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2014 Women's D-1 National Tournament

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That's incredibly screwed up. 75 PER TEAM?! Ridiculous considering the average basketball roster is about 15. Adding the team staff, that's flights for about 50 hangers-on. Times 68. Complete waste of money.

As the post you responded to says, that figure of 75 includes the bands. That's most of your hangers on right there. A lot of dross shows up for squeakyball games but it comes almost entirely out of the school's athletic budget.
 
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This article was just in the Mpls paper: two local teams going to the D3 final four were not allowed to share a flight: http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/250900121.html

Not sure what this says about your contention about them being unwilling to pay for flights...

It was probably cheaper for the NCAA to have these teams fly separately on commercial flights than to charter a flight. It all comes down to $.
 
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As I recall, when both BU and BC made the Frozen Four in Erie, PA, they were all on the same plane/

Never share transportation with another team. One D's team once shared a snazzy motor coach with individual TV sets with another nearby college and their comment was "those girls from _____ were nice enough...just a bit rough around the edges." Ouch!
 
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The comment referred to the fact that the NCAA screws around with bracket integrity in women's hockey to avoid paying for some flights..not that they don't pay for any.

I actually did read the comment.

I don't follow D3 much (although I have been to D3 games in Ridder), so I don't know anything about their bracketology or if the NCAA committee driving D3 has the same directives the D1 committee has. However, this was a case where the NCAA eschewed a chance to avoid a flight. If avoiding flights is so important that they will "screw around with bracket integrity", why would they not take this opportunity? The schools seemed to think that it was a cost effective alternative. And maybe the D3 directives are different so it is a moot point. I just pointed out the article because it gave me food for thought. Sorry if I interjected facts into the wrong discussion.
 
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I actually did read the comment.

I don't follow D3 much (although I have been to D3 games in Ridder), so I don't know anything about their bracketology or if the NCAA committee driving D3 has the same directives the D1 committee has. However, this was a case where the NCAA eschewed a chance to avoid a flight. If avoiding flights is so important that they will "screw around with bracket integrity", why would they not take this opportunity? The schools seemed to think that it was a cost effective alternative. And maybe the D3 directives are different so it is a moot point. I just pointed out the article because it gave me food for thought. Sorry if I interjected facts into the wrong discussion.

Except that it doesn't actually avoid a flight of a team...it just does so using 1 less plane. You still have to pay for all the per person flight costs for 2 teams. Maybe it has something to do with the administrative headaches of different billings/cost allocations because it was a charter, or security issues or other logistical issues of getting the teams together or some such thing. My guess would be that in their mind the potential cost savings didn't warrant those other complications.
 
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History lesson... Minnesota and Minnesota-Duluth were on the same flight back from Boston after the 2000 AWCHA National Championship. Of course, that was pre-NCAA.
 
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History lesson... Minnesota and Minnesota-Duluth were on the same flight back from Boston after the 2000 AWCHA National Championship. Of course, that was pre-NCAA.

Despite the fact that there is competition, and maybe some dissension between teams because of the level of competition and drive to win, I know a lot (dare I say most of?) of these players from different teams have known each other for years, and indeed many are friends. I really think that "this here plane isn't big enough for both of us" isn't the way the players would see it.

Really - I saw Kacey Bellamy at the Hockey East finals. Know who she walked in with? Marie-Phillip Poulin. Why encourage people to differentiate themselves? Doesn't the world have enough of that already?
 
What To Do In Hamden

What To Do In Hamden

From the Wednesday Women tab:

By Brian Farrell • March 18, 2014

HAMDEN, Conn. — As a college hockey fan, the Frozen Four is obviously an extremely exciting time of year. The anticipation, the quality of the teams, the coverage — it’s all fantastic. What can sometimes get lost in the mix is the day off. The day off can be used in a number of ways.

This year’s women’s D-I Frozen Four is in Hamden, Conn., and is hosted by Quinnipiac. As a Quinnipiac University graduate, and an honorary Hamdenite for four years, here is how you should spend your Saturday, or really any free time you have in south central Connecticut. My only warning is that you bring an extra pair of pants that is one size too big, or put an extra knot in the belt, because there is some great food you’ll want to try.

5. Get in the car and head over to Frank Pepe Pizzeria on historic Wooster Street in New Haven. It’s only a 15-minute drive, but be prepared to wait in a line when you get there. It is one of the hottest pizza spots in the Northeast. May I suggest the “White Clam Pizza,” or just the classic cheese. I’m a simple man, what can I say?

4. Sidestreet Bar and Grille. It is the college town bar and grille. If you get there on a weekday, head over around 4 p.m. for happy hour. They’ll serve up reasonably priced drinks and crispy, sauce-covered buffalo wings. But if anyone asks, Eli’s on Whitney has a much better Happy Hour … we don’t want it to get too crowded at Sidestreet. Also, bring a sense of humor; you’ll understand when you read the menu.

3. Lounge on the Adirondack chairs and take in the view at the Rocky Top Student Center. The York Hill campus at Quinnipiac is just a few years old and the view and architecture at its Rocky Top Student Center is tremendous. After the amount of eating you’re bound to do, you’ll need a minute or two to digest.

2. Alright, now that you’ve rested up a bit, it’s time for another sandwich and a friendly challenge. There are two fantastic sandwich shops in town, but if you ask anyone there is really only one — it just depends who you are talking to. Everyone has a side, so pick yours. You are either with Ray and Mike’s or Corner Deli. If you are wondering, this author says there is a Ray and Mike’s “Irresistible” and then there is everything else.

1. Hike the Giant. The Sleeping Giant State Park houses some simple trails that give great views of Long Island Sound, along with a different view of New Haven and Quinnipiac’s Mount Carmel campus. If you are looking for a simple hike, just take the Tower Trail from the base parking lot. If you are looking for a view of the QU campus and a bit of a challenge, then take the blue trail. It’s not Mount Washington, but the view is very unique to Connecticut.

There you have it. Just like any college town, you’ll find great places to eat, a laid back atmosphere, and this weekend, some top-notch hockey. Enjoy your stay in Hamden, and if you are from New Jersey, go to the Quinnipiac Admissions office and ask for Al Carbone … He’ll let you in for free or he’ll just tell you how much he loves the town and how he’ll never leave. You might feel the same way after you try the food.



Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2014/03/18/what-to-do-in-hamden/#ixzz2wVXC7k6b
 
Re: 2014 Women's D-1 National Tournament

As the post you responded to says, that figure of 75 includes the bands. That's most of your hangers on right there. A lot of dross shows up for squeakyball games but it comes almost entirely out of the school's athletic budget.

Yes I can read. I consider band members as hangers-on. If the university/team wants to send a band, they should be paying for it themselves. Especially if they want to send a band of more than ~10, which is about the most players on any basketball team that actually see court time. Last time I checked, basketball was supposed to be a sport, not a music competition.
 
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Yes I can read. I consider band members as hangers-on. If the university/team wants to send a band, they should be paying for it themselves. Especially if they want to send a band of more than ~10, which is about the most players on any basketball team that actually see court time. Last time I checked, basketball was supposed to be a sport, not a music competition.
The reason they pay for the band is the band is a big part of the atmosphere, and the NCAA basketball tournament is a production. The television network features the bands and the cheerleaders heavily in its broadcast, because unlike hockey, basketball has a lot of dead time where nothing is happening. By the end of the game, timeouts are being called constantly and the network has run out of commercial spots (because they've already shown a zillion minutes of ads by then.)

IMO, its the right decision to have the "hangers on" there. The wrong decision is trying to save a few comparative pennies on women's hockey.
 
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...basketball has a lot of dead time where nothing is happening. By the end of the game, timeouts are being called constantly and the network has run out of commercial spots...

The joke is credited to Bill Walton, who said that when the doctors tell him he only has two minutes to live, he hopes he's watch a basketball game...because that two minutes might last a half-hour.
 
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