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I like how you equate hell with playing for the Lions (not necessarily undeserved mind you).
Didn't the Lions do this with Barry Sanders too? Any other franchise that does that with their all-time greats?
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2018 Detroit Lions: There Is Not Enough Fireball In The Country.
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I like how you equate hell with playing for the Lions (not necessarily undeserved mind you).
Didn't the Lions do this with Barry Sanders too? Any other franchise that does that with their all-time greats?
Hammer
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Re: 2018 Detroit Lions: There Is Not Enough Fireball In The Country.
The Lions didn't "do" anything with Barry or Calvin. All they did was enforce their rights in the contracts. Now, if the Lions had cut either of them, then the Lions can go pound sand in both cases.
Let's turn this around. What would stop any player from getting a big signing bonus up front, and then two years later say "I'm done. I don't want to play anymore, I'm keeping the money. Buh-bye!" These signing bonuses would dry up in a hurry. The players do NOT want that.
In the NFL, most salaries are not guaranteed. That's the way the CBA has been negotiated forever. However, signing bonuses are a way to get players guaranteed money up front, that the team can allocate over the length of the contract for cap purposes. If you sign a 5-year deal, the Lions can spread that bonus over the 5 year life of the contract. But it is also understood (and written into the contract) that bonus is for 5 years of performance. If you walk away after year 3, you owe the franchise for those two years that you decided not to play. If the franchise cuts you, well, they breached the contract, not the player, so the player gets to keep the money. However, any unallocated bonus money counts against the cap when the player ceases to play for that team, whether it be retirement or release by the franchise.
The Lions didn't "do" anything with Barry or Calvin. All they did was enforce their rights in the contracts. Now, if the Lions had cut either of them, then the Lions can go pound sand in both cases.
Let's turn this around. What would stop any player from getting a big signing bonus up front, and then two years later say "I'm done. I don't want to play anymore, I'm keeping the money. Buh-bye!" These signing bonuses would dry up in a hurry. The players do NOT want that.
In the NFL, most salaries are not guaranteed. That's the way the CBA has been negotiated forever. However, signing bonuses are a way to get players guaranteed money up front, that the team can allocate over the length of the contract for cap purposes. If you sign a 5-year deal, the Lions can spread that bonus over the 5 year life of the contract. But it is also understood (and written into the contract) that bonus is for 5 years of performance. If you walk away after year 3, you owe the franchise for those two years that you decided not to play. If the franchise cuts you, well, they breached the contract, not the player, so the player gets to keep the money. However, any unallocated bonus money counts against the cap when the player ceases to play for that team, whether it be retirement or release by the franchise.
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Hammer
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Re: 2018 Detroit Lions: There Is Not Enough Fireball In The Country.
In most cases, I believe the aging star is cut by the team, or in some cases, an injury settlement is reached.
And Barry quit on the eve of training camp. He ****ed the Lions in the *** in that regard.
In most cases, I believe the aging star is cut by the team, or in some cases, an injury settlement is reached.
And Barry quit on the eve of training camp. He ****ed the Lions in the *** in that regard.
Fighting Sioux 23
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FWIW, our office used to sublet office space to Barry Sanders' agent, so I got to hear some very interesting stories re the Lions, Sanders' retirement, and how the two (Sanders and the Lions) were finally able to somewhat repair their relationship. From what I was told (coming from an agent mind you), is that the Lions are somewhat unique in how they handled Barry's situation (and from what it looks like, Johnson's situation).
They also represented Jerome Bettis, who I got to meet, which has nothing really to do with this, other than he was a very nice guy.
MissThundercat
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Re: 2018 Detroit Lions: There Is Not Enough Fireball In The Country.
Imagine if Barry had a decent offensive line and a good QB.
https://deadspin.com/barry-sanders-was-the-coolest-football-player-who-ever-1836412234
Imagine if Barry had a decent offensive line and a good QB.
https://deadspin.com/barry-sanders-was-the-coolest-football-player-who-ever-1836412234
MissThundercat
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Re: 2018 Detroit Lions: There Is Not Enough Fireball In The Country.
Prediction for this year:
5-11, with a victory over the Packers and one over a way better team.
Prediction for this year:
5-11, with a victory over the Packers and one over a way better team.