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2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
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thirdtime's . . .
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Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
Fantasy (or nightmare) headline for some distant IIHF Worlds:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/sports/uswnt-bonuses-equal-pay.html
(If you read on you’ll find the rub in these performance deals: the coach.)
Fantasy (or nightmare) headline for some distant IIHF Worlds:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/sports/uswnt-bonuses-equal-pay.html
(If you read on you’ll find the rub in these performance deals: the coach.)
Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
The soccer gals made their bed and now have to sleep in it. We fans know it is coaches genes to tinker, adjust, abandon, adapt and generally mess with rosters, lineups, and schemes in any sport. That's what they're paid to do. Look at Frost's endless line combinations at MN this year! What if we paid NFL, MBL, NBA and NHL players on games won, that they had to have participated in to even get paid? There'd be a lot of locker room fights, maybe hit contracts taken out on coaches, "friendly fire" injuries to ones teammates in practices and games that are blocking your "advancement" and playing time. Wow, that would be interesting!!
The soccer gals made their bed and now have to sleep in it. We fans know it is coaches genes to tinker, adjust, abandon, adapt and generally mess with rosters, lineups, and schemes in any sport. That's what they're paid to do. Look at Frost's endless line combinations at MN this year! What if we paid NFL, MBL, NBA and NHL players on games won, that they had to have participated in to even get paid? There'd be a lot of locker room fights, maybe hit contracts taken out on coaches, "friendly fire" injuries to ones teammates in practices and games that are blocking your "advancement" and playing time. Wow, that would be interesting!!
Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
Despite winning 4-0 it was a pretty mediocre showing by the Americans this morning as they seemed to lack the cohesiveness and crisp passing that we saw in their previous four games. Credit the Japanese who never gave up and did a great job defensively, limiting the number of prime opportunities from in close. It says something when Maddie Rooney was named the U.S. Player of the Game even though she was called upon to make only 10 saves.
Separately does anyone know the status of Hannah Brandt? If she's injured they are doing a good job of keeping it a secret, not even referring to an "upper/lower body injury". Maybe it's something else?
Despite winning 4-0 it was a pretty mediocre showing by the Americans this morning as they seemed to lack the cohesiveness and crisp passing that we saw in their previous four games. Credit the Japanese who never gave up and did a great job defensively, limiting the number of prime opportunities from in close. It says something when Maddie Rooney was named the U.S. Player of the Game even though she was called upon to make only 10 saves.
Separately does anyone know the status of Hannah Brandt? If she's injured they are doing a good job of keeping it a secret, not even referring to an "upper/lower body injury". Maybe it's something else?
Blackbeard
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Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
Yes, the Thrilla in Manila.
Only saw the 3rd period but it was pressure packed. Judging by that period it was another tremendous game as their last game was just days ago.
Finland's 4th goal was an empty netter on a breakaway the full length of the ice with Spooner in pursuit trying to tie up the Finish skater all the way to the face off circles...it hit the post and went in.
Late in the 3rd the SOG were 66-18 for Canada but Finland had bagged 3 of them. On paper Szabados looks terrible...83% save percentage. (Did you watch the game? What type of goals?)
Never saw a reviewed goal take so long to review...must have been 10 -15 minutes. Extreme pressure on the ref. Tons of replays but it was next to impossible to see the puck.
Great imagery at the end when the Finish coach got down on the ice like he was going to do a push up or two but then kissed the ice.
A first for Finland in international tournaments and it happened on home ice! Looks good on them.
I heard from a Finish player years ago that girls/women playing hockey was frowned upon in Finland. That attitude probably just got jolted with a left hook and will continue to be for the next several days regardless of the outcome tomorrow.
And if they win tomorrow that attitude might be out for the count.
This is a tremendous Team Finland.
(Forgot: Saw Turnbull sitting in the stands with Poulin. Anyone know why Turnbull wasnt playing?)
Yes, the Thrilla in Manila.
Only saw the 3rd period but it was pressure packed. Judging by that period it was another tremendous game as their last game was just days ago.
Finland's 4th goal was an empty netter on a breakaway the full length of the ice with Spooner in pursuit trying to tie up the Finish skater all the way to the face off circles...it hit the post and went in.
Late in the 3rd the SOG were 66-18 for Canada but Finland had bagged 3 of them. On paper Szabados looks terrible...83% save percentage. (Did you watch the game? What type of goals?)
Never saw a reviewed goal take so long to review...must have been 10 -15 minutes. Extreme pressure on the ref. Tons of replays but it was next to impossible to see the puck.
Great imagery at the end when the Finish coach got down on the ice like he was going to do a push up or two but then kissed the ice.
A first for Finland in international tournaments and it happened on home ice! Looks good on them.
I heard from a Finish player years ago that girls/women playing hockey was frowned upon in Finland. That attitude probably just got jolted with a left hook and will continue to be for the next several days regardless of the outcome tomorrow.
And if they win tomorrow that attitude might be out for the count.
This is a tremendous Team Finland.
(Forgot: Saw Turnbull sitting in the stands with Poulin. Anyone know why Turnbull wasnt playing?)
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Hannah is listed on the 4th line for today's game on the Team USA site. Maybe (!??!) the announcers will have a comment or explanation of her absence. I haven't been too impressed with them so far. They finally got Kelly "Pannocks" name pronunced correctly, most of the time, but still struggle with Cameranesi. I know Canadian English is different, my sister married a Canadian, but the announcers dont seem to have trouble with Finnish or Russian names, or maybe I just can't tell.
Hannah is listed on the 4th line for today's game on the Team USA site. Maybe (!??!) the announcers will have a comment or explanation of her absence. I haven't been too impressed with them so far. They finally got Kelly "Pannocks" name pronunced correctly, most of the time, but still struggle with Cameranesi. I know Canadian English is different, my sister married a Canadian, but the announcers dont seem to have trouble with Finnish or Russian names, or maybe I just can't tell.
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Blackbeard
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Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
Who were you listening to? Rod Black and Cheryl Pounder haven't had any trouble with those names on the TSN coverage.
Who were you listening to? Rod Black and Cheryl Pounder haven't had any trouble with those names on the TSN coverage.
Yes Black definitely called Pannek “Pawn-ick” for a little while. I always thought it was Pronounced like the word panic but maybe I’m wrong. There was another name he was messing up too, I just forget who it was. I do feel like he’s getting better.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
They both have trouble with Cameranesi. It's almost like somebody pronounced it for them and and said it is simple, like you say "Camera" and then "knee-Z", and Black pronounces it like it is two separate words. Pounder doesn't even come that close, as she somehow manages to move the "n" into the "Camera" part some of the time. And Pan is often Pon for both of them.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
You're right, but it is more "neck" than "nick" in the second syllable.
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Turnbull was checked head first into the boards in the 1st period on a hit that should have drawn a major penalty but wasn't called at all. Down for a minute or so until they took her to the locker room. I'm assuming possible concussion and that she won't play in the bronze medal game. The former Badger has been one of Canada's best players in the tournament and they certainly missed her on the ice.
Hilary Knight, Turnbull's teammate at Wisconsin, gives the US a lead in the 1st period.
Turnbull was checked head first into the boards in the 1st period on a hit that should have drawn a major penalty but wasn't called at all. Down for a minute or so until they took her to the locker room. I'm assuming possible concussion and that she won't play in the bronze medal game. The former Badger has been one of Canada's best players in the tournament and they certainly missed her on the ice.
Hilary Knight, Turnbull's teammate at Wisconsin, gives the US a lead in the 1st period.
Blackbeard
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Puckdrop14
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Shots were 45-19 and Szabados was not particularly sharp. The winning goal is one that she would want back.
Blackbeard
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Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
Some pretty interesting comments just now from the Canadian coach (being interviewed by Tessa Bonhomme) about the program's now having the opportunity to see in the dressing room who can handle the pressure in these tournaments and the Olympics and who can't. He seemed to be implying that today's result vs Finland showed that some can't, indicating that with a little adversity today the Canadian players tossed team play and their game plan out the window.
One loss...to a great team, and they are talking this way. His comments would definitely lead one to believe that Canada didn't play well in the last two periods. I saw the 3rd period and thought desperation was rearing it's ugly head with several one player offensive efforts. Don't know what the 2nd period looked like.
But I strongly suspect there would have been none of this talk, at least publicly, if they had won.
Constantly striving for excellence and improvement is admirable but sometimes you are left wondering if it goes too far. At the same time I understand that if you take your foot off the pedal, ever, for whatever reason, you potentially (and usually do) start going backwards. A conundrum for high need achievers, in any endeavour, which sometimes seems ridiculous and maybe even somewhat inhumane.
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And thanks to the two posters for the info on the first two periods of the Canada vs Finland game that the tech gods saw fit that I should not see.
Some pretty interesting comments just now from the Canadian coach (being interviewed by Tessa Bonhomme) about the program's now having the opportunity to see in the dressing room who can handle the pressure in these tournaments and the Olympics and who can't. He seemed to be implying that today's result vs Finland showed that some can't, indicating that with a little adversity today the Canadian players tossed team play and their game plan out the window.
One loss...to a great team, and they are talking this way. His comments would definitely lead one to believe that Canada didn't play well in the last two periods. I saw the 3rd period and thought desperation was rearing it's ugly head with several one player offensive efforts. Don't know what the 2nd period looked like.
But I strongly suspect there would have been none of this talk, at least publicly, if they had won.
Constantly striving for excellence and improvement is admirable but sometimes you are left wondering if it goes too far. At the same time I understand that if you take your foot off the pedal, ever, for whatever reason, you potentially (and usually do) start going backwards. A conundrum for high need achievers, in any endeavour, which sometimes seems ridiculous and maybe even somewhat inhumane.
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And thanks to the two posters for the info on the first two periods of the Canada vs Finland game that the tech gods saw fit that I should not see.
Still Eeyore
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Re: 2019 IIHF Women's Worlds
The gap between the top three and everyone else seems to be getting larger.
The U.S. outscored teams other than Canada and Finland 30-0 in four games.
Canada outscored teams other than the U.S. and Finalnd 16-1 in three games, with the bronze medal game against Russia still to come.
Finland outscored teams other than the U.S. and Canada 13-3 in three games.
Despite pulling the upset today, Finland seems to still be the third best team, losing to the U.S. and Canada by a combined 12-3 in group play. But that gap seems seems smaller than that between Finland and whoever is the fourth best team.
The gap between the top three and everyone else seems to be getting larger.
The U.S. outscored teams other than Canada and Finland 30-0 in four games.
Canada outscored teams other than the U.S. and Finalnd 16-1 in three games, with the bronze medal game against Russia still to come.
Finland outscored teams other than the U.S. and Canada 13-3 in three games.
Despite pulling the upset today, Finland seems to still be the third best team, losing to the U.S. and Canada by a combined 12-3 in group play. But that gap seems seems smaller than that between Finland and whoever is the fourth best team.
Maybe it’s just me but I’m not a fan of Pearn at all. I find it hard to believe what his players needed in that moment was to be thrown under a bus.
Great job by the Finns. Congrats and good luck.