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2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
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ManBehindTheCurtain
Great and powerful wizard
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Saint Cloud at Wisconsin
Saint Lawrence at Cornell
Harvard at Boston U
Ohio State at Northeastern
Is Northeastern eligible for an all-Red bracket?
Is it black with red highlights or is red a primary color for them?
Don't know, I live in Minnesota. Someone from the eastern time zone will have to decide. If Northeastern not eligible there is still Colgate although the match-ups would have to be redone.
One more, and for those of you who consider yourself crimson or cardinal or something and do not wish to be associated with something as mundane as RED, my apologies. But here is the all-Red bracket, again seeded according to current standing in the Rutter ranking
Saint Cloud at Wisconsin
Saint Lawrence at Cornell
Harvard at Boston U
Ohio State at Northeastern
Is Northeastern eligible for an all-Red bracket?
Is it black with red highlights or is red a primary color for them?
Don't know, I live in Minnesota. Someone from the eastern time zone will have to decide. If Northeastern not eligible there is still Colgate although the match-ups would have to be redone.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Penn St...Lindenwood...a program or two on the verge...expanded tournament?
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
All they need to do is win HE and they are in. The way things are shaping up it looks like four spots from the west, Mercyhurst and then three spots from the East, two of them being Autobids. IMHO It is more likely that Cornell wins the ECAC than BC winning HE.
This means that teams like Harvard and Dartmouth have to hope for BC win in HE for them to get consideration for an at large bid.
However, if both BC and Cornell lose out in their league playoffs, that would mean doom for the fourth team from the WCHA. So still lots of variables to consider.
The way Clarkson and SLU have been playing of late, cannot forget about them yet.
All they need to do is win HE and they are in. The way things are shaping up it looks like four spots from the west, Mercyhurst and then three spots from the East, two of them being Autobids. IMHO It is more likely that Cornell wins the ECAC than BC winning HE.
This means that teams like Harvard and Dartmouth have to hope for BC win in HE for them to get consideration for an at large bid.
However, if both BC and Cornell lose out in their league playoffs, that would mean doom for the fourth team from the WCHA. So still lots of variables to consider.
The way Clarkson and SLU have been playing of late, cannot forget about them yet.
OnMAA
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
More like an extra Autobid, reducing the chances of four teams from the WCHA to make it to the show. There is also a lot of rumours about RIT finally going D1 next year.
More like an extra Autobid, reducing the chances of four teams from the WCHA to make it to the show. There is also a lot of rumours about RIT finally going D1 next year.
OnMAA
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Aren't Harvard and Colgate more Crimson ?. Not sure if they fit the "Red" category. If you add them in, teams like BC and Union would also have to be considered. I'd say RPI is more Red than Harvard or Colgate.
Aren't Harvard and Colgate more Crimson ?. Not sure if they fit the "Red" category. If you add them in, teams like BC and Union would also have to be considered. I'd say RPI is more Red than Harvard or Colgate.
OnMAA
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Two at large bids from HE very unlikely given the current state of affairs.
Two at large bids from HE very unlikely given the current state of affairs.
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ARM
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Not sure about that. If the season ended today, it would be three ECAC, one HEA, one CHA, and three WCHA. Most of the series between the top four in the WCHA have already occurred, each has one remaining, so if they do well against the bottom half of the league, then it could be as you say. I still expect that we will see more than one Hockey East team in the field.
ManBehindTheCurtain
Great and powerful wizard
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Colgate on the other hand calls themselves the RED Raiders.
Cannot see how the Eagles fit into any RED scenario. BU? OK, but I have them in my red bracket, definitely NOT BC.
RPI is a good call, Union even if red isn't going to qualify for this elite field.
I believe Wisconsin is technically cardinal, not red, but they certainly seem happy to go with the "Go Big Red" chant.
Ohio State is also a judgment call as they officially call the colors scarlet and grey.
Harvard calls themselves the Crimson, I thought I made allowances for that in my original post. It looks like red to me, if you want to call it something else and thereby exclude yourself from this bracket, OK by me. I am just trying to have fun.
Colgate on the other hand calls themselves the RED Raiders.
Cannot see how the Eagles fit into any RED scenario. BU? OK, but I have them in my red bracket, definitely NOT BC.
RPI is a good call, Union even if red isn't going to qualify for this elite field.
I believe Wisconsin is technically cardinal, not red, but they certainly seem happy to go with the "Go Big Red" chant.
Ohio State is also a judgment call as they officially call the colors scarlet and grey.
northhockey
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Quick thought: if the top 4 WCHA teams do not make it into the tourney, i will be deeply disappointed. I respect the teams out east, but they sometimes don't respect the strength of the WCHA..
Quick thought: if the top 4 WCHA teams do not make it into the tourney, i will be deeply disappointed. I respect the teams out east, but they sometimes don't respect the strength of the WCHA..
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Well if there is an upset champion in BOTH the ECAC and HE for the autobids, there is a good chance that there will only be three teams out of the WCHA making it into the tourney. While the odds of that happening are small, it can happen.
Well if there is an upset champion in BOTH the ECAC and HE for the autobids, there is a good chance that there will only be three teams out of the WCHA making it into the tourney. While the odds of that happening are small, it can happen.
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
From what I see in Hockey East, and obviously, I see a lot, there are a number of scenarios in which the regular season champ (BC, for the sake of argument) isn't the Tourney (auto-bid) winner. The way teams in this division play against each other, it is not out of the realm of possibilities that any play off team (Top 6 finishers) wins 3 games against 3 different league opponents.
Maine has certainly made a statement, and seem to be escalating at an opportune time,
Providence is a strong, fast team backed by an experienced upperclass, solid first and second year players, and a tender who is more than capable of an upset or two.
BU has all the right ingredients even if Poulin is out for the duration, and if they conquer their demons, can play themselves in.
Northeastern has proven to be a team well worthy of consideration even if the PWR doesn't support that. Last night was a stalemate on the score sheet and on the ice with BC, and the Huskies had, IMHO, more just missed chances to nail that game than BC did.
I don't think my alma mater is ready to play into March just yet, but that doesn't preclude them from upsetting the expectations of others if they continue to develop and goaltending stays as solid as it has been this week.
Vermont is in the same category as UNH at this point, and finishing the series against the bottom half with success will either make or break another young group.
UConn may well be out of the discussion, but with a 3 way tie for the last play off spot, they control at least some of their destiny.
I'm not predicting a year in which HE wrests the hardware from the firm grip of the West, but whichever team or teams move on to the NCAA's dance will be far better prepared than they have been in the past, and may well make that at large bid a little more elusive.
From what I see in Hockey East, and obviously, I see a lot, there are a number of scenarios in which the regular season champ (BC, for the sake of argument) isn't the Tourney (auto-bid) winner. The way teams in this division play against each other, it is not out of the realm of possibilities that any play off team (Top 6 finishers) wins 3 games against 3 different league opponents.
Maine has certainly made a statement, and seem to be escalating at an opportune time,
Providence is a strong, fast team backed by an experienced upperclass, solid first and second year players, and a tender who is more than capable of an upset or two.
BU has all the right ingredients even if Poulin is out for the duration, and if they conquer their demons, can play themselves in.
Northeastern has proven to be a team well worthy of consideration even if the PWR doesn't support that. Last night was a stalemate on the score sheet and on the ice with BC, and the Huskies had, IMHO, more just missed chances to nail that game than BC did.
I don't think my alma mater is ready to play into March just yet, but that doesn't preclude them from upsetting the expectations of others if they continue to develop and goaltending stays as solid as it has been this week.
Vermont is in the same category as UNH at this point, and finishing the series against the bottom half with success will either make or break another young group.
UConn may well be out of the discussion, but with a 3 way tie for the last play off spot, they control at least some of their destiny.
I'm not predicting a year in which HE wrests the hardware from the firm grip of the West, but whichever team or teams move on to the NCAA's dance will be far better prepared than they have been in the past, and may well make that at large bid a little more elusive.
5 4 Fighting
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
In the hockey retail world Harvard's particular color is referred to as "Harvard Red" when ordering team pants, gloves, helmets, socks and sweaters from CCM, Reebok, Bauer, Easton etc.. It is unique and used by many minor league type teams.
In the hockey retail world Harvard's particular color is referred to as "Harvard Red" when ordering team pants, gloves, helmets, socks and sweaters from CCM, Reebok, Bauer, Easton etc.. It is unique and used by many minor league type teams.
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brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Possibly as few as two?
Have to give consideration to the appearance of a precarious element for a couple of those WCHA teams. One a little more precarious than the other.
Possibly as few as two?
northhockey
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Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
could you re-phrase that for my less intelligent mind, please?
could you re-phrase that for my less intelligent mind, please?
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/
Also, some of those teams in the east presently battling for positioning in the top eight seem to be playing well. I'm not accounting for the completely possible conference tournament "surprises" though.
Please check your rep for more specific thoughts.
Just looking at and going by the current PWR rankings:could you re-phrase that for my less intelligent mind, please?
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/
Also, some of those teams in the east presently battling for positioning in the top eight seem to be playing well. I'm not accounting for the completely possible conference tournament "surprises" though.
Please check your rep for more specific thoughts.
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northhockey
New member
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
It was interesting to check the "Strength of Schedule" http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/
Sure looks good for WCHA
It was interesting to check the "Strength of Schedule" http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/
Sure looks good for WCHA
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Division I Bracketology
Yes, some comparatively weak SOS for teams outside the WCHA yet 6 thru 10 in PWR.