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AP: New WCHA "bleeding money"

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I stand corrected. It was a Thursday night game.

Will have to see if MSU vs OSU draws a bigger crowd tonight.
 
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Superfly100 said:
I stand corrected. It was a Thursday night game.

Will have to see if MSU vs OSU draws a bigger crowd tonight.
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I'm sure it will be better, but still worse than a bad thursday night in the old days...no one in Minnesota cares about Michigan State or Ohio State.
 
IrishHockeyFan said:
I guess I wasn't clear enough in the point I tried to make when I posted "While I don't think the B1G hockey conference has necessarily been good for the 6 teams in it, I don't think it has been bad for college hockey." What has happened has not be good, but it wasn't the B1G that caused this suffering, it was the change in the WCHA and the folding of the CCHA that was brought about because of a few other schools reacting in such a knee-jerk way. Had everyone simply stayed put, many schools would be better off than they are today, and some greatly so. Many would be at the same level. Few would be in a worse position.
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The big name schools not playing at the small schools unless it's 2 for 1 has hurt the small schools a lot. Lake Superior has or will have made at least 3 trips in recent years to South Bend or the Irish holiday tournament yet Notre Dame refuses to go to the Soo. Minnesota goes to Duluth, St Cloud, Bemidji & Mankato once every four years instead of every year. Wisconsin has been the only one of the big ten colleges to give the smaller schools a fair shake. Now, the formation of the NCHC made things worse. Western Michigan or Miami had many rivals within a half day's drive and fans had it much easier going to road games.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
I'm sure it will be better, but still worse than a bad thursday night in the old days...no one in Minnesota cares about Michigan State or Ohio State.
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Neither does anyone from North Dakota, it was always the drunk UND fans who filled the place up when UMN wasn't playing.
 
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Almington said:
Neither does anyone from North Dakota, it was always the drunk UND fans who filled the place up when UMN wasn't playing.
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very true...Minnesota and North Dakote drove that tournament with the great attendance numbers buffered by St. Cloud, UMD, Wisconsin and Michigan Tech. The biggest fallacy of the NCHC is the thought that DU brought financial value to the F5. They brought no fans, but I guess they brought first round money?
 
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I'm sorry, but the early game in the Final Five would have similar attendance.
 
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Lol. People are so quick to bash this like its some epic disaster. They don't even stop to think before they post.

It will be bad, but let's not sh#t ourselves trying.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Lol. People are so quick to bash this like its some epic disaster. They don't even stop to think before they post.

It will be bad, but let's not sh#t ourselves trying.
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It will be similar to the CCHA tournament in years past. The problem is that the comparison to the WCHA F5 is so striking because of how amazing the F5 was.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Even the final five had garbage attendance the first day game.
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What's your definition of "garbage" for attendance?

2013 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Wisconsin vs. Mankato at 2:07pm -- 15,971

2012 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Denver vs. Michigan Tech at 2:07pm -- 11,489

2011 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Minnesota-Duluth vs. Bemidji State at 3:37pm -- 13,131

I'd say that's pretty decent numbers for afternoon games on a Thursday.
 
SiouxFanatic said:
What's your definition of "garbage" for attendance?

2013 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Wisconsin vs. Mankato at 2:07pm -- 15,971

2012 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Denver vs. Michigan Tech at 2:07pm -- 11,489

2011 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Minnesota-Duluth vs. Bemidji State at 3:37pm -- 13,131

I'd say that's pretty decent numbers for afternoon games on a Thursday.
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That's paid attendance, not actual butts in seats attendance.
 
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I went to that Wisconsin MSU game. There was nowhere near 16k there. It was pick your section.
 
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SiouxFanatic said:
What's your definition of "garbage" for attendance?

2013 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Wisconsin vs. Mankato at 2:07pm -- 15,971

2012 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Denver vs. Michigan Tech at 2:07pm -- 11,489

2011 WCHA F5 Thursday afternoon game:
Minnesota-Duluth vs. Bemidji State at 3:37pm -- 13,131

I'd say that's pretty decent numbers for afternoon games on a Thursday.
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Pretty sure those 2012 and 2013 games are not the attendance of that game, but the paid attendance for the entire Thursday session.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
Pretty sure those 2012 and 2013 games are not the attendance of that game, but the paid attendance for the entire Thursday session.
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Could be right. I did notice that the listed attendance did rise in the evening Thursday games.

PS Really dislike the whole "paid" attendance vs. actual attendance discrepancy.
 
davyd83 said:
The big name schools not playing at the small schools unless it's 2 for 1 has hurt the small schools a lot. Lake Superior has or will have made at least 3 trips in recent years to South Bend or the Irish holiday tournament yet Notre Dame refuses to go to the Soo. Minnesota goes to Duluth, St Cloud, Bemidji & Mankato once every four years instead of every year. Wisconsin has been the only one of the big ten colleges to give the smaller schools a fair shake. Now, the formation of the NCHC made things worse. Western Michigan or Miami had many rivals within a half day's drive and fans had it much easier going to road games.
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I'm not one for defending the big ten or m8nnesota, but that's a gross mischaracterization of the minnesota schools relationships. MN also agrees to do the nscc which splits the revenues between the schools. It may not be a one for one trade, but it's an arrangement that works for all 5 schools.
 
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davyd83 said:
The big name schools not playing at the small schools unless it's 2 for 1 has hurt the small schools a lot. Lake Superior has or will have made at least 3 trips in recent years to South Bend or the Irish holiday tournament yet Notre Dame refuses to go to the Soo. Minnesota goes to Duluth, St Cloud, Bemidji & Mankato once every four years instead of every year. Wisconsin has been the only one of the big ten colleges to give the smaller schools a fair shake. Now, the formation of the NCHC made things worse. Western Michigan or Miami had many rivals within a half day's drive and fans had it much easier going to road games.
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Speaking of Wisconsin, why is it that whenever they play NMU that they won't travel to Marquette? I see what looks to be 2 for 1 deals that always have the 1 in Green Bay instead (unless I'm overlooking something.)
 
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