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2026 Frozen Four

The difference though (besides it was outside the blue ice the first time Harvey's hand went down) is that Harvey appears to push the puck towards McNaughton. That's very different than last year, when - in the words of the rule - Maddie Wheeler "gathered the puck to her body". Not just that the puck was played with a hand - if Harvey even did so - but HOW it was played; towards the player's body or away from their body.
Fair enough. Nonetheless I thought, here we go again, another cluster at the end of a national championship game.

Only saw the third. Thought it was cool the lesser known (relatively speaking, and at least to me) Badgers delivered the scoring.
 
Absolutely.

She did not have a good game.

How did she miss that entire open net and hit the goalie with it. Many other plays.

She just didn't look the same in the playoffs and tourney for whatever reason(s).
And when PSU was pounding her I didn't like how she responded to that. We will probably never understand the mental strain that she was under before, during and after the Olympics, and being a student on top of that. She had so much pressure on her. I'm just glad that none of those unfortunate instances cost the Badgers the win. Losing this weekend would have been more crushing than the loss in St. Louis to the Fighting Nurses. I'm still not over that one. Enough gnashing of teeth over a win. Nine is divine I read on Twitter and it sure is. 😁😀😆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
 
And when PSU was pounding her I didn't like how she responded to that. We will probably never understand the mental strain that she was under before, during and after the Olympics, and being a student on top of that. She had so much pressure on her. I'm just glad that none of those unfortunate instances cost the Badgers the win. Losing this weekend would have been more crushing than the loss in St. Louis to the Fighting Nurses. I'm still not over that one. Enough gnashing of teeth over a win. Nine is divine I read on Twitter and it sure is. 😁😀😆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

This.

And with that, I will cease trying to "win the argument" and deleted some of my other thoughts.

Pretty amazing year (5 years) she's had.
 
How about Muzzy though... seen on TV saying "Fuck You" to the ref after their discussion at the bench.

Classy.

:D
Yeah, that was very obvious. Must be part of that vaunted navy seal training.

And asking this for a friend...What is her record in National Championchip games against the sinners again? Seems like it's 1-3. Hey Yucker fans, is that good?
 
I don't understand why Hall wasn't awarded the goal when she got pulled out on empty net attempt.
IMO, the biggest factor was that calling a penalty at all finalized the outcome of the game. As soon as the faceoff was going to be in the tOSU D-zone, there really wasn't any way for the Buckeyes to score. Had the game been in doubt, there would have at least been a discussion, a review, a challenge -- something. At that point, the game was effectively over, and everyone just wanted to get on to the celebrating.

As for why a goal wasn't signaled immediately, my only thought was I don't remember if she already had possession of the puck. Yes, she was about to skate onto the puck and would have scored. I'm thinking that "certain goal" interpretation might vary based on whether or not a team has the puck on a stick.

In 2016, Minnesota lost an ENG when a linesman ruled that a Gopher made a hand pass ... to herself. In that one, BC still had a mathematical chance, so it wasn't just down to how the record book read. However, in hindsight, it doesn't really matter that much to a player who is celebrating.
 
IMO, the biggest factor was that calling a penalty at all finalized the outcome of the game. As soon as the faceoff was going to be in the tOSU D-zone, there really wasn't any way for the Buckeyes to score. Had the game been in doubt, there would have at least been a discussion, a review, a challenge -- something. At that point, the game was effectively over, and everyone just wanted to get on to the celebrating.

As for why a goal wasn't signaled immediately, my only thought was I don't remember if she already had possession of the puck. Yes, she was about to skate onto the puck and would have scored. I'm thinking that "certain goal" interpretation might vary based on whether or not a team has the puck on a stick.

In 2016, Minnesota lost an ENG when a linesman ruled that a Gopher made a hand pass ... to herself. In that one, BC still had a mathematical chance, so it wasn't just down to how the record book read. However, in hindsight, it doesn't really matter that much to a player who is celebrating.
My recollection of the play is the same as yours -- Hall was going to be first to the puck, but got taken down before getting to it.

You're not getting an awarded goal when you don't even have possession of the puck.
 
My recollection of the play is the same as yours -- Hall was going to be first to the puck, but got taken down before getting to it.

You're not getting an awarded goal when you don't even have possession of the puck.
Just looked at the video (ESPN archives games for replay; if you have access to ESPN-Plus, the whole broadcast is there).

Hall gets hooked before she gets to the puck. Her stick comes close to touching the puck while the hook is happening, and *maybe* she grazes it, but more likely not.
 
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