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2021-2022 Schedules

Oswego started off the season a few times with the U18 USA team,great way to get the players jacked up for the season,would love to see it again..
 
Well they didnt do sh*t last year so it wouldn't surprise me.......

You do realize that is was not just the SUNYAC...ALL of NYS was shut down. We had to play game in Pa until things were lifted after the new year. On top of that, SEVERAL rinks remained closed causing a massive cluster trying to get practice ice, putting ice at a premium cost. On top of that, all the ridiculous COVID protocols (temp checks, tracking, no locker rooms, getting dressed outside in 10 degrees, 10 minute pre-entry, 15 minute post exit, no fans/no parents, no vendors, referee shortage, staff shortage to run rinks, funding to keep rinks open, I can go on). And even after that, you were not getting 18-24 year olds to live in a bubble. If one player tested positive, they would have been shut down. Schools were not willing to spend the $$ to put a team on the ice, just to get shut down. They don't have the budget like big DI schools do. On top of that we still live in a land of lawsuits. Mommy and Daddy would be so happy to go sue happy if their little boy or little girl got sick with COVID by playing hockey (even though we all know 99% of hockey cases never came from "the game" itself). Colleges didn't want to be responsible, exactly why most of them are requiring the vaccine to attend in September which I think will cause a major decline in enrollment.

Yes it sucked, but I can tell you this, as of our current state (being to our own largest youth hockey league meeting in NY, and our statewide league meeting) hockey will be a go all the way around. You will have some schools limiting fan participation on a school by school basis (at least here in NY) but hockey is here. We have begun an almost "normal" return, no masks, locker rooms open, fans in the stands, no temp checks, no more tracing. Though I will say scheduling my tournaments for next season, and paying for summer ice for my team, don't be surprised to see the cost of a game go up $$ to help soften the blow of taking a year off. We are seeing roughly a $25-$40 increase per hour in ice and $200-$300 more per tournament this year. Even USA Hockey is looking to eliminate the "free" hockey (no cost registrations) for the 8U and 6U levels to help increase their pocket books. But the biggest thing will be finding the help to cover games, practices ect. If its anything like it is now, some public rinks might not be able to open. No one wants to work. You should see the embarrassment at Six Flags Darien Lake right now. Half the park is closed because they cant get the help to run the park, but keep handing out that extra $800 a month to not work America. So if the SUNYAC doesn't run full speed ahead this year, I doubt it will have to do with the suit and ties deciding not to (unless we have another scaredemic outbreak). I know several teams are 100% full go for the season.
 
You do realize that is was not just the SUNYAC...ALL of NYS was shut down. We had to play game in Pa until things were lifted after the new year. On top of that, SEVERAL rinks remained closed causing a massive cluster trying to get practice ice, putting ice at a premium cost. On top of that, all the ridiculous COVID protocols (temp checks, tracking, no locker rooms, getting dressed outside in 10 degrees, 10 minute pre-entry, 15 minute post exit, no fans/no parents, no vendors, referee shortage, staff shortage to run rinks, funding to keep rinks open, I can go on). And even after that, you were not getting 18-24 year olds to live in a bubble. If one player tested positive, they would have been shut down. Schools were not willing to spend the $$ to put a team on the ice, just to get shut down. They don't have the budget like big DI schools do. On top of that we still live in a land of lawsuits. Mommy and Daddy would be so happy to go sue happy if their little boy or little girl got sick with COVID by playing hockey (even though we all know 99% of hockey cases never came from "the game" itself). Colleges didn't want to be responsible, exactly why most of them are requiring the vaccine to attend in September which I think will cause a major decline in enrollment.

Yes it sucked, but I can tell you this, as of our current state (being to our own largest youth hockey league meeting in NY, and our statewide league meeting) hockey will be a go all the way around. You will have some schools limiting fan participation on a school by school basis (at least here in NY) but hockey is here. We have begun an almost "normal" return, no masks, locker rooms open, fans in the stands, no temp checks, no more tracing. Though I will say scheduling my tournaments for next season, and paying for summer ice for my team, don't be surprised to see the cost of a game go up $$ to help soften the blow of taking a year off. We are seeing roughly a $25-$40 increase per hour in ice and $200-$300 more per tournament this year. Even USA Hockey is looking to eliminate the "free" hockey (no cost registrations) for the 8U and 6U levels to help increase their pocket books. But the biggest thing will be finding the help to cover games, practices ect. If its anything like it is now, some public rinks might not be able to open. No one wants to work. You should see the embarrassment at Six Flags Darien Lake right now. Half the park is closed because they cant get the help to run the park, but keep handing out that extra $800 a month to not work America. So if the SUNYAC doesn't run full speed ahead this year, I doubt it will have to do with the suit and ties deciding not to (unless we have another scaredemic outbreak). I know several teams are 100% full go for the season.

This is an extreme exaggeration. By Feb/March everything was basically back to normal including youth hockey. If the SUNYAC, NESCAC and whoever else flopped their season could re-do their decision they definitely would have.
 
This is an extreme exaggeration. By Feb/March everything was basically back to normal including youth hockey. If the SUNYAC, NESCAC and whoever else flopped their season could re-do their decision they definitely would have.

Umm no it wasn't. We had to fight just to get state qualifying games allowed in NON adjacent counties. That was a last second decision. On top of that SEVERAL rinks never opened and were not going to open for 2 months of D III college hockey. The restrictions didn't change in MOST rinks. Heck we still weren't allowed in some rinks at the start of the summer. Did you talk to the NYS committee to hear that it was a last minute decision to even host states, or under pressure because (other states were). There's zero exaggeration. 85% of the rinks we went to was zero spectator allowance including the NYS tournament, but yea thats back to normal. We were still changing in the parking lot in April and May for practices at the rinks.

Would they tho? With King Cuomo? Lol sure okay. NYS had one of the strictest sport protocols around because of his rules. Counties were scared to go against the King, still are. Meanwhile we are going to PA, CT and Mass to play with little to no restrictions during some of it. I would say April things started to become "normal", that's way to late to start a "season" in NYS. Ask the big wigs at the Utica Comets if they were happy there was a season. Nope. Putting a hockey team on the ice is one of the most expensive sports at the DIII level. Something a lot of struggling already SUNYAC schools wanted no part in risking. Be it from COVID or King Cuomo.
 
ahhhh Champs is back............I do realize it was not just the YAC,still doesn't make it right...........Hope for the best this season and we get a chance at Whiteout Weekend...Off to the OBX..
 
Well they didnt do sh*t last year so it wouldn't surprise me.......

I considered that. But that logic doesn't make complete sense. Outside of the UCHC, every eastern conference cancelled their season. So, if anyone is gun shy about picking up a SUNYAC opponent for a nonconference game, that applies to all the other teams except UCHC teams.

Besides, I'm not worried about this year's season. Even if the Delta variant gets out of control because not enough people wind up getting vaccinated, I think the approach will be more measured, and the season will happen. Maybe without fans (or at least unvaccinated fans), but it will happen.
 
Umm no it wasn't. We had to fight just to get state qualifying games allowed in NON adjacent counties. That was a last second decision. On top of that SEVERAL rinks never opened and were not going to open for 2 months of D III college hockey. The restrictions didn't change in MOST rinks. Heck we still weren't allowed in some rinks at the start of the summer. Did you talk to the NYS committee to hear that it was a last minute decision to even host states, or under pressure because (other states were). There's zero exaggeration. 85% of the rinks we went to was zero spectator allowance including the NYS tournament, but yea thats back to normal. We were still changing in the parking lot in April and May for practices at the rinks.

Would they tho? With King Cuomo? Lol sure okay. NYS had one of the strictest sport protocols around because of his rules. Counties were scared to go against the King, still are. Meanwhile we are going to PA, CT and Mass to play with little to no restrictions during some of it. I would say April things started to become "normal", that's way to late to start a "season" in NYS. Ask the big wigs at the Utica Comets if they were happy there was a season. Nope. Putting a hockey team on the ice is one of the most expensive sports at the DIII level. Something a lot of struggling already SUNYAC schools wanted no part in risking. Be it from COVID or King Cuomo.

Start of summer? Bill Grays, Northtown Center, Brewster Ice Arena - 3 of the largest rinks in the state - have been open full swing since Febuary. No temp checks, no limit on spectators, kids in locker rooms. I dont really care what your NYS committee said because clearly their “restrictions” meant very little and rinks were wide open.

The SUNY schools all have on campus rinks, no kidding the schools didnt want to open them. It was a disastrous year for colleges and universities financially, they were cutting expenses wherever they could. Still doesnt make sense why alot of the northeast schools shut it down though. You seem to forget Utica College was letting fans in by the end of the year.
 
Start of summer? Bill Grays, Northtown Center, Brewster Ice Arena - 3 of the largest rinks in the state - have been open full swing since Febuary. No temp checks, no limit on spectators, kids in locker rooms. I dont really care what your NYS committee said because clearly their “restrictions” meant very little and rinks were wide open.

Funny no fans in the stands at Northtown in April lol so must be their "restrictions" did mean something, but what would I know. Bill Grays having to shut down in April right before tryouts is another one lol sorry bud, no clue. And yes, the start of summer I was still not allowed into some rinks for my daughters summer team. Some started to open with restrictions (some none). Our own rink was still contact tracing, temp checks, no locker rooms until we closed the doors in April, so yes there were still some rinks. Poloncarz was having none of it, actually threatening criminal actions if you took your kids out of the county to play hockey. I believe it was Hamburg who also got fined for allowing a team to travel to play in a tournament.

The SUNY schools all have on campus rinks, no kidding the schools didnt want to open them. It was a disastrous year for colleges and universities financially, they were cutting expenses wherever they could. Still doesnt make sense why a lot of the northeast schools shut it down though. You seem to forget Utica College was letting fans in by the end of the year.

You just answered your own question and exactly what I was talking about. It was anywhere from $35 to $55 per test per player for us to travel to PA to play. Youre talking $1500 per game for testing alone, thats if they can find a lab willing to do it rapidly. Schools, especially already financially struggling schools, were not going to open up dorms, pay to have kids tested over and over again to play hockey with zero fans when they could save money and cancel a season.

Very well aware of Utica, my assistant coach is one of the rink managers there. Just because they were does not mean everyone else was. We are talking APRIL by that point. Every rink, every county, had different rules and protocols. I dealt with it first hand all winter/spring/summer.

So again no, there was no exaggeration.
 
Funny no fans in the stands at Northtown in April lol so must be their "restrictions" did mean something, but what would I know. Bill Grays having to shut down in April right before tryouts is another one lol sorry bud, no clue. And yes, the start of summer I was still not allowed into some rinks for my daughters summer team. Some started to open with restrictions (some none). Our own rink was still contact tracing, temp checks, no locker rooms until we closed the doors in April, so yes there were still some rinks. Poloncarz was having none of it, actually threatening criminal actions if you took your kids out of the county to play hockey. I believe it was Hamburg who also got fined for allowing a team to travel to play in a tournament.



You just answered your own question and exactly what I was talking about. It was anywhere from $35 to $55 per test per player for us to travel to PA to play. Youre talking $1500 per game for testing alone, thats if they can find a lab willing to do it rapidly. Schools, especially already financially struggling schools, were not going to open up dorms, pay to have kids tested over and over again to play hockey with zero fans when they could save money and cancel a season.

Very well aware of Utica, my assistant coach is one of the rink managers there. Just because they were does not mean everyone else was. We are talking APRIL by that point. Every rink, every county, had different rules and protocols. I dealt with it first hand all winter/spring/summer.

So again no, there was no exaggeration.

Crazy - I was in Northtown and Bill Grays in Feb and there were parents in the stands on all sheets, kids in locker rooms getting dressed at all sheets, nobody at the door taking temps. I must have been hallucinating then. Listen, nobody was playing by the book except, as it sounds, your team, which is fine.

Poloncarz did nothing - the Jr Sabres 16u/18u played in Rochester and Syracuse both in Feb, you can confirm that online. You are over selling it like it was a war zone trying to play games, it wasn't. From mid January on all AAA orgs were playing games in NY, PA, MA, CT every weekend.

Listen - Utica College isn't the most financially well-off school by any means in D3 hockey and they were able to pull it off.
 
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