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2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
To be fair, I have a floor (So what, so what, so what?) so I am, in fact, a corporate sellout.
I want the Poors to have a chance. I don't want to live like them or, worse, near them. I mean have you met them?
Yeah Yang's support doesnt come from the Kremlin...it comes from the offshoot of the Bernbots who think people like Kepler are Corpratist Sellouts
To be fair, I have a floor (So what, so what, so what?) so I am, in fact, a corporate sellout.
I want the Poors to have a chance. I don't want to live like them or, worse, near them. I mean have you met them?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
Because social media is filled with people who think we can afford everything and ignore the debt.
If we manage to save the planet and not kill half the world in the process, the debt is the next looming crisis. Maybe it’s not. But at some point, some insane idiot is going to do something stupid on the world stage and it will suddenly become an anchor.
Oh and I’m not just referring to the BernBros. I’m also referring to the MICurbators like Bolton.
Because social media is filled with people who think we can afford everything and ignore the debt.
If we manage to save the planet and not kill half the world in the process, the debt is the next looming crisis. Maybe it’s not. But at some point, some insane idiot is going to do something stupid on the world stage and it will suddenly become an anchor.
Oh and I’m not just referring to the BernBros. I’m also referring to the MICurbators like Bolton.
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trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
The debt is mostly just used as boogeyman to justify the idea that we can’t have nice things. In reality the US owns its own currency and can pay down the debt as necessary but so far it’s not nearly as big a problem as people make it out to be, the AA+ Moody’s rating being a good indicator of that. And in reality it’s pretty low on the list of problems or threats to this country’s well being.
The debt is mostly just used as boogeyman to justify the idea that we can’t have nice things. In reality the US owns its own currency and can pay down the debt as necessary but so far it’s not nearly as big a problem as people make it out to be, the AA+ Moody’s rating being a good indicator of that. And in reality it’s pretty low on the list of problems or threats to this country’s well being.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
Neither did Honecker.
I don't want to live like them or, worse, near them. I mean have you met them?
Neither did Honecker.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
Judging from the AfD, he was right too.
Judging from the AfD, he was right too.
How did Moody’s do leading up to the Great Recession? The debt is one of those things that isn’t a big problem until it is. What is going to kill us is the interest to service it and as we get further in debt and purchasers of the debt need a higher risk premium we will be in trouble. If the cost even goes up 100 basis points that would really hurt the budget.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
well there is the debt, and then there is the fact that we continue to run $1T+ deficits during what is supposedly a booming economy. That is a problem.
well there is the debt, and then there is the fact that we continue to run $1T+ deficits during what is supposedly a booming economy. That is a problem.
Spartanforlife4
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Yeah, that isn’t the Democrats fault. That’s the whole problem with Pete’s statement. If the Dems had given a giant tax break for no reason, then he’d have a point.
He didn’t say it was. His statement was simply that it isn’t something that traditionally democrats run on. The more important bit is that he’s a million percent right that we should be concerned and action needs to be taken. Him and I are close in age and the debt/deficit situation is going to be like a lead weight around the county’s neck for the rest of our lives.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
doesn't meat the next president should ignore the deficit or add to it
doesn't meat the next president should ignore the deficit or add to it
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
Well at least republicans will care about the deficit again once a dem is elected right
Well at least republicans will care about the deficit again once a dem is elected right
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
they'll care about the deficit as long as there is social security or medicare to take away from poor people!
they'll care about the deficit as long as there is social security or medicare to take away from poor people!
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto
They sure will. And when they get in power again they'll be making sure to pass another trillion dollar stock buyback tax cut.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stock Markets Up Record Numbers. For this year alone, Dow up 18.65%, S&P up 24.36%, Nasdaq Composite up 29.17%. “It’s the economy, stupid.”</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1202939897109192704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They sure will. And when they get in power again they'll be making sure to pass another trillion dollar stock buyback tax cut.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stock Markets Up Record Numbers. For this year alone, Dow up 18.65%, S&P up 24.36%, Nasdaq Composite up 29.17%. “It’s the economy, stupid.”</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1202939897109192704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Spartanforlife4
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The largest complaint about any Dem progressive program is that it will drive up the deficit. Yeah, sure, literally on its face, he’s not saying it’s the Democrats fault, but it’s a common GOP talking point that Dems just want to spend money for why we should never do anything that might help the common man.
The country going bankrupt sure as hell won’t help the common man. The deficits don’t matter crowd(and I’m not saying that is necessarily from the left) is as crazy as the supply side economics crowd.
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