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2019 Frozen Four

But I do know one thing. I am very happy Kassidy Sauve did not win a national championship.

Wow. Why? What did she do to you?

On another note. I thought the WCHA playoffs 2 weeks ago were more intense and competitive than the games today. OSU gave Wisconsin a tougher game than Clarkson.

Pankowski great again. Gable? Not so much. Points a lot harder to come by in WCHA when they don’t have Brown and others to rack up the points against.
 
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I saw that weird goal live and them 4 replays of it and I still don't know what happened (no slo-mo). I think it was Cogan, who shot the puck in front from behind the net but did it hit someone and go in? I think Pankowski was credited with it but it didn't look like she did anything with the pass. Anyone really know?

Cogan got the goal. Her pass from behind the net hit a Clarkson skate and went in.

Nice arena and the crowd got healthier.

The ice was St Charles level bad, and the crowd wasn't much bigger for the second game than the first.
 
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During the first period, the Clarkson band forced me to reconsider my long held opinion that Cornell has the most annoying fans in hockey. In the second, they graduated from annoying to wildly inappropriate sexualized chants. They were offensive. I'm glad Bucky buried them, and I hope they have a long, sad bus ride home.
 
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Clarkson hung in for a while but Wisconsin's depth just wore them down.
I agree this was the story of the game. It's hard enough to beat the Badgers with three or even four talented forward lines, but with only one it becomes extremely unlikely.

In Sunday's final you should see that the Gophers match up very well up front, and with their added 4th line, if utilized, might even develop an edge with their forwards late in the game. But Wisconsin is so tough defensively, actually putting the puck in the net enough times to win the game is always a huge challenge. Their strength on the back end makes it imperative that the Gophers take advantage of their "golden" opportunities.
 
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Cogan got the goal. Her pass from behind the net hit a Clarkson skate and went in.


From watching replays (on the web, and pausing, starting, pausing, etc) the best I can tell is Cogan's pass hit something - may have been Sauve's stick - then went up and hit the Clarkson defender Shelton on the arm/shoulder, and then went into the net.
 
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In Sunday's final you should see that the Gophers match up very well up front, and with their added 4th line, if utilized, might even develop an edge with their forwards late in the game. But Wisconsin is so tough defensively, actually putting the puck in the net enough times to win the game is always a huge challenge. Their strength on the back end makes it imperative that the Gophers take advantage of their "golden" opportunities.

I don't recall the 4th line playing much in the wwcha final for UW. He didn't even trot them out against Cuse, and obviously not tonight. That could be a factor, but UW has last change, so if Frosty trots the 4th line out after a whistle, will MJ counter with his 4th or the 1/1A lines for the mismatch? I think with the TV timeouts you'd be a little nuts to send the 4th out here. Did Frosty play the 4th today at all?
 
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Why dress only 5?

They only had 6 defense on the roster and one of the girls is not playing. I think she is injured but I am not sure. What happened in this game is what I was afraid of. Playing Wisconsin with only one scoring line and basically only 3 lines and 5 defense is and was tough skating. I am proud of all that this team accomplished despite the ending. Good luck against the Gophers.
 
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They only had 6 defense on the roster and one of the girls is not playing. I think she is injured but I am not sure. What happened in this game is what I was afraid of. Playing Wisconsin with only one scoring line and basically only 3 lines and 5 defense is and was tough skating. I am proud of all that this team accomplished despite the ending. Good luck against the Gophers.

Only 6 D on the roster is interesting. Obviously a little more depth there may have paid dividends, though playing a 7th D in a game like tonight maybe isn't an option like UW playing the 4th line wasn't going to happen unless it was 4-0 at the end of 2.
 
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I don't recall the 4th line playing much in the wwcha final for UW. He didn't even trot them out against Cuse, and obviously not tonight. That could be a factor, but UW has last change, so if Frosty trots the 4th line out after a whistle, will MJ counter with his 4th or the 1/1A lines for the mismatch? I think with the TV timeouts you'd be a little nuts to send the 4th out here. Did Frosty play the 4th today at all?

Yes, he did. The 4th line has gotten semi regular shifts all year. I can't think of a single game where they just disappeared. And Oden gets regular penalty killing and power play shifts.
 
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From watching replays (on the web, and pausing, starting, pausing, etc) the best I can tell is Cogan's pass hit something - may have been Sauve's stick - then went up and hit the Clarkson defender Shelton on the arm/shoulder, and then went into the net.
With slow motion, I saw it just like you. Definitely the goalie's stick, then Shelton's shoulder, and just inside the post. Between that and the two earlier posts for Clarkson, it was Bucky's night. They were the better team all night, but they also got those bounce to make the final score slightly more slanted than it was.
 
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With slow motion, I saw it just like you. Definitely the goalie's stick, then Shelton's shoulder, and just inside the post. Between that and the two earlier posts for Clarkson, it was Bucky's night. They were the better team all night, but they also got those bounce to make the final score slightly more slanted than it was.

MJ loves to talk about puck luck, they got some there.

Why was the ice so bad? Too warm outside? The benches on both sides of the rink is SO yuck. What real hockey rink has that?

I think the NC$$ should do what they do for baseball and just have the FF at the same location every year....Ridder. You know you will have great ice, modern locker rooms, big city amenities, and at least one of MN or UW there every year, so they will get butts in the seats. Eastern team don't attend well, that is a fact, so why shoot yourself in the foot? Would the place have been full if one of the matchups was BU/BC last night? The next 3 years are Agganis (BU or BC?), Erie Insurance Arena (guessing Mercyhurst? 8.5 hr drive from WI) and Pegula (10.5 hrs). I guess I won't be attending the frozen 4 anytime soon the nc$$ isn't interested in getting butts in the seats. At least the B7 has the rights for 1 more year, so it gets on cable.
 
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MJ loves to talk about puck luck, they got some there.

Why was the ice so bad? Too warm outside? The benches on both sides of the rink is SO yuck. What real hockey rink has that?

I think the NC$$ should do what they do for baseball and just have the FF at the same location every year....Ridder. You know you will have great ice, modern locker rooms, big city amenities, and at least one of MN or UW there every year, so they will get butts in the seats. Eastern team don't attend well, that is a fact, so why shoot yourself in the foot? Would the place have been full if one of the matchups was BU/BC last night? The next 3 years are Agganis (BU or BC?), Erie Insurance Arena (guessing Mercyhurst? 8.5 hr drive from WI) and Pegula (10.5 hrs). I guess I won't be attending the frozen 4 anytime soon the nc$$ isn't interested in getting butts in the seats. At least the B7 has the rights for 1 more year, so it gets on cable.

Agganis is BU (but the girls play at Walter Brown!)
 
MJ loves to talk about puck luck, they got some there.

Why was the ice so bad? Too warm outside? The benches on both sides of the rink is SO yuck. What real hockey rink has that?

I think the NC$$ should do what they do for baseball and just have the FF at the same location every year....Ridder. You know you will have great ice, modern locker rooms, big city amenities, and at least one of MN or UW there every year, so they will get butts in the seats. Eastern team don't attend well, that is a fact, so why shoot yourself in the foot? Would the place have been full if one of the matchups was BU/BC last night? The next 3 years are Agganis (BU or BC?), Erie Insurance Arena (guessing Mercyhurst? 8.5 hr drive from WI) and Pegula (10.5 hrs). I guess I won't be attending the frozen 4 anytime soon the nc$$ isn't interested in getting butts in the seats. At least the B7 has the rights for 1 more year, so it gets on cable.

Ugh. I am seeing this argument so much. Ridiculous that only Minnesota should host the Frozen Four. Just incredibly elitist. Minnesota is already so spoiled with all they get to host... an NCAA quarter final and 2 NW games just last week.

Any city that applies, has a rink that meets the specs, should be considered. If you look at the stats for last night’s game it says 3200 people attended. Maybe that’s tickets sold, and not attended. Either way not a bad number.
 
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