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2021/2022 Minnesota Girls High School Hockey

Maple Grove leads Centennial/SLP 3-2 in the 3rd period. correction now 4-2 Maple Grove.

Edina Leads BSM 3-1 in the 3rd period as well.

Minnetonka leads Holy Family 2-1 also in the 3rd period. Update Holy Family just scored a PP goal with about 6 minutes left in the 3rd. Tied at 2.
 
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Edina/BSM goes final...4-1 win for Edina.

And we have bonus hockey with Minnetonka/HF tied at the end of regulation 2-2.
 
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pgb-ohio said:
Meaning the Gophers don't recruit, they select? (winking emoticon here)
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All kidding aside, OSU is getting 2 players, in particular, that I would have liked to see the Gophers get commitments from. Sloane Matthews from Wazata and Emma Peschel from Benilde-St Margaret's. OSU fans are going to like what they bring to the table.
 
Jungles is widely regarded as the best player in this year's senior class and is favored to win Miss Minnesota. Unfortunately she will be headed to Madison to play for the BADgers. Don't ask me why because I have no idea.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
All kidding aside, OSU is getting 2 players, in particular, that I would have liked to see the Gophers get commitments from. Sloane Matthews from Wazata and Emma Peschel from Benilde-St Margaret's. OSU fans are going to like what they bring to the table.
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Not kidding, at least a 50% chance one or both of them will be available after freshman year. Muzzy loves 5th year/grad student players and poaching players from other squads and then telling current kids they are not good enough and to hit the road.
 
I think Vivian Jungels was recruited as an eighth grader. One possible scenario is her family's anger at the program over Tella's playing time gave Vivian the opportunity to strike out on her own and kind of go her own way.
 
KTDC said:
I think Vivian Jungels was recruited as an eighth grader. One possible scenario is her family's anger at the program over Tella's playing time gave Vivian the opportunity to strike out on her own and kind of go her own way.
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Well most of us Gopher fans don't pay attention to the context and aren't very observant so there probably was nothing to see there with the sister. Oh yeah, I think that some of the Gopher coaching staff changed over recently but I just assumed that would have no affect on recruiting. Since we lost 2 of the top players in the state to the Sinners, those coaches must have gone over to the Sinners, right?
 
The AA championship game was absolutely terrific tonight between Minnetonka and Andover. Andover scores a goal in the last 2 minutes of the game to break a 4-4 tie and wins 5-4 Terrific pace to the game all night. Back and forth game with a lot of skill and despite the 9 goals scored, some great goaltending.
 
KTDC said:
I think Vivian Jungels was recruited as an eighth grader. One possible scenario is her family's anger at the program over Tella's playing time gave Vivian the opportunity to strike out on her own and kind of go her own way.
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In HS, Watts kind of player was Tella? Was she highly regarded out of HS?
 
Timothy A said:
In HS, Watts kind of player was Tella? Was she highly regarded out of HS?
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I think Tella was considered a good player, not elite. Vivian was always considered the jewel. My opinion is Frost's reputation was hurt among Minnesota hockey parents by taking both of the siblings. You know, he "favors" some parents over others. It hurt him anyway when Tella didn't earn playing time and the (poor) family got angry with him.

I tend to give Frost some leeway on this stuff. When you recruit so heavily in Minnesota, and these parents are seeing each other for years at the rinks as their kids are growing up, and they all know how great their darling daughter is, that is pretty fraught terrain...lol

My two cents... take it with a heavy dose of salt.
 
Agree about the fraught terrain, but he should own some of it. The sibling thing is a little weird (4 sets - Wethington, Lindsay and Hemp, in addition to Jungels), but one component of the Tella story is around early recruiting. He was the worst in college hockey about taking verbals from babies - looking at the most recent grades, all 5 of his original '22 class were 8th graders (I believe), and both of his original 2 '23s. That group were probably (at least among) the 7 best 8th grade players at the time, but they were all early calendar year birth month kids (other than Vivian - the rest were therefore AAA super stars with that tail-wind) and have been passed by classmates as that advantage sunsetted. The group has also been winnowed down to 4. A few of them had their lives disrupted by being committed at that age (behavior, love of the game, etc.). Their and their family's own some blame for that, for sure, but also partly on him. He also missed out on the emergence of some stronger players. He's a good guy, the Gophers are a very good team and strong program and will continue to be, and these Europeans he's gotten look legit, but he has earned some criticism for his recruiting. And the Jungels situation is a symptom.
 
PuckLover said:
Agree about the fraught terrain, but he should own some of it. The sibling thing is a little weird (4 sets - Wethington, Lindsay and Hemp, in addition to Jungels), but one component of the Tella story is around early recruiting. He was the worst in college hockey about taking verbals from babies - looking at the most recent grades, all 5 of his original '22 class were 8th graders (I believe), and both of his original 2 '23s. That group were probably (at least among) the 7 best 8th grade players at the time, but they were all early calendar year birth month kids (other than Vivian - the rest were therefore AAA super stars with that tail-wind) and have been passed by classmates as that advantage sunsetted. The group has also been winnowed down to 4. A few of them had their lives disrupted by being committed at that age (behavior, love of the game, etc.). Their and their family's own some blame for that, for sure, but also partly on him. He also missed out on the emergence of some stronger players. He's a good guy, the Gophers are a very good team and strong program and will continue to be, and these Europeans he's gotten look legit, but he has earned some criticism for his recruiting. And the Jungels situation is a symptom.
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I agree completely with your comment on Frost recruiting so many players so young and I’m not sorry to see it might be biting him a bit. I lost some respect for him when I learned from two different parents that the young players that committed to him the same year the NCAA changed the recruiting rules to prohibit the recruiting of such young players, we’re told to delay their personal commitment announcements until after the NCAA‘s gathering where they discussed the prohibition. Evidently Frost was there along with other coaches and it would’ve looked bad for him in Minnesota.
 
Timothy A said:
In HS, Watts kind of player was Tella? Was she highly regarded out of HS?
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Not highly regarded. Decent player but not the type of player the top teams in the WCHA would normally offer a scholarship to. If she does transfer to the sinners it would be a mistake as she would be in the same situation she was with Minnesota. She would be better off going someplace like St. Thomas.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Not highly regarded. Decent player but not the type of player the top teams in the WCHA would normally offer a scholarship to. If she does transfer to the sinners it would be a mistake as she would be in the same situation she was with Minnesota. She would be better off going someplace like St. Thomas.
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Not looking for her to transfer to UW, it was a question maybe of why did he recruit her in the first place.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Not highly regarded. Decent player but not the type of player the top teams in the WCHA would normally offer a scholarship to.
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Would you put her at maybe one notch below someone like Sadie Lindsay, who also has a more-talented, younger sister? Minnesota has always had a presence of similar players on its roster. I don't know if some of them over the years are misses, or if the thinking is that you can bring in several on partial scholarships, and somebody like Whit Graft or Abigail Boreen will wind up being a far better senior than she was as a freshman. A team obviously needs more than 18 players, for practice and depth even if most teams don't skate a 4th line, so you have to stretch those scholarships somehow.

I'm trying to think back over the years ... has there been an Edina HS player who has gone on to be great at the NCAA level? Some have had good careers, like Reber and Bowlby. But for as strong as they've been for a lot of years, I'm not remembering one who was a 1st-Team AA type of player. V. Jungels could be, but that might be tough at Wisconsin, particularly if she is playing second fiddle to Harvey.
 
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