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41st Canadian Election: Bloc Party!

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Basically, yes, though under Layton the NDP has gradually shifted from being a party of rural populists and organized labor to be more oriented towards big-city progressivism.

As you said, Red Cloud, the resurgence of Layton and the NDP seems rather shocking to me. The only way I can explain it is as a sort of "pox on both their houses" scenario. I've come to the conclusion that a lot of people dislike Harper personally (to me, he comes off as a sanctimonious nerd somewhat analogous to Paul Ryan), whereas Ignatieff (who would be remarkably unelectable in the US due to his extensive time spent outside Canada, his wife's non-citizen status and his academic credentials) is something of a Canadian John Kerry -- a figure with nil charisma who is forever trying to make himself sound dumber and lower-cultured in a futile attempt to relate to his audience. Layton has a tendency to sound like a used-car salesman, but I can't help but think that some personal challenges (he's had prostate cancer recently and is walking with a cane due to a recent hip surgery) is making him look a little less crazy.

Gilles Duceppe, who has been leading the federal BQ since the mid-90s, has got to seem like a pretty tired option by now, and the Greens to me smack of political 'mainstreaming,' that is, their support is being vastly overestimated in hopes of appearing 'fair and balanced.'

Harper's going to win, and probably a majority, because he's facing a divided opposition the likes of which Jean Chretien would envy, but the Liberals really don't have their **** together (their last leader, Stephanie Dion, was even worse and he didn't even speak decent English), and they may pay for it.
 
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NDP are more "socialist" than the others????

Just asking, not labeling.

Yes, the NDP are the far left party in Canada. The Liberals are a centre left party, the Conservatives are a centre right party. Although many left leaning people in Canada would disagree with me and say that the Conservatives are a far right party, but in reality they are much closer to centre than that.
 
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Yes, the NDP are the far left party in Canada. The Liberals are a centre left party, the Conservatives are a centre right party. Although many left leaning people in Canada would disagree with me and say that the Conservatives are a far right party, but in reality they are much closer to centre than that.

The NDP evolved from the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, progressives that came together during the Depression.

The Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) was a Canadian political party founded in 1932 in Calgary, Alberta, by a number of socialist, farm, co-operative and labour groups, and the League for Social Reconstruction. In 1944, it became the first socialist government in North America (based in Saskatchewan). In 1961, it disbanded and was replaced by the New Democratic Party.

Layton is a progressive, but he's actually mellowed and moved closer to the center since he and wife Olivia Chow were city council members in Toronto.
 
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I dunno, this kinda seems... idiotic.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Elections+Canada+muzzle+Twitter/4666614/story.html

Elections Canada has decided to take on the Twitterverse.

It has announced that it will apply a law from the 1930s to prevent election results from Atlantic Canada from being posted on Twitter before the polls close in the rest of the country. Elections Canada claims that it is merely enforcing the law, but it applies it so unevenly that its argument does not hold water. This is why bureaucrats shouldn't be let anywhere near social media -their instinct is to control it.

Section 329 of the Elections Act states that "no person shall transmit the results" from one riding to another before the polls are closed. The fine for breaking this can be up to $25,000 -and Elections Canada has a history of prosecuting people under this section. After the 2000 election it raided the home of a man who had posted the early results on his website, fined him and seized his computer.

Ridiculous in this day and age.

Fortunately, I am above Canadian law. I will be tweeting as much as I can on Monday night, and any Canadian who wants to read my tweets is welcome to.
 
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The big day is here and ridings in Newfoundland are starting to learn what's going down. I don't know about the other Canadophiles on the board, but I get my CBC from Montreal, where Peter Mansbridge comes on at 9 p.m. ET.
 
The big day is here and ridings in Newfoundland are starting to learn what's going down. I don't know about the other Canadophiles on the board, but I get my CBC from Montreal, where Peter Mansbridge comes on at 9 p.m. ET.

Internet at the house has been down since Thursday while Verizon "upgrades" our service. Why did I choose this weekend?

Hoping for a Conservative majority
 
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Here in Communist Canuckistan any channel broadcasting election results in a province where the polls are still open is shut down. So the all news channels are currently off air until 7:00 PM PST and the locals are not saying anything about what's happening back east. So if anyone wants to post results please feel free, I'd love to know what's going on back east.
 
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They're apparently teasing us in Quebec/Michigan (polls apparently still don't close for another half-hour), but Mansbridge is hinting at a big night for the NDP.

Edit: Dear God, they have a magic board.
 
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It's go time - Tories lead in both seats and votes in Atlantic Canada. Current totals - Cons 14, Liberal 11, NDP 8.
 
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Peter MacKay (Conservative defense minister) did just fine in NS. Early swing indicates the Conservatives and NDP picked up three apiece, all at the expense of the Liberals.
 
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One bellwether Quebec riding in the Atlantic time zone portends a great result for the NDP, which is leading midway through the count in a BQ stronghold in the Gaspe Peninsula.
 
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It's go time - Tories lead in both seats and votes in Atlantic Canada. Current totals - Cons 14, Liberal 11, NDP 8.

That's a good early indicator for the Tories. The Maritimes are usually a Liberal stronghold. Clearly the Libs and NDP are vote splitting, which may help the Conservatives elsewhere.
 
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At 9:45, the totals are: Conservative 29, Liberal 20, NDP 17, Bloc 2 (that's leading or elected).
 
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At 10 ET, the Conservatives are already over 100 seats but I think a lot of those are leadings very early in counts.
 
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CBC is projecting that it will be a Conservative government with the NDP in second, but the how is still to be determined. I'm watching the Tigers **** another game away, so I missed the initial announcement.
 
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At 10:30 ET, the Conservatives are approaching the majority number, but many of their leads are small and early. The NDP appears to have picked up 30 PERCENT in Quebec (where Jack Layton once said he used to poll behind the Marijuana Party). Ignatieff and Duceppe are still in jeopardy of losing their own seats, and both are praying that Layton can get enough to stop a majority or else the top two parties just 15 years ago will be out in the wilderness for a long time.
 
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