just starting a program to have a program...but were committed to getting to the top fast. With Aurora being an unknown...it could be more like CUW or Marian in the regards of needing to start small and try to get better. It will help that they will have a good shot at the Illinois players...being only the 2nd option in Illinois.
giwan
Really??!!
There are plenty of examples of disparities between strong and weak programs at colleges. The main reason for the success at St Norbert was the coach they had.
gojackets
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Re: Aurora University is adding a D3 women's team in 2017-18
So, on the men's thread there is a discussion regarding rumors floating that Finlandia and St. Scholastica might be jumping ship from the NCHA to join the WIAC, as associate members, to help the men's WIAC to the 7 teams required for an autobid. One would assume if they are moving the men's teams they are moving the women's teams as well, which would move the WIAC to 6 teams.
NCHA would still have 7 with the addition of Aurora and Northland.
As far as Finlandia, I don't really see it affecting them in any way...unless they have a drastic paradigm shift they will stay at the bottom regardless of what conference they play in. However, I could see it hurting St. Scholastica as they have, at times, competed for that autobid in the NCHA. If we could just get UW-Stout to start a women's team things would be moving in a better direction.
So with the addition of Northland next year...that puts us at 59 teams. Does that mean a 9th slot in the NCAA tournament. Definitely with Aurora joinging and getting us to 60, there should be 9.
Its too bad these teams can't join the WIAC to get them closer to an autobid
So, on the men's thread there is a discussion regarding rumors floating that Finlandia and St. Scholastica might be jumping ship from the NCHA to join the WIAC, as associate members, to help the men's WIAC to the 7 teams required for an autobid. One would assume if they are moving the men's teams they are moving the women's teams as well, which would move the WIAC to 6 teams.
NCHA would still have 7 with the addition of Aurora and Northland.
As far as Finlandia, I don't really see it affecting them in any way...unless they have a drastic paradigm shift they will stay at the bottom regardless of what conference they play in. However, I could see it hurting St. Scholastica as they have, at times, competed for that autobid in the NCHA. If we could just get UW-Stout to start a women's team things would be moving in a better direction.
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