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2017 Women's World Championships
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Yes indeed!! Women's Worlds Game day! USA vs Finland and Canada still looking for 1st win against Russia!!
Yes indeed!! Women's Worlds Game day! USA vs Finland and Canada still looking for 1st win against Russia!!
Think of it as a between periods discussion while we're waiting for the puck to drop again.
Minnesota doesn't send any teams at any level if you exclude Shattuck. They chose not to send any of their Minn Elite teams. Last year they went only because Nationals were in Minn. Not sure if that is the height of arrogance or wise money management. I lean towards the former as the National championships are the National championships despite all the issues.
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CJ's Brewery right in USA Arena. Will probably be busy.
http://www.usahockeyarena.com/page/show/1942623-cj-s-brewery-beers
They also have a full bar.
CJ's Brewery right in USA Arena. Will probably be busy.
http://www.usahockeyarena.com/page/show/1942623-cj-s-brewery-beers
They also have a full bar.
Good comment all the way through but I cut it for brevity
I also love the assumption that because the NHL "makes money" the mens team deserves money but the women don't. Lets ignore how stupid that statement is and discuss NHL finances. Does ANY team publish their books? I have not seen them. When numbers have been discussed they (at least the US based teams) all run in the red. Despite being low paying for pro sports (just read this am of a mediocre catcher signing $60 over 3years) NHL teams lose money. Does that mean men deserve no support too?
The teams are owned by billionaires to provide ego enrichment and tax losses. So, every US taxpayer is already underwriting the mens team.
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10 teams in 2019? Cannon fodder???
http://m.worldwomen2017.com/en/news/new-ww-format-proposed/
10 teams in 2019? Cannon fodder???
http://m.worldwomen2017.com/en/news/new-ww-format-proposed/
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It would be make for more interesting matchups if they REDUCED the number of teams to perhaps four:
Team USA
Team Canada
Team Nordic
Team ROW (Rest of World; i.e. Swiss, Czechs, Russia, Japan, Italy, Jamaica, etc.)
Wouldn't that only increase the number of lopsided games? Team Jamaica anyone?
It would be make for more interesting matchups if they REDUCED the number of teams to perhaps four:
Team USA
Team Canada
Team Nordic
Team ROW (Rest of World; i.e. Swiss, Czechs, Russia, Japan, Italy, Jamaica, etc.)
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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According to Wikitravels and other sites, Finland is part of Scandanavia. Scandanavia = Nordic......Wow my life has boiled down to debating northern European countries and an having an enlarged liver. That UW loss sure didn't do much to make that any smaller by the way. Try and find a hardware store open on a Sunday in St. Louis in a nice neighborhood....
According to Wikitravels and other sites, Finland is part of Scandanavia. Scandanavia = Nordic......Wow my life has boiled down to debating northern European countries and an having an enlarged liver. That UW loss sure didn't do much to make that any smaller by the way. Try and find a hardware store open on a Sunday in St. Louis in a nice neighborhood....
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MN is sending a U14 team to nationals this year. The District 6 Lakers.. Grace Zumwinkel's younger sister is on team. They are not listed on Myhockey Rankings but they are on U14 Nationals schedule. Not sure if the team has the top talent of the age or just a group that was up for attending.
MN is sending a U14 team to nationals this year. The District 6 Lakers.. Grace Zumwinkel's younger sister is on team. They are not listed on Myhockey Rankings but they are on U14 Nationals schedule. Not sure if the team has the top talent of the age or just a group that was up for attending.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
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From Webster:
Definition of Scandinavia
1. peninsula in northern Europe occupied by Norway and Sweden
2. Denmark, Norway, and Sweden
Note: Some people also consider Iceland, the Faeroe Islands, and Finland to be part of Scandinavia.
From Webster:
Definition of Scandinavia
1. peninsula in northern Europe occupied by Norway and Sweden
2. Denmark, Norway, and Sweden
Note: Some people also consider Iceland, the Faeroe Islands, and Finland to be part of Scandinavia.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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This is nothing new. It's been that way for a few years now.
This is nothing new. It's been that way for a few years now.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
We don't need another iteration of the World Cup.....I like the idea of nationalistic pride being at steak, and people from that nation having something to root for that they can relate to. I meant who felt really really compelled to root for team North America in the recent World Cup ?
Wouldn't that only increase the number of lopsided games? Team Jamaica anyone?
It would be make for more interesting matchups if they REDUCED the number of teams to perhaps four:
Team USA
Team Canada
Team Nordic
Team ROW (Rest of World; i.e. Swiss, Czechs, Russia, Japan, Italy, Jamaica, etc.)
We don't need another iteration of the World Cup.....I like the idea of nationalistic pride being at steak, and people from that nation having something to root for that they can relate to. I meant who felt really really compelled to root for team North America in the recent World Cup ?
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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I suspect there are two ways for Canada to get into the Medal Round:
- Option 1: Canada Beats Russia in Regulation and USA beats Finland in Regulation. Result: Three way tie for 2nd between Finland/Russia/Canada. Canada could win the tie breaker ?. The record between tied teams is equal, 1 win and 1 loss each. I do not know the deal the next tie breaker, but likely a form of goal differential or plus minus either overall of just in games between the tied teams.
- Option 2: Canada finishes 3th or 4th (either via above tie breaker, or on points). They can then win their quarter final to advance to the semi. If they finish in the 4 slot they would end up vs the USA in the Semi.
Long story short, it could be in the best interest of the USA team to NOT win outright over Finland. That would ensure Canada ends in the 3 spot if they beat Russia, so that the USA avoids a USA-Canada match-up in the semi. They will now for sure by the time they play and the CAN-RUS matchup is in the afternoon.
I suspect there are two ways for Canada to get into the Medal Round:
- Option 1: Canada Beats Russia in Regulation and USA beats Finland in Regulation. Result: Three way tie for 2nd between Finland/Russia/Canada. Canada could win the tie breaker ?. The record between tied teams is equal, 1 win and 1 loss each. I do not know the deal the next tie breaker, but likely a form of goal differential or plus minus either overall of just in games between the tied teams.
- Option 2: Canada finishes 3th or 4th (either via above tie breaker, or on points). They can then win their quarter final to advance to the semi. If they finish in the 4 slot they would end up vs the USA in the Semi.
Long story short, it could be in the best interest of the USA team to NOT win outright over Finland. That would ensure Canada ends in the 3 spot if they beat Russia, so that the USA avoids a USA-Canada match-up in the semi. They will now for sure by the time they play and the CAN-RUS matchup is in the afternoon.
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OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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Me thinks the struggles compared to the USA started well before the 2014 Olympics. The reality is that since the dominant performance in Turin in 2006, Canada has only won two worlds championships, in 2007 and in 2012. The USA has won 6 of the last 7 worlds since 2007. What is "hiding" this domination is that Canada managed to win the two Olympic golds in during that time period. The win is 2010 was driven partly by a partisan home crowd, and the emergence of a certain MPP on the scene. The win in 2014, yes while build partly on character, was in my opinion a combination of some luck, a turn of events that changed the momentum late in the game and smart coaching by a veteran NHL caliber coach.
The US has in general been the more speedy team during the last 10 years. That is partly due to the focus on that element in the US development program. You actually see the same trend amongst the men, where the US seems to be blessed with speed, compared to their counterparts.
The other factor in the women's games is grass roots growth. Numbers are still growing in the USA, but the numbers have been virtually flat in Canada for quite some time now.
Not sure what the right answer is, but in recent years, all I see is the USA team speed being too much for the Canadians on many occasions.
And yes the tourney is not over yet, (Remember 2012 when Canada reversed a round robin trashing on the hands of the US to a 3-2 win in the Final in Burlington), but in general the trend has been a faster US team winning more often than not over Canada.
Me thinks the struggles compared to the USA started well before the 2014 Olympics. The reality is that since the dominant performance in Turin in 2006, Canada has only won two worlds championships, in 2007 and in 2012. The USA has won 6 of the last 7 worlds since 2007. What is "hiding" this domination is that Canada managed to win the two Olympic golds in during that time period. The win is 2010 was driven partly by a partisan home crowd, and the emergence of a certain MPP on the scene. The win in 2014, yes while build partly on character, was in my opinion a combination of some luck, a turn of events that changed the momentum late in the game and smart coaching by a veteran NHL caliber coach.
The US has in general been the more speedy team during the last 10 years. That is partly due to the focus on that element in the US development program. You actually see the same trend amongst the men, where the US seems to be blessed with speed, compared to their counterparts.
The other factor in the women's games is grass roots growth. Numbers are still growing in the USA, but the numbers have been virtually flat in Canada for quite some time now.
Not sure what the right answer is, but in recent years, all I see is the USA team speed being too much for the Canadians on many occasions.
And yes the tourney is not over yet, (Remember 2012 when Canada reversed a round robin trashing on the hands of the US to a 3-2 win in the Final in Burlington), but in general the trend has been a faster US team winning more often than not over Canada.
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Canada scores 3 goals in a little more than 2 minutes in the 1st period to grab a 3-0 lead.
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Now 4-0 Canada at the end of one. Scoring summaries here:
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/T...ld-Championship/Stats/game-summary?gameid=227
Now 4-0 Canada at the end of one. Scoring summaries here:
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/T...ld-Championship/Stats/game-summary?gameid=227