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2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
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Olympic ice? None of the ECAC teams will see the big sheet until Lake Placid.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Thanks !!!
Does anyone know if Bennett will make the trip? Is he allowed to sit in the stands? How connected can he be with the team if he is suspended?
Thanks !!!
Does anyone know if Bennett will make the trip? Is he allowed to sit in the stands? How connected can he be with the team if he is suspended?
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Given he is suspended without pay, I'd say he'd have about as good of a shot as you yelling down onto the bench.
Given he is suspended without pay, I'd say he'd have about as good of a shot as you yelling down onto the bench.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
I managed to get negative feedback in last 24 hours after posting nothing offensive, just a Union fan posting on a Union thread.
I managed to get negative feedback in last 24 hours after posting nothing offensive, just a Union fan posting on a Union thread.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
It is 3 or 4 losers. Their program is terrible, just like I said it would 3 years ago. In the end that is what kills them. Worst record in tourn over lst 7/8 years of all programs, only team not to make final 4, have not scored a goal in ncaa tourn in almost 30 years and they are led by a perpetual loser named Eddie Haskell. an avg assistant who has proved beyond debate that he is not a head coach and after RPI, will have to go back to making 60K a year as an ast, if lucky.
ECAC
Union 1st
RPI 8th(good for them)
Records
Union 10-2
RPI 4-5-3(again, very good for them)
NCAA Team Offense
Union 3rd in country
RPI 19th
NCAA Team Defense
Union 11th
RPI 34th
RPI is ahead in one natl category
Team Penalty Minutes(sounds like a discipline and lack of coach respect issue here)
RPI 3rd
Union 20th
USCHO Poll
Union 4th
RPI not listed and not one single vote
USA Today poll
exact same
Pairwise
Union 4th
RPI 29th
RPI
Union 4th
Rpi 30th
Kratch
Union 4th
RPI 29th
ECAC Tournament
Union 4 final 4 tournament appearances. plus champions as well as reg season champs and ncaa frozen 4. also knocked out BC last year
RPI 0
RPI 2 qtr final appearances, 1-4
RPI record in ecac tourn under Eddie, 7-15. 4 of last 5 years knocked out by a lower seeded team.
It is 3 or 4 losers. Their program is terrible, just like I said it would 3 years ago. In the end that is what kills them. Worst record in tourn over lst 7/8 years of all programs, only team not to make final 4, have not scored a goal in ncaa tourn in almost 30 years and they are led by a perpetual loser named Eddie Haskell. an avg assistant who has proved beyond debate that he is not a head coach and after RPI, will have to go back to making 60K a year as an ast, if lucky.
ECAC
Union 1st
RPI 8th(good for them)
Records
Union 10-2
RPI 4-5-3(again, very good for them)
NCAA Team Offense
Union 3rd in country
RPI 19th
NCAA Team Defense
Union 11th
RPI 34th
RPI is ahead in one natl category
Team Penalty Minutes(sounds like a discipline and lack of coach respect issue here)
RPI 3rd
Union 20th
USCHO Poll
Union 4th
RPI not listed and not one single vote
USA Today poll
exact same
Pairwise
Union 4th
RPI 29th
RPI
Union 4th
Rpi 30th
Kratch
Union 4th
RPI 29th
ECAC Tournament
Union 4 final 4 tournament appearances. plus champions as well as reg season champs and ncaa frozen 4. also knocked out BC last year
RPI 0
RPI 2 qtr final appearances, 1-4
RPI record in ecac tourn under Eddie, 7-15. 4 of last 5 years knocked out by a lower seeded team.
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
St. Lawrence Battle Plan (from the St. Lawrence Blog)
Men: Union Preview
This is one of the days on the schedule I've had circled for about a month. To start the year, SLU looked great, and even found their way into the top 20. Now, they sit at 8-13-3, and welcome to Appleton the number one team in the ECAC, and the number 4 team in the country in Union. The Dutchmen are 16-5-3, 10-2-0 in the ECAC, losing to Colgate, who swept SLU, and Quinnipiac, who the Saints have not yet played. They are led by one of the premier defensemen in NCAA hockey, a Philadelphia Flyers draft pick, junior Shayne Gostisbehere, who has 18 points in 24 games from the blue line this year. Daniel Carr leads Union with 24 points this year.
However mismatched the teams may be on paper, SLU might have gotten very lucky with the timing of this game. Following the game between Union and RPI on Saturday, the two rivals engaged in a bit of line brawl. The result is that Union will enter Appleton on Friday without the guidance of head coach Rick Bennett, who was suspended for two games. Union also loses D Mat Bodie, who has 23 points, Daniel Ciampini, who has 19 points, and Eli Lichtenwald, who has 15 points. For a team that struggles on defense, this could be just the break the Saints need to be able to compete with Union. The Dutchman attack will still be lead by some great players, such as Kevin Sullivan, Mike Pontarelli, and Carr, but the secondary scoring won't be there as much for Union.
They key for this game will be Greg Carvel. He is a smart coach, and he won't have to work against Rick Bennett. His job, as the coach of the home team, which gets last change, will be to do his best to keep the Carey line away from Gostisbehere, and instead try and get the Doherty line, a solid defensive one, out. This leaves the Carey line with a favorable matchup, and could just give SLU the offensive edge.
All that means nothing if SLU can't keep the puck out of their net. No SLU goalie has good numbers this year, but Matt Weninger is the more experienced guy, having played against almost all of Union's players twice last year. So, as much as I have been calling for Parks to get more starts, I would anticipate Weninger to be the starter, and I think thats the right call. It all hinges on the defense, especially the top pair of Baker and Sweetman, who will play big time minutes against the top line of Union. If the defense can slow down, not even stop, just slow down those big three of Sullivan, Pontarelli, and Carr, SLU might just pull off the upset of the year in ECAC thus far.
Puck drops at 7:00.
St. Lawrence Battle Plan (from the St. Lawrence Blog)
Men: Union Preview
This is one of the days on the schedule I've had circled for about a month. To start the year, SLU looked great, and even found their way into the top 20. Now, they sit at 8-13-3, and welcome to Appleton the number one team in the ECAC, and the number 4 team in the country in Union. The Dutchmen are 16-5-3, 10-2-0 in the ECAC, losing to Colgate, who swept SLU, and Quinnipiac, who the Saints have not yet played. They are led by one of the premier defensemen in NCAA hockey, a Philadelphia Flyers draft pick, junior Shayne Gostisbehere, who has 18 points in 24 games from the blue line this year. Daniel Carr leads Union with 24 points this year.
However mismatched the teams may be on paper, SLU might have gotten very lucky with the timing of this game. Following the game between Union and RPI on Saturday, the two rivals engaged in a bit of line brawl. The result is that Union will enter Appleton on Friday without the guidance of head coach Rick Bennett, who was suspended for two games. Union also loses D Mat Bodie, who has 23 points, Daniel Ciampini, who has 19 points, and Eli Lichtenwald, who has 15 points. For a team that struggles on defense, this could be just the break the Saints need to be able to compete with Union. The Dutchman attack will still be lead by some great players, such as Kevin Sullivan, Mike Pontarelli, and Carr, but the secondary scoring won't be there as much for Union.
They key for this game will be Greg Carvel. He is a smart coach, and he won't have to work against Rick Bennett. His job, as the coach of the home team, which gets last change, will be to do his best to keep the Carey line away from Gostisbehere, and instead try and get the Doherty line, a solid defensive one, out. This leaves the Carey line with a favorable matchup, and could just give SLU the offensive edge.
All that means nothing if SLU can't keep the puck out of their net. No SLU goalie has good numbers this year, but Matt Weninger is the more experienced guy, having played against almost all of Union's players twice last year. So, as much as I have been calling for Parks to get more starts, I would anticipate Weninger to be the starter, and I think thats the right call. It all hinges on the defense, especially the top pair of Baker and Sweetman, who will play big time minutes against the top line of Union. If the defense can slow down, not even stop, just slow down those big three of Sullivan, Pontarelli, and Carr, SLU might just pull off the upset of the year in ECAC thus far.
Puck drops at 7:00.
ibanezist00
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Best of luck to the Dutchmen for the rest of the season! Let's make the Capital District trip the most feared ECAC trip in the schedule in the future.
Best of luck to the Dutchmen for the rest of the season! Let's make the Capital District trip the most feared ECAC trip in the schedule in the future.
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UnionFan4Life
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
How does our lineup work Friday night? I'm guessing:
Carr---Roy---Wilkins
Hatch---Vecchione---Pontarelli
Sullivan---Novak---Cruice
Ikkala---Bennett---Coatta
Ghost---Taylor
Vasaturo---Krug
Gingras---Henry
Thank God for depth!
We're still a very solid team.
No mention of Hatch, Vech, Wilkins, or Ikkala? That's fine.
How does our lineup work Friday night? I'm guessing:
Carr---Roy---Wilkins
Hatch---Vecchione---Pontarelli
Sullivan---Novak---Cruice
Ikkala---Bennett---Coatta
Ghost---Taylor
Vasaturo---Krug
Gingras---Henry
Thank God for depth!
We're still a very solid team.Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Looks awfully good to me !!!!!
No mention of Hatch, Vech, Wilkins, or Ikkala? That's fine.
How does our lineup work Friday night? I'm guessing:
Carr---Roy---Wilkins
Hatch---Vecchione---Pontarelli
Sullivan---Novak---Cruice
Ikkala---Bennett---Coatta
Ghost---Taylor
Vasaturo---Krug
Gingras---Henry
Thank God for depth!
Looks awfully good to me !!!!!
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
The 3M line (Hatch, Vecchione, Pontarelli) will be the key. They had a number of good shifts last weekend, so I'd expect to see the Doherty line on them, which could open things up for Carr & Wilkins. I'm not sure if Carvel will want to worry about Doherty's line against Ghost & Taylor, but I still think Union will be able to overcome the absences. SLU starting Weininger is the right call for them - a more experienced goalie, despite his less-than-stellar play this year.
A friend of mine made a good point this week - what I'm most concerned about is how Joe Dumais will handle the in-game situations. Being able to get the line matchups right is a very underrated part of the game. I'm sure Bennett & Dumais have been over this all week long, so I have no doubt Dumais will be as prepared as anyone can be. It's just the in-game prep that is the unknown.
No mention of Hatch, Vech, Wilkins, or Ikkala? That's fine.
How does our lineup work Friday night? I'm guessing:
Carr---Roy---Wilkins
Hatch---Vecchione---Pontarelli
Sullivan---Novak---Cruice
Ikkala---Bennett---Coatta
Ghost---Taylor
Vasaturo---Krug
Gingras---Henry
Thank God for depth!
The 3M line (Hatch, Vecchione, Pontarelli) will be the key. They had a number of good shifts last weekend, so I'd expect to see the Doherty line on them, which could open things up for Carr & Wilkins. I'm not sure if Carvel will want to worry about Doherty's line against Ghost & Taylor, but I still think Union will be able to overcome the absences. SLU starting Weininger is the right call for them - a more experienced goalie, despite his less-than-stellar play this year.
A friend of mine made a good point this week - what I'm most concerned about is how Joe Dumais will handle the in-game situations. Being able to get the line matchups right is a very underrated part of the game. I'm sure Bennett & Dumais have been over this all week long, so I have no doubt Dumais will be as prepared as anyone can be. It's just the in-game prep that is the unknown.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Plenty to be concerned about in a game which we would under normal circumstances been heavily favored to win. Looking at a lineup with 3 freshman d men, perhaps worries me the most, though I think Taylor has shown enough to not really be a freshman in many regards. The big intangibles obviously are how the team will fare without it's head coach and whether the emotional roller coaster of the past five days will take a toll.
Plenty to be concerned about in a game which we would under normal circumstances been heavily favored to win. Looking at a lineup with 3 freshman d men, perhaps worries me the most, though I think Taylor has shown enough to not really be a freshman in many regards. The big intangibles obviously are how the team will fare without it's head coach and whether the emotional roller coaster of the past five days will take a toll.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
I agree with Wholin that SLU's offensive talent (e.g. the Careys) and U having 3 freshmen on D is my biggest concern. Matching lines will be mostly out of Dumais' control, since SLU will have the last line change as the home team. The biggest matchup problem is U's D vs. the Careys with Bodie being out. Typically would want either Bodie or Ghost out there against them, but now there will be 2 D-pairs that will be a good matchup for SLU. If SLUs coaches are smart (which I think they are), at some point they will be able to put out the Careys just after a Ghost-Taylor shift ends and either get the matchup they want or have Ghost going back out when he is tired. This is a dilemma that Bennett would have had a hard time dealing with too. In the end, U just has to play their game and roll their lines as best they can and hope the young D-men don't make too many big mistakes that Stevens can't bail out.
I agree with Wholin that SLU's offensive talent (e.g. the Careys) and U having 3 freshmen on D is my biggest concern. Matching lines will be mostly out of Dumais' control, since SLU will have the last line change as the home team. The biggest matchup problem is U's D vs. the Careys with Bodie being out. Typically would want either Bodie or Ghost out there against them, but now there will be 2 D-pairs that will be a good matchup for SLU. If SLUs coaches are smart (which I think they are), at some point they will be able to put out the Careys just after a Ghost-Taylor shift ends and either get the matchup they want or have Ghost going back out when he is tired. This is a dilemma that Bennett would have had a hard time dealing with too. In the end, U just has to play their game and roll their lines as best they can and hope the young D-men don't make too many big mistakes that Stevens can't bail out.
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
I saw the St. Lawrence game against Vermont which was probably St. Lawrence's worse home game. They lost 5-1 to Vermont if memory serves me correctly. Vermont kept St. Lawrence away from the puck. Vermont beat St. Lawrence to the lose puck every time and if hockey stats recorded time of possession, I bet Vermont had the puck in their control most of the last period. St. Lawrence is an offensive machine with great skill and you need to slow it down and take the puck away and not give it back. St. Lawrence just keeps scoring. My fear is that we will end up with a "run and gun" and get destroyed by the Carey brothers. Also, remember that these folks lead college hockey in PP %. We have got to stay out of the box. Stevens will need help. We need to block shots, get to the open puck and play aggressive.
On Saturday their coach came out on the ice to go to war for them. I think tonight, you may see the team come out on the ice, to go to war for him.
I saw the St. Lawrence game against Vermont which was probably St. Lawrence's worse home game. They lost 5-1 to Vermont if memory serves me correctly. Vermont kept St. Lawrence away from the puck. Vermont beat St. Lawrence to the lose puck every time and if hockey stats recorded time of possession, I bet Vermont had the puck in their control most of the last period. St. Lawrence is an offensive machine with great skill and you need to slow it down and take the puck away and not give it back. St. Lawrence just keeps scoring. My fear is that we will end up with a "run and gun" and get destroyed by the Carey brothers. Also, remember that these folks lead college hockey in PP %. We have got to stay out of the box. Stevens will need help. We need to block shots, get to the open puck and play aggressive.
On Saturday their coach came out on the ice to go to war for them. I think tonight, you may see the team come out on the ice, to go to war for him.
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
Our own FORUM.
Would anyone be interested in working with me to come up with our own Forum? I have been investigating software and it looks very doable. The format would be identical to what we have here on USCHO. It would be full functional and we would have control. I have been looking at what other schools do. Clarkson has its own Forum. Cornell does as well but its not very user friendly. North Dakota does but its not friendly to non-text things. I could set up a prototype to try out.
Here is the Clarkson site
http://www.letsgotech.com/roundtable/forum.php
I want to see if there is any interest in the Dutchmen Community.
Our own FORUM.
Would anyone be interested in working with me to come up with our own Forum? I have been investigating software and it looks very doable. The format would be identical to what we have here on USCHO. It would be full functional and we would have control. I have been looking at what other schools do. Clarkson has its own Forum. Cornell does as well but its not very user friendly. North Dakota does but its not friendly to non-text things. I could set up a prototype to try out.
Here is the Clarkson site
http://www.letsgotech.com/roundtable/forum.php
I want to see if there is any interest in the Dutchmen Community.
UnionFan4Life
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I would join an exclusive Dutchman forum. Then we could have separate threads such as incoming recruits, game day threads, etc. etc. It's a great idea. Could we even have a sub-link off of the Union Athletics website?
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Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
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Can you control who has member access to the site? (..and I'm not just thinking RPIers
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Same question, and I am thinking exactly the opposite, at least so far as the haters are concerned.Can you control who has member access to the site? (..and I'm not just thinking RPIers
Re: 2013-2014 Union Dutchmen - Can U Three Peat? (Part II)
The administrator would approve someone who is signing up ..... could be anyone. If you do not have an account, you can read posts but cannot comment. Same as USCHO.
Can you control who has member access to the site? (..and I'm not just thinking RPIers
The administrator would approve someone who is signing up ..... could be anyone. If you do not have an account, you can read posts but cannot comment. Same as USCHO.
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