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2017 Women's D-III NCAA Selection Thread

Re: 2017 Women's D-III NCAA Selection Thread

Current numbers would favor Endicott over Lake Forest for the 2nd Pool C, after Elmira. How many heads would explode in the Midwest if that is how things turned out?
 
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
Current numbers would favor Endicott over Lake Forest for the 2nd Pool C, after Elmira. How many heads would explode in the Midwest if that is how things turned out?
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I wouldn't. I felt Lake Forest needed to win one of the games last weekend to have a chance. I'd enjoy it more from the end of watching the NESCACians lose their ****.

I was wondering about if Eau Claire beat River Falls. I'd assume River Falls still gets the Pool B, but does that put Eau Claire in the mix?
 
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
Current numbers would favor Endicott over Lake Forest for the 2nd Pool C, after Elmira. How many heads would explode in the Midwest if that is how things turned out?
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Somehow their SOS is slightly higher, I imagine as they proceed through their conference playoffs their SOS will decrease enough to put LFC ahead of them in that category.
 
Re: 2017 Women's D-III NCAA Selection Thread

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
Current numbers would favor Endicott over Lake Forest for the 2nd Pool C, after Elmira. How many heads would explode in the Midwest if that is how things turned out?
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Instead of me claiming that Endicott and LF don't even deserve to be in this conversation, could someone please tell me why they should be? I'm having a really hard time figuring it out. Is it that Endicott tied Wesleyan? Or that LF beat who? Who is the best team LF beat?
 
Call It said:
Instead of me claiming that Endicott and LF don't even deserve to be in this conversation, could someone please tell me why they should be? I'm having a really hard time figuring it out. Is it that Endicott tied Wesleyan? Or that LF beat who? Who is the best team LF beat?
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Who should replace them? I mean Conn lost to Wesleyan. So I don't know what your argument is.
 
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Call It said:
Instead of me claiming that Endicott and LF don't even deserve to be in this conversation, could someone please tell me why they should be? I'm having a really hard time figuring it out. Is it that Endicott tied Wesleyan? Or that LF beat who? Who is the best team LF beat?
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Sadly, I don't think it's who LF has beaten. I think it's who they haven't lost to. Of their 4 losses, 3 are at the hands of Adrian and their first loss was during opening weekend. As Gojackets said, they've beaten everyone they should where other teams have not.
 
gojackets said:
Who should replace them? I mean Conn lost to Wesleyan. So I don't know what your argument is.
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I don't have as much of a problem with LF as I do with Endicott. LF is one of the better teams in the West so if they qualify so be it. Endicott is clearly not one of the better teams in the East in spite of their overall record. Their schedule is mighty weak! I guess you could argue they beat Trinity and Bowdoin in non-conference play so that shows how good they are, except those 2 teams ended up 4th and 5th in the NESCAC, which means there are a LOT of Eastern teams better than Endicott that have "worse" overall records.
 
Call It said:
Instead of me claiming that Endicott and LF don't even deserve to be in this conversation, could someone please tell me why they should be? I'm having a really hard time figuring it out. Is it that Endicott tied Wesleyan? Or that LF beat who? Who is the best team LF beat?
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I really don't get it. You keep arguing that Endicott isn't as good and hasn't played "good teams". But Conn has a worse record against those teams.

Williams Smith: Conn 1-0-1. End. 1-0
Wesleyan: Conn 1-1, End 0-0-1
Colby: Conn 2-0, End 1-0
Castleton Conn 0-0-1 (1-1 tie) End 1-0 (7-3 win)
Middlebury. Conn 1-1, End 0-1
Trinity Conn 1-1. Endicott 1-0
Bowdoin Conn 0-1-1. Endicott 1-0 (5-1 win)

Conn is 6-4-3 against those teams, Endicott is 5-1-1
 
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Believe me...I'm as surprised as anyone that Endicott is where they are. But when you start looking at the "data" it isn't as surprising.

Yes Conn has a big SOS advantage even though I don't know why. They haven't played anyone tough outside their conferences 4/9 Nescac teams have losing records and the best team has a 70% win record.

Endicott win: 89.1%. SOS .466. R vs R 0-1, COP 5-1-1 (Conn) 4-2-1 (Hamilton
Conn College: win 70.5%, SOS .526 R vs R 1-1, COP 6-4-3
Hamilton Win 67.4%, SOS .517. R vs R 2-1-1, COP 6-4-2

So in the criteria they are 2-2 against both NESCAC teams since there is no head to head. Endicott wins bigly in win% and common opponents, the Nescac a win bigly in SOS ad maybe the sample size is too small for the results vs ranked. Basically it comes down to the games against Middlebury. So the committee could be saying "hey, Endicott has a better common opponent record, so put them ahead.

I think all 3 teams are pretty close...I think you could make a better case for Hamilton being ahead of Endicott, but Endicott looks more favorable against Conn and with the head to head Conn is definitely over Hamilton...so it's that whole 3-way thing. Obviously if the Nescac teams don't beat Middlebury...they'll lose again and if Endicott wins their conference they'll be ahead. I personally feel that Lake Forest is a better team than Endicott..but you know that already.
 
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gojackets said:
Believe me...I'm as surprised as anyone that Endicott is where they are. But when you start looking at the "data" it isn't as surprising.

Yes Conn has a big SOS advantage even though I don't know why. They haven't played anyone tough outside their conferences 4/9 Nescac teams have losing records and the best team has a 70% win record.

Endicott win: 89.1%. SOS .466. R vs R 0-1, COP 5-1-1 (Conn) 4-2-1 (Hamilton
Conn College: win 70.5%, SOS .526 R vs R 1-1, COP 6-4-3
Hamilton Win 67.4%, SOS .517. R vs R 2-1-1, COP 6-4-2

So in the criteria they are 2-2 against both NESCAC teams since there is no head to head. Endicott wins bigly in win% and common opponents, the Nescac a win bigly in SOS ad maybe the sample size is too small for the results vs ranked. Basically it comes down to the games against Middlebury. So the committee could be saying "hey, Endicott has a better common opponent record, so put them ahead.
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Bigly is a Midwest word, right? Like pop instead of soda? :D
 
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Lake Forest lost, no one has anything to say? And it was a team that is ranked 23rd in Karch
 
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Lake Forest lost, no one has anything to say?
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Lol. Poor guy

And Hamilton lost to Bowdoin and Conn beat a team with a losing record. When are you gonna realize Krach means nothing?

I'm not sure you realize, as well, that the NCHA does a 2/3 first round and Lake Forest advanced to the championship game next weekend.

Technically the loss won't hurt them. They still have a better overall record, the game would have affected SOS regardless and CSS isn't a ranked team. I'm interested to see how the west rankings shake out. Gustavus should drop to 5 or 6. Could Eau Claire jump Lake Forest...
 
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I'm not sure you realize as well that the NCHA does a 2/3 first round and Lake Forest advanced to the championship game next weekend.
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I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to use the mini game format in playoff hockey anymore. Didn't they do away with that years ago on the men's side because it was such a stupid way of deciding the fates of two teams at the most critical time of the season?! It's much worse than a one game knockout because if the underdog gets lucky and scores the first goal of the mini game the higher ranked team has much less time to get a goal to tie it up compared to a full length game.

Plus I love how there's no notation at all of the mini game in the box score on collegehockeystats.net. Lol.
 
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