Jon
Say, this is nice.
Yet another reason I like hockey; someone would have grabbed Pollard and pummeled him if only to give him five minutes without injuring someone.
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2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Or at least, he should've. I guess if it were hockey, Brady would've been rightfully pummeled for that. But instead it's football, and the referees are just glad that no one touched their precious little boy.
While we're on the subject of how other sports would've treated that game, I'm pretty sure Brady would've gotten a red card for bringing his cleats up like this on his latest sissy slide:
Or at least, he should've. I guess if it were hockey, Brady would've been rightfully pummeled for that. But instead it's football, and the referees are just glad that no one touched their precious little boy.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
A what? Don't you mean he'd get beamed the next time he got to the plate?
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Latest sissy slide? That's the first one I've ever seen from him. Other than that his slides are no different than any other QB. That said, it was a ***** move. And of course, you can always count on a harbaugh being right on top of it.
And you can't hit any qb, not just brady.
Latest sissy slide? That's the first one I've ever seen from him. Other than that his slides are no different than any other QB. That said, it was a ***** move. And of course, you can always count on a harbaugh being right on top of it.
And you can't hit any qb, not just brady.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
The real reason I hate seeing star QBs get injured[SUP]1[/SUP] is that inevitably the league[SUP]2[/SUP] will decide that they need to change the rules to further protect the quarterbacks and tell the referees to throw even more 15 yard penalties on people who breathe on them. It's amazing how much the league will change the game whenever something bad happens to one of their Golden Boys[SUP]3[/SUP].
[SUP]1[/SUP] Again, not just Brady, although he is clearly the poster child for this kind of thing.
[SUP]2[/SUP] A league which is evidently run by people who really, really Mike Greenberg. They seem to adopt his approach of "Something bad happened to a quarterback... how do we fix this? How can we fix the NFL so this doesn't happen again?"
[SUP]3[/SUP] Again, not just Brady, but man oh man is the Tuck Rule the prime example of this or isn't it?
Okay, I should probably tone it down a bit. But in my defense, my comment came from also remembering (and seeing on NBCSN's The Lights) Brady scramble and then go out of his way to hide behind a referee that was trying to get out of the way.
True.
The real reason I hate seeing star QBs get injured[SUP]1[/SUP] is that inevitably the league[SUP]2[/SUP] will decide that they need to change the rules to further protect the quarterbacks and tell the referees to throw even more 15 yard penalties on people who breathe on them. It's amazing how much the league will change the game whenever something bad happens to one of their Golden Boys[SUP]3[/SUP].
[SUP]1[/SUP] Again, not just Brady, although he is clearly the poster child for this kind of thing.
[SUP]2[/SUP] A league which is evidently run by people who really, really Mike Greenberg. They seem to adopt his approach of "Something bad happened to a quarterback... how do we fix this? How can we fix the NFL so this doesn't happen again?"
[SUP]3[/SUP] Again, not just Brady, but man oh man is the Tuck Rule the prime example of this or isn't it?
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Are you trolling or is this an honest question?
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
The tuck rule may be an example of a lot of things...but how does it pertain to protecting Tom Brady? It was a rule before that play and it was, according to the rule, called properly. It isn't designed to protect QB's, it is designed to determine what is a fumble and what is an incomplete pass in the situation where there was a throwing motion. At the time it was a revelation to most of us; don't know I had ever seen it called before. But, there has to be some criteria to determine when it is a fumble or a pass. At what point during the throwing motion (especially with fakes, pulling it down due to rushers, getting hit while throwing etc.) does it go from incomplete pass to fumble?
They could have said, every time the QB moves his arm forward and the ball doesn't come out like a forward pass it is a fumble...so no more spiking the ball to stop the clock and a lot more frequency of people declaring there needs to be a change to the rule.
The tuck rule may be an example of a lot of things...but how does it pertain to protecting Tom Brady? It was a rule before that play and it was, according to the rule, called properly. It isn't designed to protect QB's, it is designed to determine what is a fumble and what is an incomplete pass in the situation where there was a throwing motion. At the time it was a revelation to most of us; don't know I had ever seen it called before. But, there has to be some criteria to determine when it is a fumble or a pass. At what point during the throwing motion (especially with fakes, pulling it down due to rushers, getting hit while throwing etc.) does it go from incomplete pass to fumble?
They could have said, every time the QB moves his arm forward and the ball doesn't come out like a forward pass it is a fumble...so no more spiking the ball to stop the clock and a lot more frequency of people declaring there needs to be a change to the rule.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Your and JD's point that it was a pre-existing rule at the time (and was even used at that time to reverse the fumble call) is well taken, but I would still argue that the emphasis and enforcement of that rule hasn't been the same since.
Not protecting in this case, but changing the game when something bad happens to a star quarterback ("Brady/Manning/Rodgers/whomever didn't fumble... it was an incomplete pass!").
Your and JD's point that it was a pre-existing rule at the time (and was even used at that time to reverse the fumble call) is well taken, but I would still argue that the emphasis and enforcement of that rule hasn't been the same since.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
I don't know what a red card is. The first comparison I thought of was a runner breaking up a double play with his cleats up, which is something that will get you a fastball betweeen your shoulder blades.
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
fair enough, I think it is one of those rules that mean so much more to the person depending on which side of the call they were on. Like the Calvin Johnson call. Or the Music City Miracle...although they may have actually misjudged that one.
A lot of times people get mad at the call, such as the hit to Copernicus's helmet yesterday. But if they start asking ref's to interpret intention on the fly, it is going to get worse, not better. So the rule is "don't hit the guy in the head". Period. I assure you, if hitting a QB in the helmet made your dick fall off, we'd see fewer guys 'accidentally' hitting them or contending they couldn't avoid it. These guys have reflexes such that they can pull up on a hit or avoid hitting their own guy with a millisecond of time to think...they can hit the ball perfectly while carried by a guy running and trying to avoid them but can't avoid the other guy's helmet?
So, yeah there would still be those flags, but a fraction of them. And without the tuck rule there would be somebody complaining that the pump fake in the rain was an incomplete pass, not a fumble.
As a Pat's fan I know Brady gets protected, just like Manning, Brees and now Copernicus...because nobody wants to see Ryan Mallet versus Tyrod Taylor for the AFC championship.
fair enough, I think it is one of those rules that mean so much more to the person depending on which side of the call they were on. Like the Calvin Johnson call. Or the Music City Miracle...although they may have actually misjudged that one.
A lot of times people get mad at the call, such as the hit to Copernicus's helmet yesterday. But if they start asking ref's to interpret intention on the fly, it is going to get worse, not better. So the rule is "don't hit the guy in the head". Period. I assure you, if hitting a QB in the helmet made your dick fall off, we'd see fewer guys 'accidentally' hitting them or contending they couldn't avoid it. These guys have reflexes such that they can pull up on a hit or avoid hitting their own guy with a millisecond of time to think...they can hit the ball perfectly while carried by a guy running and trying to avoid them but can't avoid the other guy's helmet?
So, yeah there would still be those flags, but a fraction of them. And without the tuck rule there would be somebody complaining that the pump fake in the rain was an incomplete pass, not a fumble.
As a Pat's fan I know Brady gets protected, just like Manning, Brees and now Copernicus...because nobody wants to see Ryan Mallet versus Tyrod Taylor for the AFC championship.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
I referenced it because doing what Brady did in a soccer game is an automatic red card. Why? Well... be careful about questions that you might not want to know the answer to...
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A red card is used in soccer, and a few related sports (rugby, Aussie rules football, etc). In short, it's an ejection.
I referenced it because doing what Brady did in a soccer game is an automatic red card. Why? Well... be careful about questions that you might not want to know the answer to...
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Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
So after all of the grief that Suh got for his rolling backkick nutshot on Schaub, Brady ought to get a little visit and fine from the commissioner as well about that. Can't have QB's out there injuring the defense and making them mad.While we're on the subject of how other sports would've treated that game, I'm pretty sure Brady would've gotten a red card for bringing his cleats up like this on his latest sissy slide:
Or at least, he should've. I guess if it were hockey, Brady would've been rightfully pummeled for that. But instead it's football, and the referees are just glad that no one touched their precious little boy.
Jon
Say, this is nice.
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Brady should be fined for that play and saving his crappiest game of the year for the AFC Championship game. Not happy with him today.
BTW, did anyone else think a lot of the personal foul calls against the Ravens last night were BS?
While we're on the subject of how other sports would've treated that game, I'm pretty sure Brady would've gotten a red card for bringing his cleats up like this on his latest sissy slide:
Or at least, he should've. I guess if it were hockey, Brady would've been rightfully pummeled for that. But instead it's football, and the referees are just glad that no one touched their precious little boy.
Brady should be fined for that play and saving his crappiest game of the year for the AFC Championship game. Not happy with him today.
BTW, did anyone else think a lot of the personal foul calls against the Ravens last night were BS?
JF_Gophers
2147483647
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Super Baugh.
Prolly wont watch tho. NFL is pretty boring these days.
Super Baugh.
Prolly wont watch tho. NFL is pretty boring these days.
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
But.....but.....
BEYONCE!!!!
And commercials!!! I can do other things when the actual game is on.
But.....but.....
BEYONCE!!!!
And commercials!!! I can do other things when the actual game is on.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
Bow-chicka-wow-wowI can do other things when the actual game is on.
Jon
Say, this is nice.
Chickens@NU
A Mini Rooster and a Mini Hen
Re: 2012 NFL Season: 15 Yard Penalty For Playing Football (c)
You have the right idea but your example is the suck. Brady was a fill in for Bledsoe at the time and wasn't a star. Now, a better example would be all the changes to how a receiver is covered after the Pats manhandled the colts year in and year out. Manning biotched and got his way.
You have the right idea but your example is the suck. Brady was a fill in for Bledsoe at the time and wasn't a star. Now, a better example would be all the changes to how a receiver is covered after the Pats manhandled the colts year in and year out. Manning biotched and got his way.