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2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
They filed the lawsuit.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/house-gop-file-lawsuit-against-obama-n253456
They filed the lawsuit.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/house-gop-file-lawsuit-against-obama-n253456
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Under GROUNDS is scrawled in crayon, "Is not a Republican."
It's good to see that they are going to address America's substantive issues now that they have both chambers.
Under GROUNDS is scrawled in crayon, "Is not a Republican."
It's good to see that they are going to address America's substantive issues now that they have both chambers.
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
But somebody needs to figure out the limits of executive power otherwise we really could end up with an emperor/dictator. Sooner is way better than later.
Not yet. 6 more weeks or so.
But somebody needs to figure out the limits of executive power otherwise we really could end up with an emperor/dictator. Sooner is way better than later.
unofan
Well-known member
Funny how the limits of executive power only became a talking point now.
Kinda like how deficits only matter at certain points in time too. We should see if there is a common factor....
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Priceless
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Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Funny. When liberals tried to question executive power we were told it was treasonous and we hated America. CJ Roberts and Alito (and maybe Thomas and Scalia) are on board with the whole "unitary executive" idea so we don't even need a Congress.
Funny. When liberals tried to question executive power we were told it was treasonous and we hated America. CJ Roberts and Alito (and maybe Thomas and Scalia) are on board with the whole "unitary executive" idea so we don't even need a Congress.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Equally as funny is how those same liberals don't question the issue now. Hypocrisy runs rampant in both parties.
Equally as funny is how those same liberals don't question the issue now. Hypocrisy runs rampant in both parties.
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Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Why should we? We were told it wasn't important, so we moved on to other things.
Why should we? We were told it wasn't important, so we moved on to other things.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
To be fair, back in 2002, anyone who didn't have a dollar store, "Made in China" American flag flying from their car window was automatically given the hairy eyeball in some parts of the country.
To be fair, back in 2002, anyone who didn't have a dollar store, "Made in China" American flag flying from their car window was automatically given the hairy eyeball in some parts of the country.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Agreed completely. The Chimperor was the closest I ever want to get. A one-term Libertarian president would be useful since he'd allow the hamstringing of the Executive. It would also be wicked funny to see Congress have to finally govern again, rather than leaning on the EOP as a crutch while simultaneously denouncing "overreach." Everybody's a villain here (the righty SCOTUS' 180 on the unitary executive is going to be a particularly huge portion of crow), but the worst are the craven legislators (of both parties) who cover their butts by always passing the buck up Pennsylvania Ave.
Agreed completely. The Chimperor was the closest I ever want to get. A one-term Libertarian president would be useful since he'd allow the hamstringing of the Executive. It would also be wicked funny to see Congress have to finally govern again, rather than leaning on the EOP as a crutch while simultaneously denouncing "overreach." Everybody's a villain here (the righty SCOTUS' 180 on the unitary executive is going to be a particularly huge portion of crow), but the worst are the craven legislators (of both parties) who cover their butts by always passing the buck up Pennsylvania Ave.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Except for the part where many of "those same liberals" ARE questioning it...
Agree about hypocrisy, but the Dems have been taking the silver in it for at least 30 years.
Except for the part where many of "those same liberals" ARE questioning it...
Agree about hypocrisy, but the Dems have been taking the silver in it for at least 30 years.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Just wait until another (R) grabs the WH. Then it will be all about our sacred duty to come together AND SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT!!!!111!!
Conservative "principles" wax and wane with their electoral advantage. SSDD.
Just wait until another (R) grabs the WH. Then it will be all about our sacred duty to come together AND SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT!!!!111!!
Conservative "principles" wax and wane with their electoral advantage. SSDD.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
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Any time either party mentions "their principles" I reminded of the great quote by Groucho: "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." Hypocrisy or Principles, to assume one party has an advantage over the other is the definition of gullibility
Good to see all of those concerned liberals backed up their principles with their vote. Oh wait....
Any time either party mentions "their principles" I reminded of the great quote by Groucho: "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." Hypocrisy or Principles, to assume one party has an advantage over the other is the definition of gullibility
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
An awesome line. Another Groucho quote: "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."
An awesome line. Another Groucho quote: "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."
Not from this poster. An EO on a Turkey Day proclamation is fine. An EO saying that I think the law says this and that is the way it is is bad.
I agree with your earlier post. Congress needs to act as one of the equal tripods of this Republic. They've been buck passing for way too long.
unofan
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You realize the Code of Federal Regulations is essentially a bunch of executive orders made by agencies saying this is how we interpret the law, right? They just come from agencies instead of the president. And they get used just as often in court as the U.S. code itself.
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
Some Agency may have broken new ground and pulled something out of deep left field, but not my Agency.
But the Regs that I was involved with that eventually got published in the Federal Register (oh! is that a laborious process!) were to implement existing legislation, not change it.
Some Agency may have broken new ground and pulled something out of deep left field, but not my Agency.
unofan
Well-known member
Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck
One person's change is another's mere implementation. See, for example, the current Obamacare case pending before SCOTUS.
When the EEOC decided that sexual orientation could be covered under current law as discrimination based on sex (specifically, bias based on not conforming to gender stereotypes), was that changing the law or merely a change in interpretation?
One person's change is another's mere implementation. See, for example, the current Obamacare case pending before SCOTUS.
When the EEOC decided that sexual orientation could be covered under current law as discrimination based on sex (specifically, bias based on not conforming to gender stereotypes), was that changing the law or merely a change in interpretation?
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