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2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

2018-19 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule

29 NCHC Games (5-15-2)
14-15 Big10 Games (7-4-1)
8 Hockey East Games (4-0-0)
7 Atlantic Hockey Games (3-2-0)
4-5 ECAC Games (0-0-0)
4-5 Independent Games (0-4-0)
0-1 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
9 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
TOTAL: 19-25-3

ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-6-0)
-at Miami (2) L 1-5, L 0-4
-at Colorado College L 0-1
-at Denver L 0-6
-Arizona State (2) L 1-2, L 1-5
-vs Vermont, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT
-vs Northeastern, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT

ALASKA (0-5-1)
-at Arizona State (2) L 0-3, L 0-5
-St. Cloud State (2) L 2-3, L 2-6
-at Denver (2) L 1-4, T 3-3

ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (1-1-0)
-Colorado College (2) L 2-10, W 4-3
-at North Dakota (2)
-at Nebraska-Omaha (2)

BEMIDJI STATE (1-0-1)
-Lakehead (EXH) W 5-1
-North Dakota W 2-1
-at North Dakota T 1-1
-Merrimack (2)
-at St. Cloud State (2)
-at Air Force (2)

BOWLING GREEN (5-1-1)
-at Mercyhurst W 8-2
-at Western Michigan W 6-2
-at Robert Morris L 2-3
-Robert Morris W 6-0
-Western Michigan W 4-1
-at Ohio State W 8-2
-Ohio State T 2-2
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-Windsor (EXH)

FERRIS STATE (2-4-0)
-US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 3-1
-Lethbridge (EXH) W 5-2
-Western Michigan L 3-4
-at Western Michigan L 0-5
-Mercyhurst (2) W 5-2, L 1-3
-at Michigan State L 3-5
-Michigan State W 4-1

LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (3-1-0)
-at Merrimack (2) W 5-4, W 1-0
-Ni****ing (EXH-2) W 3-1, W 4-0
-Michigan (2) W 5-2, L 3-5
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-vs. Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Michigan Tech/Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MICHIGAN TECH (1-3-0)
-Minnesota-Duluth (2) L 1-2, L 2-5
-at Wisconsin (2) W 6-2, L 2-6
-at Clarkson (2)
-vs. Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Lake Superior State/Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MINNESOTA STATE (5-1-0)
-Mount Royal (EXH) W 7-3
-Boston University (2) W 4-3, W 5-3
-at North Dakota (2) W 7-4, L 3-4
-at Minnesota W 5-1
-Minnesota W 2-1
-vs. Minnesota-Duluth, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ
-vs. Arizona State/Clarkson, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ

NORTHERN MICHIGAN (1-3-0)
-at Michigan State (2) L 2-4, W 4-3
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 1-4, L 0-5
-Cornell (2)
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Bale said:
...The league can't throw away their natural rivalries for short-term gain...
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Agreed. That's kind of like establishing a new conference and inviting teams based on recent (or short-term) success. I'll try not to mention any schools in Kalamazoo or anything, but there's a team I have in mind.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

When is Ferris going to build a D1 arena and stop using the high school **** box they play in now?
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Ferris plays well in that rink and they only drew 1619 tonight. When I bought my tickets for tomorrow night, the guy said it is a "premium" game and it was a couple bucks more. We will see if the attendance is higher.

For them to consider Tech to be a premium draw, but only get 1600 on Friday night, how big would you build the new arena? Seems to me it's a waste of money if they can't fill the 2400 seats they have now.

I'd say, until you consistently sell out at 2400, keep doing what you're doing and make visiting teams adjust to the playing conditions. It's a good home rink advantage IMHO.

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Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

MTUHuskies said:
Ferris plays well in that rink and they only drew 1619 tonight. When I bought my tickets for tomorrow night, the guy said it is a "premium" game and it was a couple bucks more. We will see if the attendance is higher.

For them to consider Tech to be a premium draw, but only get 1600 on Friday night, how big would you build the new arena? Seems to me it's a waste of money if they can't fill the 2400 seats they have now.

I'd say, until you consistently sell out at 2400, keep doing what you're doing and make visiting teams adjust to the playing conditions. It's a good home rink advantage IMHO.

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If you can't fill a high school arena....you probably don't belong in D1.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

bigblue_dl said:
When is Ferris going to build a D1 arena and stop using the high school **** box they play in now?
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When they get someone who knows how to market the program in a town slightly smaller than the combined population of Houghton and Hancock, and at a school twice the size of MTU.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
When they get someone who knows how to market the program in a town slightly smaller than the combined population of Houghton and Hancock, and at a school twice the size of MTU.
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That place should be jammed every night!. But I get what you're saying. BTw the LSSU game last night was very exciting. Both Lake State and Alaska played well.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Remember last year when BC won their league but didn't make it in because of a dismal out of conference record? I'm looking at you NMU!
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

manurespreader said:
Remember last year when BC won their league but didn't make it in because of a dismal out of conference record? I'm looking at you NMU!
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Yea, Non-con kinda sucks this season :mad:

SCSU is a Top Tier team... Cornell should make the tourney... Notre Dame is Top as well.... The loss to Sparty is gonna sting....

To have NCAA hopes, we're gonna have to be immaculate with our WCHA schedule.... We simply can't lose more than 1 or maybe 2 games to anyone not named Mankato or BGSU...
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

RaceBoarder said:
To have NCAA hopes, we're gonna have to be immaculate with our WCHA schedule.... We simply can't lose more than 1 or maybe 2 games to anyone not named Mankato or BGSU...
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I haven't run the numbers, but I think that's probably true of any year for anyone in our league seeking to make it that isn't the AQ.

GFM
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

gfmorris said:
I haven't run the numbers, but I think that's probably true of any year for anyone in our league seeking to make it that isn't the AQ.

GFM
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50% NC and 75% in conference should do it as long as the league is decent overall...thats the formula for the WCHA.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

2018-19 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule

29 NCHC Games (5-15-2)
15-16 Big10 Games (7-4-1)
8 Hockey East Games (5-1-0)
7 Atlantic Hockey Games (3-2-0)
4-5 ECAC Games (0-2-0)
4-5 Independent Games (0-4-0)
0-1 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
9 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
TOTAL: 20-28-3

ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-6-0)
-at Miami (2) L 1-5, L 0-4
-at Colorado College L 0-1
-at Denver L 0-6
-Arizona State (2) L 1-2, L 1-5
-vs Vermont, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT
-vs Northeastern, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT

ALASKA (0-5-1)
-at Arizona State (2) L 0-3, L 0-5
-St. Cloud State (2) L 2-3, L 2-6
-at Denver (2) L 1-4, T 3-3

ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (1-1-0)
-Colorado College (2) L 2-10, W 4-3
-at North Dakota (2)
-at Nebraska-Omaha (2)

BEMIDJI STATE (2-1-1)
-Lakehead (EXH) W 5-1
-North Dakota W 2-1
-at North Dakota T 1-1
-Merrimack (2) W 8-3, L 0-1
-at St. Cloud State (2)
-at Air Force (2)

BOWLING GREEN (5-1-1)
-at Mercyhurst W 8-2
-at Western Michigan W 6-2
-at Robert Morris L 2-3
-Robert Morris W 6-0
-Western Michigan W 4-1
-at Ohio State W 8-2
-Ohio State T 2-2
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-Windsor (EXH)

FERRIS STATE (2-4-0)
-US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 3-1
-Lethbridge (EXH) W 5-2
-Western Michigan L 3-4
-at Western Michigan L 0-5
-Mercyhurst (2) W 5-2, L 1-3
-at Michigan State L 3-5
-Michigan State W 4-1

LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (3-1-0)
-at Merrimack (2) W 5-4, W 1-0
-Ni****ing (EXH-2) W 3-1, W 4-0
-Michigan (2) W 5-2, L 3-5
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-vs. Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Michigan Tech/Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MICHIGAN TECH (1-3-0)
-Minnesota-Duluth (2) L 1-2, L 2-5
-at Wisconsin (2) W 6-2, L 2-6
-at Clarkson (2)
-vs. Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Lake Superior State/Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MINNESOTA STATE (5-1-0)
-Mount Royal (EXH) W 7-3
-Boston University (2) W 4-3, W 5-3
-at North Dakota (2) W 7-4, L 3-4
-at Minnesota W 5-1
-Minnesota W 2-1
-vs. Minnesota-Duluth, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ
-vs. Arizona State/Clarkson, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ

NORTHERN MICHIGAN (1-5-0)
-at Michigan State (2) L 2-4, W 4-3
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 1-4, L 0-5
-Cornell (2) L 1-3, L 2-3
-at Notre Dame
 
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Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

NMU has a single Non-conference game against Notre Dame remaining.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

29 NCHC Games (5-17-2)
15-16 Big10 Games (7-4-1)
8 Hockey East Games (5-1-0)
7 Atlantic Hockey Games (3-2-0)
4-5 ECAC Games (0-4-0)
4-5 Independent Games (0-4-0)
0-1 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
9 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
TOTAL: 20-32-3 0.385

ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-6-0)
-at Miami (2) L 1-5, L 0-4
-at Colorado College L 0-1
-at Denver L 0-6
-Arizona State (2) L 1-2, L 1-5
-vs Vermont, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT
-vs Northeastern, TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT

ALASKA (0-5-1)
-at Arizona State (2) L 0-3, L 0-5
-St. Cloud State (2) L 2-3, L 2-6
-at Denver (2) L 1-4, T 3-3

ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (1-1-0)
-Colorado College (2) L 2-10, W 4-3
-at North Dakota (2)
-at Nebraska-Omaha (2)

BEMIDJI STATE (2-3-1)
-Lakehead (EXH) W 5-1
-North Dakota W 2-1
-at North Dakota T 1-1
-Merrimack (2) W 8-3, L 0-1
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 0-2, L 4-7
-at Air Force (2)

BOWLING GREEN (5-1-1)
-at Mercyhurst W 8-2
-at Western Michigan W 6-2
-at Robert Morris L 2-3
-Robert Morris W 6-0
-Western Michigan W 4-1
-at Ohio State W 8-2
-Ohio State T 2-2
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-Windsor (EXH)

FERRIS STATE (2-4-0)
-US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 3-1
-Lethbridge (EXH) W 5-2
-Western Michigan L 3-4
-at Western Michigan L 0-5
-Mercyhurst (2) W 5-2, L 1-3
-at Michigan State L 3-5
-Michigan State W 4-1

LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (3-1-0)
-at Merrimack (2) W 5-4, W 1-0
-Ni****ing (EXH-2) W 3-1, W 4-0
-Michigan (2) W 5-2, L 3-5
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-vs. Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Michigan Tech/Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MICHIGAN TECH (1-5-0)
-Minnesota-Duluth (2) L 1-2, L 2-5
-at Wisconsin (2) W 6-2, L 2-6
-at Clarkson (2) L 1-3, L 1-3
-vs. Michigan, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI
-vs. Lake Superior State/Michigan State, Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI

MINNESOTA STATE (5-1-0)
-Mount Royal (EXH) W 7-3
-Boston University (2) W 4-3, W 5-3
-at North Dakota (2) W 7-4, L 3-4
-at Minnesota W 5-1
-Minnesota W 2-1
-vs. Minnesota-Duluth, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ
-vs. Arizona State/Clarkson, Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ

NORTHERN MICHIGAN (1-5-0)
-at Michigan State (2) L 2-4, W 4-3
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 1-4, L 0-5
-Cornell (2) L 1-3, L 2-3
-at Notre Dame
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Michigan Tech, 1-5, yep that sadly sounds about right.
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Yep,
And could easily be 1-7 by new years. Not what we thought of at the beginning of the year. I don't see Tech winning the WCHA again, I don't see more than two bids and honestly, that's iffy too.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

manurespreader said:
Yep,
And could easily be 1-7 by new years. Not what we thought of at the beginning of the year. I don't see Tech winning the WCHA again, I don't see more than two bids and honestly, that's iffy too.
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Well if LSSU keeps it up and wins the GLI, you should have 3 teams that are in decent shape to make runs at at large bids with BGSU, MSUM, and LSSU. If one of those 3 doesn't win the tournament...who knows.
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Here is a pairwise question. lets say you are UNO, and you split a series with a team such as ASU. who wins the comparison? do you simply split it, or does one team win based on winning games in the other rink?
 
Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

manurespreader said:
Here is a pairwise question. lets say you are UNO, and you split a series with a team such as ASU. who wins the comparison? do you simply split it, or does one team win based on winning games in the other rink?
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head to head is just wins straight up. There are 3 categories that determine PWR.
RPI (1 point)
record vs Common Opponents (1 point)
H2H (1 point for each win)

If UNO has the edge in RPI and ASU has the edge in CO and they split the series 1-1-0 the Pairwise Comparison would be 2-2 but the tiebreaker is RPI so UNO would win (hypothetically of course).

The biggest issue I've had with PWR is that there is no possible way to "flip" an RPI comparison loss without a head to head win. This is why last year was such a great schedule for MTU and why I am always advocating they participate in more tournaments. The easiest way to overcome MTU's "bad" conference is to play as many single games against NC opponents and win them, giving you a chance to flip comparisons despite a deficiency in RPI.

If you go 1-0 against a bunch of teams you at least have a chance to flip enough comparisons to get yourself top 16.
 
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