ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

[RPI92]

Let's go red! Go for the sweep!

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

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For your listening pleasure:

Fight Song
http://pepband.union.rpi.edu/music/LongHail.mp3

Alma Mater
http://pepband.union.rpi.edu/music3/06 Alma Mater.mp3

 

[turk181]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

I don’t expect Wilson in tonight’s lineup again. Told me he’s dealing with a minor ankle injury. He had no noticeable limp. These 2 games vs ASU should be the last of Devito’s absence, if I understood him correctly. Of course, he’ll now have to earn his ice time during the next few weeks before Miami. Personally I’ld go with Kazzy again & split the Miami series. Good time to give him a back-to-back. Keep skating hard & keep putting pucks on net tonight. Tonight’s game starts the 2nd half of the regular season with a chance to pick up win #10 (12 wins all of last year). Go 10-7 after that & we’re looking at a 20 win season.

 

[turk181]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

Last night’s Game Highlights & SA PostGame (bottom of page)..... http://www.rpiathletics.com/index.aspx?path=hockey

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

I don’t expect Wilson in tonight’s lineup again. Told me he’s dealing with a minor ankle injury. He had no noticeable limp. These 2 games vs ASU should be the last of Devito’s absence, if I understood him correctly. Of course, he’ll now have to earn his ice time during the next few weeks before Miami. Personally I’ld go with Kazzy again & split the Miami series. Good time to give him a back-to-back. Keep skating hard & keep putting pucks on net tonight. Tonight’s game starts the 2nd half of the regular season with a chance to pick up win #10 (12 wins all of last year). Go 10-7 after that & we’re looking at a 20 win season.

I didn't think that Wilson was a healthy scratch.

The other three members of Devito's class, Bourbonnais, Reno, and Wood, have all stepped up this year from their first two years. Hopefully we can also get that from DeVito.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

I didn't think that Wilson was a healthy scratch.

The other three members of Devito's class, Bourbonnais, Reno, and Wood, have all stepped up this year from their first two years. Hopefully we can also get that from DeVito.

It would just be nice to get another healthy forward on the team.
No let up tonight.
Take care of business.

lets go red!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

It would just be nice to get another healthy forward on the team.

I am greedy.

It seems to me that the performance of Bourbonnais et al. this year belies the notion that no one improves while at RPI.

 

[RPI fan 4 life]

I am greedy.

It seems to me that the performance of Bourbonnais et al. this year belies the notion that no one improves while at RPI.

Did you know that Bourbonnais has as many goals (9) this year as any RPI player had all of last year? Not bad with half a season to go...

 

[DrDemento]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

Did you know that Bourbonnais has as many goals (9) this year as any RPI player had all of last year? Not bad with half a season to go...

Give him lots of credit. But, subtract a little bit for each dumb penalty or retaliation penalty taken this year also. Games have been altered significantly by our taking far more penalty minutes than our opponents. i do think a fairly large number were not deserved but that still leaves a lot that we earned with our own ability to allow the officials to call them on us. A small example last night - Gillespie had a very strong game, skating and shooting. But he took a totally stupid penalty late in the game. it did not cost us a loss or even a tie but it did cost Kazzie a shut out. Small point in the scheme of things but I am sure we can all list others this year that led to far more significant disappointment.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

I am greedy.

It seems to me that the performance of Bourbonnais et al. this year belies the notion that no one improves while at RPI.

Or you could look at it as evidence that some of the younger players are held back a bit in their first and second year for some reason? I prefer to look at it as you do because even after 1/2 of their first season, some of our players defensively are making mistakes that you really cannot abide at the Division I level of the NCAA. It is not only facing better plaqyers at this level, you are also going up against coaching staffs that are far better than the preparatory leagues and they can find and exploit weaknesses more easily.

 

[RPI92]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

It seemed like the 3rd or 4th lines were getting a lot of time last night. The competition from ASU is not very strong so I think SA is treating these like development games.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

It seemed like the 3rd or 4th lines were getting a lot of time last night. The competition from ASU is not very strong so I think SA is treating these like development games.

That, and they were playing pretty well. Also, without frequent penalty calls on us, SA was able to keep lines together and just keep rolling them over the boards. It is a very different set of circumstances when we are trying to kill off a ton of penalties and toss in a couple 5 on 3 situations or a major.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

I am greedy.

It seems to me that the performance of Bourbonnais et al. this year belies the notion that no one improves while at RPI.

Not sure that can be said for the goaltenders...

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

Give him lots of credit. But, subtract a little bit for each dumb penalty or retaliation penalty taken this year also. Games have been altered significantly by our taking far more penalty minutes than our opponents. i do think a fairly large number were not deserved but that still leaves a lot that we earned with our own ability to allow the officials to call them on us. A small example last night - Gillespie had a very strong game, skating and shooting. But he took a totally stupid penalty late in the game. it did not cost us a loss or even a tie but it did cost Kazzie a shut out. Small point in the scheme of things but I am sure we can all list others this year that led to far more significant disappointment.

To be fair, Steinel had some sort of vendetta on Bourbonnais during the CCT/SLU weekend, and Appert was hounding the ref all night during the SLU game about it. It's a little sad we have to talk about the officiating crew being a variable in games, but it does happen. Last night, for the most part, the penalties taken on both sides were deserved.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

Or you could look at it as evidence that some of the younger players are held back a bit in their first and second year for some reason? I prefer to look at it as you do because even after 1/2 of their first season, some of our players defensively are making mistakes that you really cannot abide at the Division I level of the NCAA. It is not only facing better plaqyers at this level, you are also going up against coaching staffs that are far better than the preparatory leagues and they can find and exploit weaknesses more easily.

It could of course also be that they were being held back. However although that may be the case for Reno, Bourbonnais and Wood just did little scoring their first two years except for RB early last season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

Not sure that can be said for the goaltenders...

Goaltenders just are ------------------- different.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

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If you click on the two pictures things get closer to normal by next weekend.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

It could of course also be that they were being held back. However although that may be the case for Reno, Bourbonnais and Wood just did little scoring their first two years except for RB early last season.

It also goes back to the somewhat conflicting message the coaching staff has sent regarding underclassmen and upperclassmen. Is it going to take time to adjust to a college game? Absolutely. But if a different class year is being held to a different level, standard, and trustworthiness, of course they're going to be "held back". I remember once hearing that the standard for first semester freshman was a "situational adjustment", which could explain why a number of players had a "sophomore slump".

 

[DrDemento]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

It could of course also be that they were being held back. However although that may be the case for Reno, Bourbonnais and Wood just did little scoring their first two years except for RB early last season.

Of course. But following this program for as long as we have, we have seen coaches with varied philosophies. It most certainly takes some boys longer to adjust than others. And they come in with all different levels and types of talent. But every so often you get a couple of freshmen that are just so good and adjust so quickly, you sound a bit silly saying that we have to be led by the upperclassmen. I am sure you recall the RPI freshmen coming into Troy when we had that 1965-66 debacle. (And of course freshmen were not eligible for the varsity then) But how do you hold them back as sophomores when as freshmen they could beat the varsity?

 

[DrDemento]

Re: ASU @ RPI, Sat, 12/12/15

To be fair, Steinel had some sort of vendetta on Bourbonnais during the CCT/SLU weekend, and Appert was hounding the ref all night during the SLU game about it. It's a little sad we have to talk about the officiating crew being a variable in games, but it does happen. Last night, for the most part, the penalties taken on both sides were deserved.

It was surprisingly well officiated (perhaps because in the scheme of things it meant little to the ECAC). And the penalties were deserved. Still not an excuse for taking one in the offensive zone leading 4-0 late in the third period. it was perhaps the only blot against Kenny G last night while he was having a very strong game.