Re: 2012 regionals awarded
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2012 regionals awarded
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thecomicbookguy
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Sorry, I, and the NCAA, would like to see arenas a little more full than that.
Sorry, I, and the NCAA, would like to see arenas a little more full than that.
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Its not the NCAA's responsability to build a fanbase that will travel more than 2 hours away for a regional.
Sorry, I, and the NCAA, would like to see arenas a little more full than that.
Its not the NCAA's responsability to build a fanbase that will travel more than 2 hours away for a regional.
thecomicbookguy
Nobody.
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Maybe not, but it is their responsibility to have regionals in places that people actually want to visit.
(Also, I think it kind of is their responsibility, at least in part. D-I hockey is one of their products. They should take some responsibility for selling it.)
Its not the NCAA's responsability to build a fanbase that will travel more than 2 hours away for a regional.
Maybe not, but it is their responsibility to have regionals in places that people actually want to visit.
(Also, I think it kind of is their responsibility, at least in part. D-I hockey is one of their products. They should take some responsibility for selling it.)
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The NCAA only organizes the event, the schools are the ones that need to sell it.
And get the breeches!!! 
The NCAA only organizes the event, the schools are the ones that need to sell it.
And get the breeches!!!
thecomicbookguy
Nobody.
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I was referring to the sport in general - if the NCAA sold it better throughout the season (think college bball), they wouldn't have as many attendance concerns in the postseason. I will concede this point in regards to the actual regionals. I stand by my main point in that post, though.
I was referring to the sport in general - if the NCAA sold it better throughout the season (think college bball), they wouldn't have as many attendance concerns in the postseason. I will concede this point in regards to the actual regionals. I stand by my main point in that post, though.
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The NCAA could get people to show up in Bismark, North Dakota and Vladivostok, Russia if they had arena's big enough to make it worth their while to go there for College Hoops. They're getting guarantees from the host committees anyways. That's from the schools themselves building themselves up as brands to go watch. Duke is Duke because they built themselves to be team to watch, along with most of their conference.
The NCAA could get people to show up in Bismark, North Dakota and Vladivostok, Russia if they had arena's big enough to make it worth their while to go there for College Hoops. They're getting guarantees from the host committees anyways. That's from the schools themselves building themselves up as brands to go watch. Duke is Duke because they built themselves to be team to watch, along with most of their conference.
thecomicbookguy
Nobody.
TigerFan86-87
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OK, quick rough summary (this could be off by a team or two either way):
Teams within 8 hr drive from Rochester, NY:
All of AHA except Air Force - (11 of 12 teams)
All of ECAC (12 of 12 teams)
All of HEA except Maine (9 of 10 teams)
Almost Half of CCHA - UM, MSU, BGSU, OSU, Miami (5 of 11 teams)
None of Independents (0 of 1 team)
None of WCHA (0 of 12 teams)
37 of 58 teams - 63.7%
Yes, it is a useless statistic. But it's interesting at the least. And there is likely nowhere else in the country (except probably Buffalo) where one can get to as many D-I hockey schools for a reasonable long weekend trip type of drive.
Yes, none of those teams are any sort of reasonable drive from Rochester. UNO is the the closest at around 15 or 16 hours.
OK, quick rough summary (this could be off by a team or two either way):
Teams within 8 hr drive from Rochester, NY:
All of AHA except Air Force - (11 of 12 teams)
All of ECAC (12 of 12 teams)
All of HEA except Maine (9 of 10 teams)
Almost Half of CCHA - UM, MSU, BGSU, OSU, Miami (5 of 11 teams)
None of Independents (0 of 1 team)
None of WCHA (0 of 12 teams)
37 of 58 teams - 63.7%
Yes, it is a useless statistic. But it's interesting at the least. And there is likely nowhere else in the country (except probably Buffalo) where one can get to as many D-I hockey schools for a reasonable long weekend trip type of drive.
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Addressing some of the points on here that I've read:
1) For a span of three straight years (until the future Mrs. Dailey appeared on the scene) I drove regularly from roughly Worcester-ish to Rochester for 7pm RIT contests, leaving roughly around noon. For the life of me, I can not recall a single trip where traffic on the Mass Pike was bad -- and that includes some good-heaping snows around Syracuse and Utica. So I don't completely buy the "Mass Pike traffic is bad, stay away" story.
2) I did do the Amherst-to-Worcester trek during the 2005 Regionals -- it wasn't that horrible (although I did leave at the second intermission of the second game to do it). It was about 60 miles, but I made it with plenty of time to spare.
3) If there were any straight, minimum 55 mph roads in New England, maybe the locals wouldn't have such a complex over a 94 mile trip. I don't understand the distance fear (but then again, I didn't grow up in New England).
4) I thought the boundary for most Boston-ians before wilderness hits was I-495.
5) I'd rather go to Providence over Bridgeport for a regional.
6) There is no #6.
Addressing some of the points on here that I've read:
1) For a span of three straight years (until the future Mrs. Dailey appeared on the scene) I drove regularly from roughly Worcester-ish to Rochester for 7pm RIT contests, leaving roughly around noon. For the life of me, I can not recall a single trip where traffic on the Mass Pike was bad -- and that includes some good-heaping snows around Syracuse and Utica. So I don't completely buy the "Mass Pike traffic is bad, stay away" story.
2) I did do the Amherst-to-Worcester trek during the 2005 Regionals -- it wasn't that horrible (although I did leave at the second intermission of the second game to do it). It was about 60 miles, but I made it with plenty of time to spare.
3) If there were any straight, minimum 55 mph roads in New England, maybe the locals wouldn't have such a complex over a 94 mile trip. I don't understand the distance fear (but then again, I didn't grow up in New England).
4) I thought the boundary for most Boston-ians before wilderness hits was I-495.
5) I'd rather go to Providence over Bridgeport for a regional.
6) There is no #6.
bigblue_dl
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I'm a little sad that this awesome arguement happened when I was away from my computer.
I too am intrigued by the short distances the New Englanders think is too far to travel. Hell, shirtless guy, MEg and I travelled more than 100 miles to get a goddamm Finnish flag before a game once.
I'm a little sad that this awesome arguement happened when I was away from my computer.
I too am intrigued by the short distances the New Englanders think is too far to travel. Hell, shirtless guy, MEg and I travelled more than 100 miles to get a goddamm Finnish flag before a game once.
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Federal League
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1) That's because the worst of the traffic is from Boston to Worcester, not Worcester on.
3) It's not so much the distance as it is the fact that there are just better places to have it that are closer to civilization.
4) You thought correctly.
5) Rather go to Providence or Bridgeport over what? Amherst? Yes. I'd rather go to Worcester or Manchester than Bridgeport, though. Kind of a moot debate, though, since Bridgeport's the East Regional anyway.
1) That's because the worst of the traffic is from Boston to Worcester, not Worcester on.
3) It's not so much the distance as it is the fact that there are just better places to have it that are closer to civilization.
4) You thought correctly.
5) Rather go to Providence or Bridgeport over what? Amherst? Yes. I'd rather go to Worcester or Manchester than Bridgeport, though. Kind of a moot debate, though, since Bridgeport's the East Regional anyway.
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1) True (the toll booths don't help that situation). Actually, I'd amend the point where congestion tends to drop to be Sturbridge, since the 10-ish miles between I-290 and I-84 tends to be nothing but lane jockeying on most Fridays...
3) That was more a general observation. Of course, when colonization starts 150 years before things like townships and street grids were thought of, straight roads aren't possible without some significant form of homewrecking (like why I-290 doesn't go all the way to 128).
5) Bridgeport's arena is surrounded by... parking lots and the road to the ferry terminal, last time I looked (of course, it was Sunday night after getting off the ferry). At least in Providence / Manchester / Worcester, there are restaurants and bars around the arena.
Amherst was a nice place to try the regional, but Amherst itself is a ways off any major highway if you come from northeastern New England.
1) True (the toll booths don't help that situation). Actually, I'd amend the point where congestion tends to drop to be Sturbridge, since the 10-ish miles between I-290 and I-84 tends to be nothing but lane jockeying on most Fridays...
3) That was more a general observation. Of course, when colonization starts 150 years before things like townships and street grids were thought of, straight roads aren't possible without some significant form of homewrecking (like why I-290 doesn't go all the way to 128).
5) Bridgeport's arena is surrounded by... parking lots and the road to the ferry terminal, last time I looked (of course, it was Sunday night after getting off the ferry). At least in Providence / Manchester / Worcester, there are restaurants and bars around the arena.
Amherst was a nice place to try the regional, but Amherst itself is a ways off any major highway if you come from northeastern New England.
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Extends to the I-84 exit on Friday and Sunday evenings.
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YES. I've been stuck in many a 10+ mile backup from exit 10 to exit 9 that took a solid 2 hours to go that 10 mile stretch because of the backup from the toll booth and all the Boston to NYC travellers. But once you get past Exit 9, there's really no traffic. So saying you commuted from Worcester to Rochester and saw no traffic isn't really saying much, especially since you left at noon, and last I checked, the afternoon rush is called the AFTERnoon rush for a reason.
YES. I've been stuck in many a 10+ mile backup from exit 10 to exit 9 that took a solid 2 hours to go that 10 mile stretch because of the backup from the toll booth and all the Boston to NYC travellers. But once you get past Exit 9, there's really no traffic. So saying you commuted from Worcester to Rochester and saw no traffic isn't really saying much, especially since you left at noon, and last I checked, the afternoon rush is called the AFTERnoon rush for a reason.
TigerFan86-87
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If he left precisely at noon, then all but ONE MINUTE of his (5+ hour) drive was AFTER NOON.
If he left precisely at noon, then all but ONE MINUTE of his (5+ hour) drive was AFTER NOON.
umassfan49
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I don't mind the DCU, especially since they are going through stages of renovations, but feel this event could have a bigger drawing if it was closer to Boston. The Xcel Energy center has hosted regionals as well as the FF (even upcoming this year). Does anybody feel the garden would be appropriate for regionals?
Also I feel an issue is the seating capacity as not many arenas in the Boston-area have a large amount of seats. When it was at UMass in 05 it failed miserably although 8400 seats because of western mass, way out there.
I don't mind the DCU, especially since they are going through stages of renovations, but feel this event could have a bigger drawing if it was closer to Boston. The Xcel Energy center has hosted regionals as well as the FF (even upcoming this year). Does anybody feel the garden would be appropriate for regionals?
Also I feel an issue is the seating capacity as not many arenas in the Boston-area have a large amount of seats. When it was at UMass in 05 it failed miserably although 8400 seats because of western mass, way out there.
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
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The Garden isn't necessary. Close to Boston you have Worcester and Manchester with nice sized arenas for the regional... able to hold about as much as you could ask for from a regional (see 2001 with BC and Maine in the same regional and it was basically sold out after walk ups) and I would assume they are cheaper to rent than the Garden. Even if it was moved into Boston, there is a point where attendance won't increase because of the prices being too high for the regionals. While it surely would be better attended than one in Amherst because of the closer proximity to the majority of schools as we've seen with Worcester and Manchester (plus being a superior weekend destination for the fan base of teams that make the regional... at least eastern folks care about this).
The Garden isn't necessary. Close to Boston you have Worcester and Manchester with nice sized arenas for the regional... able to hold about as much as you could ask for from a regional (see 2001 with BC and Maine in the same regional and it was basically sold out after walk ups) and I would assume they are cheaper to rent than the Garden. Even if it was moved into Boston, there is a point where attendance won't increase because of the prices being too high for the regionals. While it surely would be better attended than one in Amherst because of the closer proximity to the majority of schools as we've seen with Worcester and Manchester (plus being a superior weekend destination for the fan base of teams that make the regional... at least eastern folks care about this).