What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Drew S. said:
I think he’s the real deal and would be a decent enough president. It would be nice if we didn’t have another dinosaur.
Click to expand...

Yeah. Obama had seriously amazing public speaking capabilities. I am not sure how Beto stacks up. But he doesn't bring a Mass or Cal politician which is a tough sell for a D. I see the inside track as Joe, Kamala and Beto if they run. I don't think Bernie or Warren get serious looks.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Drew S. said:
I think he’s the real deal and would be a decent enough president. It would be nice if we didn’t have another dinosaur.
Click to expand...

Take a look at the last ~40 years and let me know which party consistently elects dinosaurs, then remind me why exactly you support them when you keep saying your totally against pretty much everything they do.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

If Beto runs, I truly think he clears the field of all white people, especially men. Only ones who seriously challenge him are Harris, Booker, maybe a couple more women.

Charisma is key in politicians, and he rolled a natural 19 or 20. And while he might not also have Obama's intelligence, compared to Trump he's got it in spades.
 
Last edited:
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

unofan said:
If Beto runs, I truly think he clears the field of all white people, especially men. Only ones who seriously challenge him are Harris, Booker, maybe a couple more women.

Charisma is key in politicians, and he rolled a natural 19 or 20. And while he might not also have Obama's intelligence, compared to Trump he's got it in spades.
Click to expand...

If "having ties to Wall St" is disqualifying for progressives, I can't see how Booker gets any traction. I mean, wasn't that the reason why a couple of million Berniecrats voted FOR Trump last time around?

I don't see a lane to run in for Bernie or Lizzy Warren. They have identical positions as Kamala Harris only she's 1) younger, 2) non-white, and 3) from a state that contains the most delegates.

Agree that O'Rourke is a wild card. Right now the "liberal not from the coasts" track is occupied by Klobacher and Sherrod Brown. He'd definitely scramble their chances.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Yeah I dont think Booker is the guy...the issues with Big Pharma will kill him. Health Care is THE issue and if he is seen as in bed with Big Pharma that will be a major albatross.

I would have to think Harris is the internal frontrunner but who the heck knows. I think Beto makes a very intriguing VP pick if he cant make inroads for the top spot.
 
Handyman said:
Yeah I dont think Booker is the guy...the issues with Big Pharma will kill him. Health Care is THE issue and if he is seen as in bed with Big Pharma that will be a major albatross.

I would have to think Harris is the internal frontrunner but who the heck knows. I think Beto makes a very intriguing VP pick if he cant make inroads for the top spot.
Click to expand...

Does Kamala appeal to many people who aren’t into identity politics? She didn’t go to a very good college and her professional career isn’t super impressive. In a lot of ways she is kind of like Trump in that she will be VERY appealing to a certain group of voters and not very appealing to everyone else.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Drew S. said:
Does Kamala appeal to many people who aren’t into identity politics? She didn’t go to a very good college and her professional career isn’t super impressive. In a lot of ways she is kind of like Trump in that she will be VERY appealing to a certain group of voters and not very appealing to everyone else.
Click to expand...

What is your obsession with identity politics? Is it because the Republican Party is almost entirely white males? Is it because their wives vote the way they vote because they can't think for themselves?
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Drew S. said:
Does Kamala appeal to many people who aren’t into identity politics? She didn’t go to a very good college and her professional career isn’t super impressive. In a lot of ways she is kind of like Trump in that she will be VERY appealing to a certain group of voters and not very appealing to everyone else.
Click to expand...

The only people who care what college these people went to are the conservatives who whine about Liberal Elites.

And yeah she appeals to a certain group of voters...liberals.

Another bizarre post from the master.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Who the nominee is to me is going to be driven by the same thing that made Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and then Hillary Clinton the nominees, which is picking up the lions share of delegates in the South with a huge % of non-white voters but usually no candidate from the region. That, not some wicked scheme by evil genius DWS and the DNC :rolleyes: ;) is what cost Bernie Sanders and hope of winning. Its why Obama won a tight contest in 2008. O'Rourke has the potential to clean up in the Southwest from TX to AZ and NV with all of the Hispanic voters (although he will need to play nice with Harry Reid for NV). Harris as a black female might have a head start from NC to FL and over to LA and TN given that those are more influenced by black voters. If they both run it sets up an interesting dynamic in the usually decisive region and could end up making the rust belt states the kingmaker this time around.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

I'd like to see some combination of Harris and O'Rourke. O'Rourke is young, so if he were VP he'd be setup to run again

Bernie and Diamond Joe, your time has passed.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Drew S. said:
Does Kamala appeal to many people who aren’t into identity politics? She didn’t go to a very good college and her professional career isn’t super impressive. In a lot of ways she is kind of like Trump in that she will be VERY appealing to a certain group of voters and not very appealing to everyone else.
Click to expand...

Kamala's career is strong from a technical standpoint - and she would have the same level of appeal to 50% of the pop as Trump has with the other 40%. She runs laps around Trump in terms of smarts. Probably her #1 issue is that she's from CA and that's significant. Due to star power, Trump was not a NY candidate but a national one and that was his advantage.

unofan said:
If Beto runs, I truly think he clears the field of all white people, especially men. Only ones who seriously challenge him are Harris, Booker, maybe a couple more women.

Charisma is key in politicians, and he rolled a natural 19 or 20. And while he might not also have Obama's intelligence, compared to Trump he's got it in spades.
Click to expand...

Beto's charisma is very good but I don't know if its that impressive. There are many in normal life that can match him. He just destroys most politicians because those attracted to politics are typically hypermotivated ideologues which doesn't often come from those with charisma. Beto doesn't fit that profile - that may be what's special about him.

Booker is not electable.
 
Last edited:
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

Her failure to prosecute Steve Mnuchin, especially when you can tie that to how Obama handled the financial crisis, isn't ideal. Not sure how she's more electable than Booker.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top