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2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

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cripes, Athens in 2004 didn't have nearly as much lining up to go wrong with the Games right before they happen.

You know it's bad when you make the Greeks look like they've got it under control.
 
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Of course, we hear this every Olympiad. Athens was a wreck, Beijing a mess, and Sochi was completely unfinished—until the Opening Ceremony kicked off, when suddenly whatever needed to be done, was done.

Well, Sochi really was unfinished and whatever needed to be done wasn't suddenly done. That's why people got locked in the bathroom and entire blocks were curtains and cardboard.

But yeah, the games in Rio are going to be a complete disaster if they are allowed to continue there. Sanitation isn't going to magically solve itself in the next six weeks.
 
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Well, Sochi really was unfinished and whatever needed to be done wasn't suddenly done. That's why people got locked in the bathroom and entire blocks were curtains and cardboard.

But yeah, the games in Rio are going to be a complete disaster if they are allowed to continue there. Sanitation isn't going to magically solve itself in the next six weeks.

The issues with Athens and Sochi are going to look like child's play, based on the reports thus far.

At least the Russkies, with their military and experience with Chechnya, could be counted on for security (the aggression of said security is open for debate, but whatever they did, it seems to have worked). How is Brazil planning to prevent terrorism?
 
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The best thing that could happen is if it is a complete disaster. Maybe a few disasters will get the IOC to figure out that the system is broken. But, probably not, their heads are too far up their asses.
 
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The best thing that could happen is if it is a complete disaster. Maybe a few disasters will get the IOC to figure out that the system is broken. But, probably not, their heads are too far up their asses.

Au contraire. Their wallets are too fat.
 
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Au contraire. Their wallets are too fat.

Yeah, but what happens if an all out shibbyshow happens at Rio and all of a sudden nobody is exactly throwing out bribes to host the games in a hole in the ground? The games getting passed between USA/Canada, Western Europe, and a few of the brighter outposts of Asia might not be such a bad idea for a while.
 
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Yeah, but what happens if an all out shibbyshow happens at Rio and all of a sudden nobody is exactly throwing out bribes to host the games in a hole in the ground? The games getting passed between USA/Canada, Western Europe, and a few of the brighter outposts of Asia might not be such a bad idea for a while.

Any sane city wouldn't want the games, they're an economic nightmare.
 
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Any sane city wouldn't want the games, they're an economic nightmare.

Cities don't want the games. IOC officials bribe city officials, who impoverish their taxpayers. The connected parties get rich on kickbacks, the middle class pays, and the poor lose their social services.

The grand alliance of business and government in the enrichment of the 1% at the expense of everyone else.

Neoliberalism. It's the future.
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

Cities don't want the games. IOC officials bribe city officials, who impoverish their taxpayers. The connected parties get rich on kickbacks, the middle class pays, and the poor lose their social services.

The grand alliance of business and government in the enrichment of the 1% at the expense of everyone else.

Neoliberalism. It's the future.

Future? In this country, I'd say it's the present.
 
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Any sane city wouldn't want the games, they're an economic nightmare.

It seems a bit weird to me that they have all the competitions in the same place. We do live in the 21st century now. Distribute swimming to one part of the world, wrestling and weightlifting to another, track and field to a third, etc. Yeah, there's no procession and there's a problem of where to put the torch (actually, the latter is not a problem: have the sports move in progression and have the torch move along with them). or do the same idea, but in one big country: have different cities host different sports, based on the infrastructure they already have.

the Los Angeles Olympics of 1984 did not cost anything to run, net: they were so well-organized and used existing venues so well that they actually broke even.
(of course, that was before a lot of the more recent niche sports were added).
 
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!

It seems a bit weird to me that they have all the competitions in the same place. We do live in the 21st century now. Distribute swimming to one part of the world, wrestling and weightlifting to another, track and field to a third, etc. Yeah, there's no procession and there's a problem of where to put the torch (actually, the latter is not a problem: have the sports move in progression and have the torch move along with them). or do the same idea, but in one big country: have different cities host different sports, based on the infrastructure they already have.

the Los Angeles Olympics of 1984 did not cost anything to run, net: they were so well-organized and used existing venues so well that they actually broke even.
(of course, that was before a lot of the more recent niche sports were added).

If you distribute the games across a large nation, continent or even the world, they lose their big-event status and just become a series of small events and get as much attention as the annual world cup event of whichever sport nobody cares except for that every fourth year.

The IOC just has to come to grips with the idea, which will be in about 20 years, that they need to stop demanding so much of the bidding cities. It'll mean less in their pockets than they get currently, but at least their positions will still have a reason to exist because cities who could actually make them happen would actually have an interest in hosting them and the focus will return to the athletes, where it belongs.
 
...the Los Angeles Olympics of 1984 did not cost anything to run, net: they were so well-organized and used existing venues so well that they actually broke even.
(of course, that was before a lot of the more recent niche sports were added).

The LA games did not have to deal with the astronomical (but probably needed) security costs post 9/11.
 
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If you distribute the games across a large nation, continent or even the world, they lose their big-event status and just become a series of small events and get as much attention as the annual world cup event of whichever sport nobody cares except for that every fourth year.

The IOC just has to come to grips with the idea, which will be in about 20 years, that they need to stop demanding so much of the bidding cities. It'll mean less in their pockets than they get currently, but at least their positions will still have a reason to exist because cities who could actually make them happen would actually have an interest in hosting them and the focus will return to the athletes, where it belongs.

If the games were held in 5 cities in France, would anyone notice it's not "one big event?" Space it out evenly, have TV coverage just like there is now and nobody will know the difference. Even if it's in the US, have Denver and Salt Lake City co-host the winter olympics. You have more than enough current venues for everything, outside of adequate housing for athletes in Denver.
 
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