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2022-23 Penn State Nittany Lions

robertearle said:
That pair of refs - Ludwig and Kaehler - are the top pair in the WCHA. If there's a 'big' game or weekend series, there's a high likelihood that they will be the ones working the series. I think they do a pretty good job of handling what have to be difficult match-ups to referee - Minn vs Wisconsin or Ohio State, etc. Others (Eeyore, for one) tend to disagree.
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I should note that my problem is their approach to reffing rather than objections to specific calls. Ludwig, especially, was refusing to call penalties long before it apparently became the chic thing for everyone to do. As refs all over have trended in this direction, my problems with Ludwig specifically aren't as great as they used to be. In fact, as No-Cal refs go, he's had enough practice that he's better at it than most.
 
One thing for Ludwig and Kaehler is that those teams played for ~ 110 minutes and we aren't saying that the refs factored heavily into the outcome. In comparison, the refs for the UMD/Clarkson game did play a role in the game. Did I think the calls on the Golden Knights were legit? Yes. I don't think the officials wanted to call the second major (heck, even the call that put them down 5-on-3 could have been a major), but it was so blatant that they were forced to call it. However, there were at least three calls that could have gone against UMD in the first 40 minutes, and those were all no calls. Don't remember too many games of that importance where two periods into it one team has been shorthanded for 14 minutes and the other team doesn't even know where the box is yet.
 
Congratulations to Penn State on both their season and their stellar performance last night.

As I do for Ohio State Home Games, I created a 3 Stars List for the Penn State/Quinnipiac Game. Bonus Coverage, you might say. If you have an interest, it's posted on the Ohio State Thread.
 
ARM said:
One thing for Ludwig and Kaehler is that those teams played for ~ 110 minutes and we aren't saying that the refs factored heavily into the outcome. In comparison, the refs for the UMD/Clarkson game did play a role in the game. Did I think the calls on the Golden Knights were legit? Yes. I don't think the officials wanted to call the second major (heck, even the call that put them down 5-on-3 could have been a major), but it was so blatant that they were forced to call it. However, there were at least three calls that could have gone against UMD in the first 40 minutes, and those were all no calls. Don't remember too many games of that importance where two periods into it one team has been shorthanded for 14 minutes and the other team doesn't even know where the box is yet.
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It has seemed to me over the last couple of years that refs are less concerned about evening up penalty calls. I haven't actually looked it up, but it feels like they are more comfortable calling one team for significantly more penalties than they used to be.
 
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Still Eeyore said:
It has seemed to me over the last couple of years that refs are less concerned about evening up penalty calls.
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And that is fine if that's the game that they're presented. There are games where they don't call anything because there simply isn't anything to call. That's not what I saw last night. If after two periods at Ridder last night it had been 2 majors + 2 minors on Clarkson versus 2 minors on UMD, IMO, that's in the neighborhood of what the play deserved.
 
Mackay and Correia had their best collegiate year at PSU. That's saying something.

As far as Uihlien, Gangarosa and Heminger: Heminger breaks the single season d scoring record, who broke Uihlien's who broke Gangarosa's who broke Bella Sutton's.

Heminger is #1 in D pts all time, Sutton is #2, Gangarosa is #3 and Uihlien is #4.

Gangarosa finishes #1 in games played as a Nittany Lion.
Heminger is second and Heising is third.

Gangarosa finishes #1 in blocked shots all time. Lobdell led the team this year. Lobdell was second team all CHA.
Janecke just doesn't score she blocks a lot of shots too.
How about that non- trip call that was a dangerous trip according to the announcers in the third on Janecke. That was a rodeo takedown.

Heminger gets the first D of the year in the CHA for a d player from PSU.

Uihlien was right there with both of them and has the asterisk that Heminger and Gangarosa had an extra year.

Zanon was nominated for the Patty Kaz, her second time and scored the first PSU goal in PSU NCAA history.

Janecke is probably in a duel with Harvey from Wisconsin for Rookie of the year. Although the Frosh from Mercyhurst is probably in there as well. Janecke is impressive.

Bothun already has all the all time records and PSU is lucky to have her. She had some big saves in the game against Quinnipiac.

Zanon, Lobdell, Bothun, Connolly, Machado, Wallin, Springs and Byrnes will be seniors already next year. Wallin had a very good year - over 30 pts and a goal and assist in the NCAA's. She was close to putting PSU up by two.

Gough is coming back for a fifth. She had a great championship game against Mercyhurst with a goal and an assist.

Vaslet, Bedier and Garcia will be Jr's. Vaslet is tough to play against. Garcia held her own with Lobdell.

Janecke, Roberts, Stecker, Butze, Christian and Desa will be sophomores. Butze was all rookie in CHA.


The last I read there were 8 Syracuse players in the portal along with 7 from Maine.

PSU seems to have a nice recruiting class coming in, but after Correia and Mackay excelled this year, I am sure there is room for a couple of grad transfers.

Quinnipiac also got a lot of production out of their grad transfer Shay Maloney.

It's free to watch the archived game of that back and forth game with Quinnipiac. It's worth a watch if you missed it.
 
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ZedLeppelin said:
Some random "Day After" thoughts on the triple OT game vs Quinnipiac last night...

I don't think I've ever heard a name ("Quinnipiac") pronounced so many different ways from the same two announcers over the course of a hockey game. Good lord, they were stumped.
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And they never pronounced Quinnipiac correctly even once. Geez, really annoying. I turned the audio off. Somebody needs to tell those two bozos to watch this 30 second video if they are calling the next game vs Ohio State. There's no emphasis on the "pee" ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zzMxEyINP4

Great season by Penn State. I'm sure they will be back in the NCAAs soon.
 
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Yes on Whoop 87's observation. Eastwood from Syracuse should have been the guest announcer, her knowledge and insights add something to any broadcast. It really helps when the announcers actually either have the work ethic to do the research or have the requisite familiarity. It was evident that the announcers were not familiar with either team and women's hockey in my opinion. My favorite announcer is the guy from BU.
 
ARM said:
And that is fine if that's the game that they're presented. There are games where they don't call anything because there simply isn't anything to call. That's not what I saw last night. If after two periods at Ridder last night it had been 2 majors + 2 minors on Clarkson versus 2 minors on UMD, IMO, that's in the neighborhood of what the play deserved.
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I have two different takes on this. The first is my ideal universe, in which I agree with you. I prefer a more tightly called called game. I think interference is grossly undercalled. I prefer hockey that is de facto no-check, rather than merely de jure. This side of me also thinks that there should have been more penalties called, though I think calling at that standard would have led to more Clarkson penalties, too.

The part of me that has to compromise with the real world thinks that the officiating wasn't perfect, it was pretty balanced. None of the infractions committed by UMD in the first two periods rose to the level of the things Clarkson was called for. Given where the line is being drawn, I didn't think that UMD did anything in that span that was clearly a penalty by these standards.
 
whoop87 said:
And they never pronounced Quinnipiac correctly even once.
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When the play-by-play guy couldn't even pronounce Maloney correctly, I just figured he should have stuck to saying "the Bobcats". I think what bothered me even more than all the mispronunciations were the over-exaggerated calls where he switched to a voice like he was introducing a prize fighter before a bout.
 
You are right on Maloney being pronounced Malooney which is a rather common Irish name. I had to check the roster to see the spelling.
 
ARM said:
When the play-by-play guy couldn't even pronounce Maloney correctly, I just figured he should have stuck to saying "the Bobcats". I think what bothered me even more than all the mispronunciations were the over-exaggerated calls where he switched to a voice like he was introducing a prize fighter before a bout.
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But...but...they dumped the puck and WENT FOR A LIIIIIIIIIIINE CHAAAAAAAANGE!
 
ZedLeppelin said:
But...but...they dumped the puck and WENT FOR A LIIIIIIIIIIINE CHAAAAAAAANGE![/B
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:D

You can tell the announcers who watch very little hockey, because they get very excited about the fact that players are being substituted while the game continues. (sorry pgb, for dumbing down another thread)
 
ARM said:
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You can tell the announcers who watch very little hockey, because they get very excited about the fact that players are being substituted while the game continues. (sorry pgb, for dumbing down another thread)
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Very true...the Big10 announcers that did Penn State games this year were not good. The BC announcers that called the BC Penn State games knew more about the Penn State players, statistics, and history. It was obvious that they had spent some time doing research before the games, and also obvious they actually knew the sport well.
 
whoop87 said:
And they never pronounced Quinnipiac correctly even once. Geez, really annoying. I turned the audio off. Somebody needs to tell those two bozos to watch this 30 second video if they are calling the next game vs Ohio State. There's no emphasis on the "pee" ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zzMxEyINP4

Great season by Penn State. I'm sure they will be back in the NCAAs soon.
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I don't care if it's a streaming game or a broadcast game, if these people want to be broadcasters, then just do your due diligence. Spend 10 minutes before the game and look at the players' names and pronunciations. It's all in the players guides and that would be acting like you are a professional at the very least.
 
That's two out of three Rookies of the Year. I'm sure prospective transfers are looking at the stats that Mackay and Correia put up and hopefully want in.
 
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