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2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I think you're being just a bit paranoid there. :p
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Which is more likely? Karl Rove, who has worked his entire adult life to be the "turd blossom" of the Republican party, employing sleight of hand, deceit, deflection and distraction to further that party's aims, (1) one day breaths in God's refreshing air of redemption, sees the light and becomes honest and forthright and speaks his mind boldly despite that hurting his chances for influence in that party. Or (2) SSDD?
 
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Kepler said:
Which is more likely? Karl Rove, who has worked his entire adult life to be the "turd blossom" of the Republican party, employing sleight of hand, deceit, deflection and distraction to further that party's aims, (1) one day breaths in God's refreshing air of redemption, sees the light and becomes honest and forthright and speaks his mind boldly despite that hurting his chances for influence in that party. Or (2) SSDD?
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James Carville of the right?
 
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joecct said:
James Carville of the right?
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I'd say Mary Matalin is the James Carville of the right. :)

Talk about a couple who did the world a favor by taking each other off the market.
 
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And more.

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) on Tuesday announced that he has begun the process to remove Confederate flag symbols from state-issued license plates
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That's great, but I don't agree with CNN playing social justice warriors, calling up major retailers and demanding a statement on when they'll follow Wally World's lead and quit selling Confederate merch.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
That's great, but I don't agree with CNN playing social justice warriors, calling up major retailers and demanding a statement on when they'll follow Wally World's lead and quit selling Confederate merch.
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Why not? That's the job of the press. And those companies have whole departments of people whose job it is to "relate" to the "public."
 
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If Southern herp-a-derps want to wear Stars and Bars t-shirts and shout "The South Shall Rise Again!", I'm not in favor of bullying companies out of the market for the product (even though I suspect these decisions were inevitable, for corporate imaging reasons).

Flying the actual flag on the grounds of a state capitol in sovereign US territory is a completely different matter.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
If Southern herp-a-derps want to wear Stars and Bars t-shirts and shout "The South Shall Rise Again!", I'm not in favor of bullying companies out of the market for the product (even though I suspect these decisions were inevitable, for corporate imaging reasons).

Flying the actual flag on the grounds of a state capitol in sovereign US territory is a completely different matter.
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I agree, but I don't see what that has to do with the media contacting a company to see whether they're changing their policy. They can always give no comment.

Unrelated: the relative lack of availability of the symbol will now make it that much more of a prized symbol for the herpa-derps who want to shout that message, and in turn it will make it that much easier to know who you're dealing with when you see one. Like swastika tattoos, they won't be illegal, but they'll require more of a commitment, and they'll be very useful markers.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
That's great, but I don't agree with CNN playing social justice warriors, calling up major retailers and demanding a statement on when they'll follow Wally World's lead and quit selling Confederate merch.
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We need a corollary to Godwin's Law to cover "social justice warrior." That phrase sucks and needs to DIAF. Especially since its been coopted by the gamergaters.
 
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Kepler said:
Why not? That's the job of the press. And those companies have whole departments of people whose job it is to "relate" to the "public."
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Except CNN, along with a lot of the government media complex, have been race baiting for the last few months now, and with the NDAA trumping a previous act that prevents the government media complex from spreading propaganda lies...
 
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Well the guy killed Christians in a Church...God trumps the color of skin ;)
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Except CNN, along with a lot of the government media complex, have been race baiting for the last few months now, and with the NDAA trumping a previous act that prevents the government media complex from spreading propaganda lies...
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But nobody watches CNN so who cares?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Meanwhile secession talk is ramping up all over the South.
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Which is why it's important for centrists, especially in the GOP, to move carefully. This is a chance to separate the sheep from the goats. There must be vast numbers of southern white conservatives who are every bit as small government, religious freedom, and even states' rights as they were yesterday but who also can put themselves in their black fellow citizens' shoes and think, "Yeah -- seeing something they hold akin to the Nazi flag when they go to the statehouse has got to sting. We're big enough to see that." And then there are large, though hopefully not nearly so vast, numbers of southern white conservatives who are going to go apesh-t over this, blame Obama, and buy a few more guns to prepare for the coming of the UN copters.

From what I've seen there are just as many local GOP as Democratic figures calling for the removal of confederate symbols from state flags, grounds, and license plates. This could be a moment of unity and healing for all Americans, and we haven't had many of those since the immediate aftermath of 9/11. This is something that large majorities of people seem to be agreeing on, regardless of their political identification.

So everybody be cool and don't blow it. Any time we can move the hands of the Second Civil War clock back a few minutes, we should do it.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
...as you have CNN yapping on the side.

And to be fair, that's all you see in hospital waiting rooms around here. Either that or PMSNBC.
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Flaggy I'd rather watch YOU host a news show than watch CNN. Despite your insanity, I'm sure that you would 1) be entertaining, and 2) wouldn't spend every waking moment trying to achieve false equivalency in your reporting. Hell, with you spewing your own version of New World Order Black Helicopter Govt of the United Nations drivel, you might put Limbaugh, Levin, and Beck out of business!!! :D
 
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Kepler said:
Which is why it's important for centrists, especially in the GOP, to move carefully. This is a chance to separate the sheep from the goats. There must be vast numbers of southern white conservatives who are every bit as small government, religious freedom, and even states' rights as they were yesterday but who also can put themselves in their black fellow citizens' shoes and think, "Yeah -- seeing something they hold akin to the Nazi flag when they go to the statehouse has got to sting. We're big enough to see that." And then there are large, though hopefully not nearly so vast, numbers of southern white conservatives who are going to go apesh-t over this, blame Obama, and buy a few more guns to prepare for the coming of the UN copters.

From what I've seen there are just as many local GOP as Democratic figures calling for the removal of confederate symbols from state flags, grounds, and license plates. This could be a moment of unity and healing for all Americans, and we haven't had many of those since the immediate aftermath of 9/11. This is something that large majorities of people seem to be agreeing on, regardless of their political identification.

So everybody be cool and don't blow it. Any time we can move the hands of the Second Civil War clock back a few minutes, we should do it.
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Would the Stars & Bars be an acceptable compromise?
 
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